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Iran president: 'Not feasible' for Israel to live

And all of them were the choice of the SL.



If they change their constitution and get rid of the SL and the Guardian Council good for them.

SL?

No, those people nominated themselves.. Some were excluded by the Guardian council yes. But in the first round of election there was 8 major candidates that were reduced to 2 by the peoples vote, and then eventually one by another round of voting.
 
Supreme Leader. I'm getting tired of typing it.

No, those people nominated themselves..
They nominated themselves to be interviewed by the Guardian Council and SL.

Some were excluded by the Guardian council yes. But in the first round of election there was 8 major candidates that were reduced to 2 by the peoples vote, and then eventually one by another round of voting.

8 candidates who all have the same views is not any different than 2 candidates who have the same views. Not democratic.
 
I never claimed it was alike the US system. I claimed that Iran is a form of democracy, and it is. It is comparable to European and American democracy in many ways. In the excluding process its highly comparable to European democracy, and if you guys are right about Americans party not having any say in who runs for their party, then its unlike in America.
But the system is very comparable to American and European democracy in general, but yes, more restrictive in general also.

Name one way besides voting that Iran is a democracy.
 
The people are relatively free..

Of the top of my head :

1) The government filters their news, media, and internet

2) They execute homosexuals.... errrrrr "we don't have homosexuals in Iran."

3) I bet there quite a few restrictions when it comes to freedom of speech, expression, and religion.
 
Of the top of my head :

1) The government filters their news, media, and internet

2) They execute homosexuals.... errrrrr "we don't have homosexuals in Iran."

3) I bet there quite a few restrictions when it comes to freedom of speech, expression, and religion.

1) Many democracies have some sort of filtering.

2) Honestly, good riddance.. I also believe in harsh punishment for adulterers.

3) Yes.. There are such restrictions in the west also.. One example that pops out of the top of my head is that its illegal to deny the holocaust. There are plenty of others as well that apply to different western countries..

1-2-3)
But yes, Iran is less free than the west, but are relatively free.
 
2) Honestly, good riddance.. I also believe in harsh punishment for adulterers.

So homosexuals and adulterers should be executed... Thanks for clearing that up. I seriously wonder how some people on this forum actually function in daily life.
 
1) Many democracies have some sort of filtering.

2) Honestly, good riddance.. I also believe in harsh punishment for adulterers.

3) Yes.. There are such restrictions in the west also.. One example that pops out of the top of my head is that its illegal to deny the holocaust. There are plenty of others as well that apply to different western countries..

1-2-3)
But yes, Iran is less free than the west, but are relatively free.

Wow. Goodbye Max, I'm done debating with you. That's just sad.
 
What with the execution of raped women and the dropping walls on homosexuals, yes relatively free :roll:

I especially like the part where the punish adulterers.. But I think the punishment is too harsh.. I wish there was prison time for adultery in the west.. I also believe homosexuality should be illegal.. Dropping walls? What is that? What do you mean? I believe its immoral for the west to allow sex change, its really a thing that should never exist, and I appreciate Irans stand on such issues, and find it absurd that the west allows it.

The thing with raped women is absurd, but hey, we have plenty of absurd punishment and legal procedures in the west also.. IN general I think punishments in Iran are too harsh, but I think their moral stands are superior to the ones in the west, to be honest. Except I believe in freedom for women, but not "equality" as they claim in the west, which is really just a bunch of unfair advantages they get for being women. I think we should compete on equal terms with men.
 
So homosexuals and adulterers should be executed... Thanks for clearing that up. I seriously wonder how some people on this forum actually function in daily life.

No.. I think homosexuality should be illegal. And I think adultery should be punished with prison time comparable with terms for fraud and stealing.

I do not support the death penalty with exception for extreme cases, and even in such I am not sure I support death penalty at all.
 
I especially like the part where the punish adulterers.. But I think the punishment is too harsh.. I wish there was prison time for adultery in the west.. I also believe homosexuality should be illegal..

Why? It is a relationship between to consenting individuals. No one is getting hurt, no rights being infringed upon.

I believe its immoral for the west to allow sex change, its really a thing that should never exist, and I appreciate Irans stand on such issues, and find it absurd that the west allows it.

See above.
 
Why? It is a relationship between to consenting individuals. No one is getting hurt, no rights being infringed upon.

Well.. I believe there should be a punishment if the people are married and one of them cheats on the other part of the marriage..

If you think no one is getting hurt when adultery is taking place then you are certainly wrong.. The party getting cheated on gets hurt and the moral and integrity of the cheater also is hurt.

I am also relatively against divorce. I think marriage is something to be honored and not taken lightly. And I do not support divorce like it is practiced now, where people divorce over small disagreements and one time fights.
I only support divorce in extreme cases and in a long term difficult process.

See above.

Why in the world SHOULD people be allowed sex changes?
 
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Well.. I believe there should be a punishment if the people are married and one of them cheats on the other part of the marriage..

I am also relatively against divorce. I think marriage is something to be honored and not taken lightly. And I do not support divorce like it is practiced now, where people divorce over small disagreements and one time fights.
I only support divorce in extreme cases and in a long term difficult process.

I was talking about homosexuality being illegal.

Why in the world SHOULD people be allowed sex changes?

Because it is their body and you have no right to tell me or anyone else what I can and cannot do with it. Whose rights are infringed upon if I have my genitalia removed?
 
I was talking about homosexuality being illegal.

Homosexuality is just wrong. Its unproductive and dirty, and plainly naturally wrong and incorrect.

Because it is their body and you have no right to tell me or anyone else what I can and cannot do with it. Whose rights are infringed upon if I have my genitalia removed?

No, there is nothing natural or even slightly okay about changing sex and removing the genitalias. Why in the world is there a need for changing ones sex? Why in the world is this insane procedure practiced? Freedom should have limitations when it cross over into insanity.
You can do with your own body as you please, and I am pretty sure that you cannot change sex by yourself.
 
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Homosexuality is just wrong. Its unproductive and dirty, and plainly naturally wrong and incorrect.

So it should be illegal, but all you have is an emotional and bigoted argument why. Noted.

No, there is nothing natural or even slightly okay about changing sex and removing the genitalias. Why in the world is there a need for changing ones sex? Why in the world is this insane procedure practiced? Freedom should have limitations when it cross over into insanity.

Again, the person is making a conscious decision to do what they think is right. Some people think tattoos are gross and unnatural, should they be illegal as well?
 
So it should be illegal, but all you have is an emotional and bigoted argument why. Noted.



Again, the person is making a conscious decision to do what they think is right. Some people think tattoos are gross and unnatural, should they be illegal as well?
:eek:t The Iranian president?
 
So it should be illegal, but all you have is an emotional and bigoted argument why. Noted.

Thats not bigot. Its true. Its not natural at all.

Again, the person is making a conscious decision to do what they think is right. Some people think tattoos are gross and unnatural, should they be illegal as well?

So naturally since you support sex change you HAVE to support euthanasia as well, else its hypocrisy.
 
Thats not bigot. Its true. Its not natural at all.

So anything "not natural" should be illegal? That would make sports, make up, cars, houses, domesticated pets and jobs all illegal. :roll:

So naturally since you support sex change you HAVE to support euthanasia as well, else its hypocrisy.

I do support euthanasia, though I fail to see it's relevance to what we are discussing.
 
So anything "not natural" should be illegal? That would make sports, make up, cars, houses, domesticated pets and jobs all illegal. :roll:

Well, then we should allow pedophila then and all other sexual deviations since homosexuality in your mind should be allowed.. Why discriminate? Sex with animals, sex with corpses, pedofile marriage and so on should all be allowed then.. Its all the same as homosexuality in reality.

I do support euthanasia, though I fail to see it's relevance to what we are discussing.

At least then you are not a hypocrite.
 
Well, then we should allow pedophila then and all other sexual deviations since homosexuality in your mind should be allowed.. Why discriminate? Sex with animals, sex with corpses, pedofile marriage and so on should all be allowed then.. Its all the same as homosexuality in reality.

Beastality is not consent. Pedophilia is not okay because children cannot make rational decisions. Corpses also cannot consent. Done making ridiculous arguments now?
 
I dont care.. The fact is that people in Iran live relatively free lives.

Relative to whom? KSA? Perhaps. Not relative to the vast majority of countries in the world.

Freedom house is probably full of lobbyists anyways.

Of course, you live in a world where you expect everyone else to accept your baseless assumptions as fact - just like your claims about the role of party leadership in the nomination process. :rofl
 
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