• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Iran president: 'Not feasible' for Israel to live

Khayembii Communique said:
What about Steve Colbert?
Click to expand...

He didn't pay the entry fee.

Edit: He may not have gotten enough signatures either, or even attempted to. I'm sure if he'd tried he could have...at least I think so. But since it was a joke, 35K was probably a bit too far to go.
 
Last edited:
Maximus Zeebra said:
I have yet to see proof that anyone who pleases with ANY platform can run as primary candidate for the republican party, even if he hates them and oppose all their political stands, and that he can do all this without any form of approval from the republican party.
Click to expand...
Do you have any substantiated reason to believe otherwise?

Maximus Zeebra said:
Excuse me for finding that hard to believe, especially when you guys just claim it with no documentation.
Click to expand...
Excuse me for doubting your assertions/accusations that are based on nothing but your intuition.

Maximus Zeebra said:
I am ready to accept logical explanations as proof of other things, but not this, because its illogical it would work the way you say.
Click to expand...
and until then you will continue to make up answers that fit your bias??? :lol:
 
ludahai said:
It wasn't spin, it was FACT. Do you even know what "nominate" means? You have used the word INCORRECTLY numerous times, indicating you simply do not have a basic understanding of the nominating process in the US.
Click to expand...

Thats completely irrelevant and a sad attempt to shift the debate.
 
RightOfCenter said:
Yes. I doubt he would be re-elected though.



Yes, though his past voting history shows this to be very unlikely.
Click to expand...

Source.. I need some hard facts on this, because its too difficult to just take you guys words on it, as it seems so incredibly unlikely.
 
RightOfCenter said:
The approval from the party to run in the primary comes in the form of a requisite number of signatures from party members to run in that state's primary.


The process is a petition! They must go from house to house and convince party members that they are qualified to run and that they share similar ideals with the party. If they don't actually follow these ideals once elected they won't be re-elected. That is how it works.




You are not only maybe wrong, you are wrong. Read a text book on US Government if you want proof.
Click to expand...

Why cant any of you show me a document on the process of running under the democrat or the republican party as a primary candidate for president..? Thats what I really want.. I am starting to believe you guys even how unlikely it is that its true, but I would like to see some documents... If you can please find any.. Its interesting for me, because it would be totally different from how one become prime minister in European countries.
 
RightOfCenter said:
Explain to me why this system is illogical.
Click to expand...

Its illogical because anyone could run for the republican party with a democrats platform if he wanted, and just get elected through a bunch of lies in the primary round. Whips, there is 2 democrat presidential candidates running for two different parties.

Its also illogical because in Europe its way different. The person have to most likely get selected as politician in local elections first, under his party, then he have to have a career in the party which makes him a party senior, only then can he be nominated by the party itself to become their prime minister candidate in the next election, where no one is really voting for the prime minister, but the party, and get the prime minister as a result..

I hope you understand why it sounds illogical that anyone can become president under whatever party he pleases in the US.. That the party cannot exclude him in any ways if they knew his platform opposes that of the party.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Thats completely irrelevant and a sad attempt to shift the debate.
Click to expand...

Of course it is relevant. You are using the word nominate incorrectly. You are claiming that people can nominate themselves and that is now what is happening at all. You clearly know NOTHING about what you are talking about on this subject.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Its illogical because anyone could run for the republican party with a democrats platform if he wanted, and just get elected through a bunch of lies in the primary round. Whips, there is 2 democrat presidential candidates running for two different parties.
Click to expand...

That is what the PRIMARIES are for!

Its also illogical because in Europe its way different. The person have to most likely get selected as politician in local elections first, under his party, then he have to have a career in the party which makes him a party senior, only then can he be nominated by the party itself to become their prime minister candidate in the next election, where no one is really voting for the prime minister, but the party, and get the prime minister as a result..
Click to expand...

Oh, I get it. Europe does it one way so if anyone else does it another way it is by default illogical. All it shows is that the US is more democratic and open in its political system than Europe is.

I hope you understand why it sounds illogical that anyone can become president under whatever party he pleases in the US.. That the party cannot exclude him in any ways if they knew his platform opposes that of the party.
Click to expand...

The PARTY being the MEMBERS of the party exclude - that is what the primaries are for. It is NOT for the leadership of the party to decide, but the rank and file. So, it IS the parties who decide who runs in the general election THROUGH THE PRIMARY PROCESS! What about this can't you get through your thick Euro-Skull.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Why cant any of you show me a document on the process of running under the democrat or the republican party as a primary candidate for president..? Thats what I really want.. I am starting to believe you guys even how unlikely it is that its true, but I would like to see some documents... If you can please find any.. Its interesting for me, because it would be totally different from how one become prime minister in European countries.
Click to expand...

http://www.in.gov/sos/pdfs/CAN-8.pdf

First link on google. Petition to be placed on the Presidential Primary for the state of Indiana.
 
Last edited:
Maximus Zeebra said:
Its illogical because anyone could run for the republican party with a democrats platform if he wanted, and just get elected through a bunch of lies in the primary round. Whips, there is 2 democrat presidential candidates running for two different parties.

Its also illogical because in Europe its way different. The person have to most likely get selected as politician in local elections first, under his party, then he have to have a career in the party which makes him a party senior, only then can he be nominated by the party itself to become their prime minister candidate in the next election, where no one is really voting for the prime minister, but the party, and get the prime minister as a result..

I hope you understand why it sounds illogical that anyone can become president under whatever party he pleases in the US.. That the party cannot exclude him in any ways if they knew his platform opposes that of the party.
Click to expand...

I doubt a person who's political positions are so unknown could get enough support to even make it on the ballot.
 
What would happen if Obama said it isn't feasible for Iran to live?
 
No offence, but one would have to be rather gullible to believe they simply oppose a government.

I do not think you are gullible.
Click to expand...

You can think whatever you want all you want; but the fact is that Ahmedinejad was (once again) referring to the Israeli government and its foreign policy specifically with regards to its neighbors.

I do believe that a lot of government officials and religious higher-ups in Iran are anti-semitic, but I do not believe that Ahmedinejad himself wants to "wipe Israel off the map" as you would claim.

What would happen if Obama said it isn't feasible for Iran to live?
Click to expand...

It wouldn't surprise me in the least; presidents have done so in the past and they will in the future.
 
Last edited:
ludahai said:
That is what the PRIMARIES are for!



Oh, I get it. Europe does it one way so if anyone else does it another way it is by default illogical. All it shows is that the US is more democratic and open in its political system than Europe is.



The PARTY being the MEMBERS of the party exclude - that is what the primaries are for. It is NOT for the leadership of the party to decide, but the rank and file. So, it IS the parties who decide who runs in the general election THROUGH THE PRIMARY PROCESS! What about this can't you get through your thick Euro-Skull.
Click to expand...

I know about the fucing primary you goddamn r******* p***e of ****... I have told you all this a billion times, but its impossible to get anything though your narrow mind. You understand NOTHING of what I am talking about, and I have explained my views at least 10 times, just to spin a in a damn circle with you.. Enough... This is jujst over;; I am not up for continuing this with you.

DONT YOU ****ING GET IT??? I AM TALKING ABOUT BBBBBBEEEEEFFFFFOOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEEE THE PRIMARIES.. TO BE IN THE PRIMARIES....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Last edited:
RightOfCenter said:
http://www.in.gov/sos/pdfs/CAN-8.pdf

First link on google. Petition to be placed on the Presidential Primary for the state of Indiana.
Click to expand...

Thank you..

And you are also saying when this form is complete and such that if he runs for the republican party, that the republican party have no way of "disqualifying" him?

That makes parties in the US very different from parties in Europe in such a case.. Because parties in Europe is a grouping of people with similar interests, and only people who prove they are in line with the party(over a LOOOOONG period), ever becomes on of the top 100 people in that party and a potential minister candidate or prime minister candidate which requires even more years and dedication for that party.
 
RightOfCenter said:
I doubt a person who's political positions are so unknown could get enough support to even make it on the ballot.
Click to expand...

But he could pretend to be republican just to win the republican primaries...

In Europe that would be impossible, you have to spend decades in a party and prove your record to become even a minister candidate and several more decades to become prime minister candidate and party leader.
 
Moderator's Warning:
ludahai and Maximus, both of you stop the name calling at once.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I know about the fucing primary you goddamn r******* p***e of ****... I have told you all this a billion times, but its impossible to get anything though your narrow mind. You understand NOTHING of what I am talking about, and I have explained my views at least 10 times, just to spin a in a damn circle with you.. Enough... This is jujst over;; I am not up for continuing this with you.

DONT YOU ****ING GET IT??? I AM TALKING ABOUT BBBBBBEEEEEFFFFFOOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEEE THE PRIMARIES.. TO BE IN THE PRIMARIES....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Click to expand...

And I have repeatedly told you that any qualified voter can qualify to be on the primary ballot. The party heirarchy can NOT disqalify anyone. Can you come up with any examples of how a primary candidate has been disqualified and prohibited from running by the party leadership?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Thank you..

And you are also saying when this form is complete and such that if he runs for the republican party, that the republican party have no way of "disqualifying" him?
Click to expand...

THe party LEADERSHIP has no way of disqualifying him. It is the party members who make the decision. What part of this do you not understand?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom