What unintelligent tripe this is. You couldn't even figure out the argument, you saw religion in something, read a little something, and then made a knee jerk reactionary statement. How dare someone critique religion, right?
Let me educate you on the argument. It was said that it was good that these people had their children taken away because the name was a form of indoctrination and abuse. I merely changed the subject and kept the argument the same. If you're going to say that the State has legitimate purpose intervening in this case because a name constitutes indoctrination into something you don't agree with and thus is child abuse; you'd damned well be prepared for the consequences. The argument can be made of pretty much anything, and before you know it; you've authorized the government to act in well more than it should have been able to act in. This is the end result of the argument used to say the govenrment had right to intercede in this case only because of the name. This is the argument taken to its natural ends. It is not I whom seriously argues for removing a persons ability to raise their child in a religion of their choice. It is the people whom make the claim that the government can rightfully intercede here based only on the name who make that very argument.
Logic, it doesn't have to be your enemy.
Also, you never supported the final conclusion of your post. Why should libertarians whom use public school have their children taken away? What form of child abuse did they commit? Mine is quite clear how the indoctrination argument can be expanded; you didn't provide anything.
You argued and did not critique one religion but all, and said, “I think indoctrination into religion is a form of child abuse,” well “Libertarian” let’s reword that for your hypocritical illogical mind and let us see if you can logically extrapolate what is the obvious response; “I think indoctrination into government ownership and control of schools is a form of child abuse”:
“This indoctrination of gods is a form of child abuse and needs to stop. Anyone who sends their kids to church or Sunday school, or a religious school should have their children take by the state.” (Libertarian)
Maybe you need to change that “Lean: Libertarian” to National Socialist Libertarian, as it might make more sense, although however illogical a Chomsky like you would be; let us extrapolate further using your words with a twist:
“This indoctrination of politics leaning away from the Libertarian ideals is a form of child abuse and needs to stop. Any Libertarian who sends their kids to Socialist schools, or a political school leaning away from Libertarian ideas of Reading, Writing, and Math--so as to be logical with what you said, “that they have no bias when they are old enough to choose for themselves a belief structure”--should have their children take [sic] by the state.”
You asked: “How dare someone critique religion, right?”
You were not critiquing one religion but all religion, for sure, gag me with a spoon. If you want to critique all religion, I will critique all Libertarians as hypocrites. Libertarians and clapping monkeys who agree with you--who send their children to Socialist public schools, to be indoctrinated into the national socialist public school model of the approved political and religious (evolution, big bang without a change of state to make it go bump in the night) curriculum of the National Socialist Department of Education--are hypocrites.
The logical argument did follow from your bigoted fallacy and label:
“All Libertarians who send their children to public school are child abusers.”
How dare someone critique Libertarians, right?
The form of child abuse the Libertarians committed by sending their children to public schools was gross hypocrisy. The religiously minded who understand the reason for government separation into States (republics), which have differently worded Bill of Rights, due to different sects being in the original thirteen colonies, are not hypocrites like your kind of illogical Libertarian. (See, New York constitution, the word “but,” and the Biblical word “lasciviousness“)
I like most on here do not know the logic of why they took away the children, as “liberals” have no logic, still following my logic assumed there might be another reason, but I rejected the free speech argument as the State has a different amendment, and figured it was simply a violation of the child‘s civil rights. According to the “liberal” Supreme Court of nine appointed for life tyrants (see, Plato‘s “Republic“), “free speech” is climbing up a flag poll stealing a flag that is not yours and burning it; logically it should follow that wearing a sheet and burning a cross or hanging noose from a tree on Public School grounds would be free speech too. Logic does not apply to what the “liberal” government does. I speculated it had to do with the parents depriving the child of “civil rights” to choose his own speech, not to be flung into the fire, due to the State‘s amendment only giving the parents the right “to write and publish” their (his) “sentiments on all subjects.” And I will admit it is a stretch of sea lawyer sarcasm in their defense:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...removed-home-new-jersey-5.html#post1057883967
Using your own words with a twist:
If you're going to say that no State has a legitimate purpose intervening in such a case, because a name does not constitute indoctrination into something you don't agree with, and thus is not child abuse; you'd damned well be prepared for the consequences of dead children named “Islam Sucks“ after your cultural state is lost from a lack of establishing proper education. The argument can be made of pretty much anything, like I am doing, and before you know it you've authorized your worse nightmare of Islam (the religion of Jenin’s peace) to acquire critical mass in government, and to act in well more than it should have been able to act in. {when naked can you prove you are not a Jew? I have German, Celtic, Anglo Saxon, and Cherokee ancestry, to name the ones I know, and as an American mutt with a cold nose I cannot. I do not know what a Jewish tree looks like to hide behind for when Jenin/Hamas‘s Islam seeks to bring judgment day}
“[7.36] And (as for) those who reject Our
communications and turn away from them
haughtily these are the inmates of the fire they
shall abide in it.
[7.37] Who is then more unjust than he who
forges a lie against Allah or rejects His
communications? (As for) those, their portion
of the Book shall reach them, until when Our
messengers come to them causing them to
die, they shall say: Where is that which you
used to call upon besides Allah? They would
say: They are gone away from us; and they
shall bear witness against themselves that
they were unbelievers”
(posted August 30, 2001 10:35 PM)
You said: “It was said that it was good that these people had their children taken away because the name was a form of indoctrination and abuse. I merely changed the subject and kept the argument the same.”
I kept the argument the same, by juxtaposing your critique of religion with my critique of Libertarians.
You said: “Adults can make up their mind, but they shouldn't be indoctrinated into it as a child.”
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”
See Dick the Digambara run on that “free exercise thereof;” the proof of concept of our Constitution is its continued application even in the light of “liberal“ abuses. See Jane the Libertarian hypocrite cry out, “What is it that, with ’it’ so big; I see DICK run!” {now illustrate the children’s book for me, and let‘s get it in our “Libertarian” public schools}
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.”
When you understand it, you can have a Republic too; a lack of understanding and bad schools gives you what you have.
Under the guise of civil rights, you will destroy this country. I am sure Islam will teach you how to read the clear communications of our Constitution.
If you do not want bias from the City-State--illogically either way (acceptable god of Moloch; flinging the children into the fire), establishing or not what is good according to your State’s majority rule and the Tenth Amendment, in compliance with the other Bill of Rights whose words alone are not restricted and apply to all States (See all “redundant” Bill of Rights in State Constitutions, and FDR‘s Sol Bloom illogic born of Supreme abuse)--you might as well open the gates and let in the Trojan Horse in for more than a veiling of the Digambara’s Dick.