You're just laying insult because my opinion is different and in this instance you're controlled by emotion.
Yeah, I am quite frustrated by your absurd comments.
What I said is the rational solution to never ending war.
Huh? Arguing that each side should just stop is rational only to some arrogant boob who thinks that national interest or religious interest are just outdated and unimportant.
These people have been fighting for decades, it's not like this just broke out the other day. Your arguments would have more weight if it had.
Oh, nonsense.
My comments are directed at your argument.
But this is a cycle now, it doesn't matter who started it initially; what matters is breaking the cycle.
And only an arrogant liberal fool would argue that all is needed is for us to talk to the terrorists so they don't feel ignored and to encourage both sides to just drop their grievances or their national interest in self-preservation.
With such entrenched fear and hate the only thing which could bring about this change is for both sides to acknowledge their wrong doings and for both sides to commit to leaving those wrong doings in the past.
Are you serious?
This totaly disregards the FACT that the Arabs and Muslims don't want to co-exist.
What do you not get about this?
You merely want to call this "arrogance" because you emotion is blinding you, your blind faith to Israel is blinding you.
No, it's arrogant to think that this war is simply being fought over outdated or irrelevant interests.
Israel itself can no longer be given a free ticket.
Who the hell is giving them a free ticket? Israel is universally condemned in this war while Hamas is permitted to freely attack without condemnation from the EU, UN, the western intelligentsia, the western media, etc.
Both sides must be held accountable for their actions. Is this liberal arrogance? Holding people accountable? Maybe now it is.
No, that comment does not reflect liberal arrogance. I clearly told you what I thought was representaitve of liberal arrogance.
Insult and emotionalized rhetoric won't prove your point.
My point is proved otherwise.
Israel feels that it's ok to take out 100's of Palestinians per Israeli. What's the point? Both are committing bad acts against each other and both think they're in the right for doing so.
Bad acts? Can you be any more childish?
Israel feels it's her sovereign right to defend herself. That she is more successful at defending herself shouldn't be a point of discussion or condemnation.
In the end, it's always about property, money, or power. Your emotions prevent you from rationally analyzing this.
Oh my goodness. So this war has nothing to do with the Arab and Muslim anti-semitism and a nation defending herself from such?
It's just about ~insert someone~ pursuit of money, property, or power?
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I don't hate Israel, I just think that their problems are their problems and they should solve them themselves.
Yeah, their problem is that Arabs and Muslims want to annihilate her. And Israel is attempting to solve that problem...no thanks to people like you that condemn her for defending herself.
People are arguing that we must protect Israel because it's a democracy. We're not here to spread democracy or protect all democracy. People need to fight for their own government and their own freedom. It's not our job to do it for them.
What you think we are here for and what our elected leaders think we are here for are certainly two different things. I happen to believe in American exceptionalism while people like you simply prefer to believe that the US is just a greedy imperialistic and paternalistic autocracy.
You saying Israel can't win? Again, our govenrment is not empowered to spread democracy, it's not empowered to fight other people's battles.
Defending Israel ain't neither one.
No, as I said, I'd still argue that it's their business to defend themselves and they should be left to it. Try reading.
They are defending themselves even as you constantly criticize and condemn them for doing so.
Your arguments would have israel not defend themselves because nothing they can do will satisfy your standards.
