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240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

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240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt - Yahoo! News

Raed Jarrar received the pay out on Friday from two US Transportation Security Authority officials and from JetBlue Airways following the August 2006 incident at New York's JFK Airport, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) announced.

"The outcome of this case is a victory for free speech and a blow to the discriminatory practice of racial profiling," said Aden Fine, a lawyer with ACLU.

Jarrar, a US resident, was apprehended as he waited to board a JetBlue flight from New York to Oakland, California, and told to remove his shirt, which had written on it in Arabic: "We will not be silent."

He was told other passengers felt uncomfortable because an Arabic-inscribed T-shirt in an airport was like "wearing a T-shirt at a bank stating, I am a robber,'" the ACLU said.

Jarrar eventually agreed to cover his shirt with another provided by JetBlue. He was allowed aboard but his seat was changed from the front to the back of the aircraft.

We all know that every Muslim's dream is to blow up one of those ****ty ass JetBlue planes. I'm glad this story had a happy ending.
 
240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt - Yahoo! News



We all know that every Muslim's dream is to blow up one of those ****ty ass JetBlue planes. I'm glad this story had a happy ending.

I think a private company can have dress standards. And why almost a quarter of a million. I don' think there was infringement of rights in this case, private companies can refuse service and it had a negative impact on their other customers. Too much money for something so silly.
 
Where can I buy one of those shirts? I'll pick one up, and then I have a plane to catch. :mrgreen:
 
Here's the t-shirt in question, I think. I think he's declaring jihad:

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:rofl
 
his seat was changed from the front to the back of the aircraft.

Damn I hate sitting in the back of the plane!!! That in its self is worth a quarter million:lol:
 
I think a private company can have dress standards. And why almost a quarter of a million. I don' think there was infringement of rights in this case, private companies can refuse service and it had a negative impact on their other customers. Too much money for something so silly.


While I do think the amount won was too much (though how much does he have to pay his lawyers?), but there is no doubt in my mind he should have won. It was absolutely absurd to be offended by writing that no one understood.
 
The plane operators have a right declare a standard and make him abide by it.
This lawsuit is bull****.
 
The plane operators have a right declare a standard and make him abide by it.
This lawsuit is bull****.

If anyone thinks this would have happened to a white Christian with the same T-Shirt, I have a bridge to sell you in Iraq.

This isn't a dress code violation, this is the fact that a Muslim wore something in Arabic. If it was a white guy wearing the same T-Shirt, this would not have happened.

Dress codes are for everyone, not just Muslims.

This guy deserved to win the lawsuit, although I agree the amount given was Bull**** though. It was WAAAAAAY too much.
 
I agree that if it was some white guy wearing that shirt nothing would have happened, but the plaintiff should get a refund of the flight, an apology and $2,000 for his troubles.

The amount asked is ridiculous.
 
Sharia creeps in slowly but surely,

Really? What part of Sharia goes through American courts? What part of Sharia do 't-shirts' fit into? More specifically what part of an airline bending over for every uneducated yokel who thinks Arab = Terrorism does Sharia fit into? You make me want to rethink whether liberals are really wrong when debating Islamic terrorism.
 
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Sharia creeps in slowly but surely,

How do you figure?

If a white guy wore this T-Shirt nothing would have happened. Hardly Sharia law, but please over-exaggerate.

This wasn't a dress code violation, this was anti-Muslim. White Christian would not have been stopped over this.

I agree with those that said the award amount was too much, but he deserved to win the lawsuit.
 
The t-shirt says lan nasmut, "We will not be silent." It is a slogan adopted by Arab opponents of totalitarian regimes from the White Rose group that opposed the Nazis. It's basically an anti-totalitarian/peace phrase.

Here is the image of what was on the shirt:

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As you can see, it is in English and Arabic.

Raed Jarrar is not a fundamentalist Muslim. He is an anti-war activist. He is the founder of Emaar, an NGO that does humanitarian work in Iraq. His blog is here if you wish to contact him and ask him for yourself.

How anyone can construe this as "Shar'ia law" is beyond me, unless you are referring to the actions of Jet Blue.
 
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While I do think the amount won was too much (though how much does he have to pay his lawyers?), but there is no doubt in my mind he should have won. It was absolutely absurd to be offended by writing that no one understood.

As absurd as it is, the plane is private property and the property owner gets to set the rules.
 
Just to clarify, there was no award. This was a settlement paid out to make the case go away.
 
How do you figure?

If a white guy wore this T-Shirt nothing would have happened. Hardly Sharia law, but please over-exaggerate.

This wasn't a dress code violation, this was anti-Muslim. White Christian would not have been stopped over this.

I agree with those that said the award amount was too much, but he deserved to win the lawsuit.

Nah, people would never do something like this to a white person. It must be a racial thing.:roll:

oh wait.

Southwest boots woman from flight over a T-shirt - Oct. 7, 2005
 
Nah, people would never do something like this to a white person. It must be a racial thing.:roll:

oh wait.

Southwest boots woman from flight over a T-shirt - Oct. 7, 2005

That article is too funny. My favorite parts:

Lorrie Heasley, of Woodland, Wash., was asked to leave her flight from Los Angeles to Portland, Ore., Tuesday for wearing a T-shirt with pictures of President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and a phrase similar to the popular film title "Meet the Fockers."

Eloquently put.

"I have cousins in Iraq and other relatives going to war," Heasley told the Reno Gazette-Journal. "Here we are trying to free another country and I have to get off an airplane in midflight over a T-shirt. That's not freedom."

No, that's skydiving.

According to the airline spokeswoman, Heasley was asked to leave after she refused to cover up her T-shirt, an account that conflicts with Heasley's version in the Gazette-Journal.

Heasley told the newspaper that she agreed to cover her shirt with a sweatshirt, but it slipped as she slept.

SEEMS PLAUSIBLE.
 
Nah, people would never do something like this to a white person. It must be a racial thing.

oh wait.

Southwest boots woman from flight over a T-shirt - Oct. 7, 2005

There is a small difference between getting booted from a flight based on political affiliations and getting booted based on race/language.

If you want to prove them wrong then you would have to supply a case of a white person with Arabic writing on their shirt getting booted from a plane for it.

As absurd as it is, the plane is private property and the property owner gets to set the rules.

Were you the one that said racial segregation on private property is okay, or was that someone else? Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter because that's what you believe.
 
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There is a small difference between getting booted from a flight based on political affiliations and getting booted based on race/language.

If you want to prove them wrong then you would have to supply a case of a white person with Arabic writing on their shirt getting booted from a plane for it.

Not really. Someone with a slogan on their shirt was booted because other passengers found it uncomfortable. People make it about race because that pays more.

Were you the one that said racial segregation on private property is okay, or was that someone else? Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter because that's what you believe.

Racial segregation and even flat out discrimination for any reason IS okay on private property. Well, legal anyway.
 
Not really. Someone with a slogan on their shirt was booted because other passengers found it uncomfortable. People make it about race because that pays more.

You're obviously missing the point of the earlier posters. They are saying that Raed wasn't booted from the flight simply for the slogan on his shirt, but also because of the fact that he is Middle Eastern (Half Iraqi-Half Palestinian to be exact) and wearing a shirt that has Arabic writing on it.

Hence the claim that if a white person wore the same shirt (i.e. one with Arabic writing on it) they wouldn't get booted.

Racial segregation and even flat out discrimination for any reason IS okay on private property. Well, legal anyway.

Uh, no it's not...
 
I have a problem with the amount paid out, and I'm iffy about whether it should've happened or not.

On one hand, I believe its within the rights of the airline to deny anyone to fly on their flights that they believe will be or cause a disturbance or is in violation with one of their r ules.

On the other, this would only work if this was written somewhere, even in the fine print, that this person had prior to this point. If it wasn't, then tehy were in the wrong.

You can't say this is a discrimination thing unless you can somehow PROVE that they did it only because he was of arabic descent. Businesses get "innocent until proven" guilty just like citizens do, and assuming it was done because of race shouldn't fly in court. If someone from that same airport, on that same airline, was previously allowed onto the plane with a similar shirt and customers complained and the airline did nothing...THEN it'd be descrimination.

If anyone thinks this would have happened to a white Christian with the same T-Shirt, I have a bridge to sell you in Iraq.

Well thankfully, your opinion isn't the legal standard on laws.

This isn't a dress code violation, this is the fact that a Muslim wore something in Arabic. If it was a white guy wearing the same T-Shirt, this would not have happened.

That's your opinion. You have absolutely zero proof to back up this is the case so its a baseless assertion, showing bigotry of your own against anyone that would dare to enforce a rule against someone of arabic descent.

Dress codes are for everyone, not just Muslims.

And can you prove that this was the case? Or are you just mouthing off?

If you want to prove them wrong then you would have to supply a case of a white person with Arabic writing on their shirt getting booted from a plane for it.

Um, actually no. You're kind of backwards there. The company is innocent of discrimination unless it can be proven that they had a similar situation as this, with someone wearing an arabic lettering shirt that caused passengers to complain, but was white and was not asked to cover the shirt.

Now, in regards to public opinion...yes, you can say that people have to prove those saying it was discrimination wrong. But people can equally say that those claiming discrimination must prove it as well.

So far there is ZERO proof he was discriminated against because of his race.

Were you the one that said racial segregation on private property is okay, or was that someone else? Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter because that's what you believe.

Were you the one blathering on about racial segregation and giving backup to those talking of discriminating against people without an ounce of proof and nothing but hypothetical theories about something with nothing to back it up? Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter becuase that's what you believe.
 
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Were you the one that said racial segregation on private property is okay, or was that someone else? Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter because that's what you believe.

I didn't say that, but that is up to the property owners. If you want to make a white only club, have fun. I wouldn't say it's ok in the moral sense, but in the legal sense I don't see what can really be done about it.
 
Uh, no it's not...

It most certainly is. I can decide who can and can not come on my property for any reason. I can tell anyone they must leave my property for any reason. Even if the reason is because they are black or blue or purple.
People can even have a club that excludes people based on sex, race, age, etc as long as it's a private club that requires a membership.
 
It most certainly is.

Sorry, I was thinking about Fair Housing and Employment Discrimination laws, so you are right. It is legal to discriminate on private property.

Obviously I don't support that.
 
Just to clarify, there was no award. This was a settlement paid out to make the case go away.

Thanks for the clarification. It's an important point in the debate.
If the airline is so inclined to pay this guy to shut up, so be it. It's their money, freely given.
 
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