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9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

Ok, heres my opinion on this. Once the FBI cleared them the airline should have let them fly. On the other hand I understand how the other passengers could become suspicious. Muslims know many Americans are suspicious of them to begin with. So why say things that would raise a red flag. Anyway Its a shame this family had to be treated this way but thats where we are in todays society. The Airline would have been derelict to do nothing once the other passengers concerns where brought to there attention.
 
Those huge letters weren't just for you. They are for EVERYONE who thinks that if the turban fits you're a terrorist. The Airline ****ed up. Saying that they were justified because the family was dressed like the Muslims from 9/11 is Bs. Nobody would have seen 9/11 coming if the thing they were looking out for was muslim clothing like 'turbans'. Using it to justify 'random' searches and unwarranted fears of anything Muslims is bs if that is the reason they cite. Not saying thats what you did. That's just what it seems like when people support taking Muslims off planes because of how they look.

The airline never said they were dressed like Muslims from 9-11. It was responding to a complaint. And no one here has advocating jerking muslims off planes because they are muslims.

However, I am fully behind the idea of taking greater care with muslims because it has been shown that muslims have a proclivity for bombing planes while in conflict with another country. If there is a report of a chinese guy stabbing random people, I don't think the police should be wasting time looking for a black guy just to appear unbiased against the chinese when everyone knows they are looking for a chinese guy anyway.
 
Ok, heres my opinion on this. Once the FBI cleared them the airline should have let them fly. On the other hand I understand how the other passengers could become suspicious. Muslims know many Americans are suspicious of them to begin with. So why say things that would raise a red flag. Anyway Its a shame this family had to be treated this way but thats where we are in todays society. The Airline would have been derelict to do nothing once the other passengers concerned where brought to there attention.

I remember when i flew from Heathrow to Germany and Somaliland back to UK. I was dressed in the full abaya and hijab as well and i didn't get stopped once minus the mandatory security checks and a few nervous glances lmao.
Maybe US is just more harsher with security, when my brother went New York a few years ago he said it wasn't worth the hassle of the forms that was needed to be filled and the time taken to get through security
 
I demand that today be made 'Terrorists bring their kids to work' day.
 
Are you mad you got intellectually raped? Go back to Jesus land kid before I decide your cross is insulting to all powerful atheismo.

Are you raggin today or pissed off because your wife is ragging right now? Cuz there is a whole lot of menstrual pissiness coming from Hatuey land today. :2wave:
 
Are you mad you got intellectually raped? Go back to Jesus land kid before I decide your cross is insulting to all powerful atheismo.

I don't recall arguing the 9/11 Terrorist were wearing Turbans... I was merely commenting on your enormous ego problem.
 
The airline never said they were dressed like Muslims from 9-11. It was responding to a complaint. And no one here has advocating jerking muslims off planes because they are muslims.

I never said the airline said that. From what I've read a lot of people here were saying that with not so many words.

However, I am fully behind the idea of taking greater care with muslims because it has been shown that muslims have a proclivity for bombing planes while in conflict with another country. If there is a report of a chinese guy stabbing random people, I don't think the police should be wasting time looking for a black guy just to appear unbiased against the chinese when everyone knows they are looking for a chinese guy anyway.

Uh. Yeah. It's been my experience that most suicide bombers who hit the west tend to look conservatively so as to not attract suspicion. You know. Lacoste shirt, pants etc.
 
I remember when i flew from Heathrow to Germany and Somaliland back to UK. I was dressed in the full abaya and hijab as well and i didn't get stopped once minus the mandatory security checks and a few nervous glances lmao.
Maybe US is just more harsher with security, when my brother went New York a few years ago he said it wasn't worth the hassle of the forms that was needed to be filled and the time taken to get through security

America had 911, do you expect a different response?
 
I never said the airline said that. From what I've read a lot of people here were saying that with not so many words.



Uh. Yeah. It's been my experience that most suicide bombers who hit the west tend to look conservatively so as to not attract suspicion. You know. Lacoste shirt, pants etc.

I don't think it's worth taking a risk with either mode of dress just to appease the "you're a racist" weenies.
 
:rofl. Yes Vicchio. This family brought their kids along so they could participate in a terrorist attack and you prove that by providing completely non-sequitur links. The stupidity of some conservatives will never cease to amaze me. It's kind of like watching that crazy bitch from Trading Spouses screaming 'I come in the name of Jesus!' just in case.

YouTube - Trading Spouses - Crazy Lady - "I'm a God warrior"

MY point, was that terrorist are not averse to using children as part of their attacks, thus saying "well they had children with them so obviously there is nothing wrong" is flawed. This is hard for you to grasp.
 
America had 911, do you expect a different response?

No, I was just merely commenting that US seems more harsher in its security checks compared to other European countries who has also had terror attacks as well.

But i see no problem with it, i just wouldn't want to spend hours in security
 
I don't think it's worth taking a risk with either mode of dress just to appease the "you're a racist" weenies.

Why would someone wanting to blow themselves up and cause deaths want to draw attention to themselves? They would blend in.
The London bombers didn't exactly wear a turban did they?
 
No, I was just merely commenting that US seems more harsher in its security checks compared to other European countries who has also had terror attacks as well.

But i see no problem with it, i just wouldn't want to spend hours in security

On that I don't blame you. It IS annoying, but I'd rather do the security dance then the "oh **** we're gonna hit that building" dance.

The real sad part is, if the Government cuts back the security, and God forbid another attack is carried out... the lawsuits will be... horrible. (yes, the loss of life will be too, but I'm looking from a Bureaucrat POV here)
 
On that I don't blame you. It IS annoying, but I'd rather do the security dance then the "oh **** we're gonna hit that building" dance.

The real sad part is, if the Government cuts back the security, and God forbid another attack is carried out... the lawsuits will be... horrible. (yes, the loss of life will be too, but I'm looking from a Bureaucrat POV here)

I'd rather not travel at all, its alot safer in the long run and alot less hassle.

Lol, lawsuit.
The security spent is too much tbh. I'd rather we cut back on it [along with MP's salaries] a bit and spend it on our hospitals instead ;/
 
I'd rather not travel at all, its alot safer in the long run and alot less hassle.

Lol, lawsuit.
The security spent is too much tbh. I'd rather we cut back on it [along with MP's salaries] a bit and spend it on our hospitals instead ;/

I'm not into government healthcare, but that's a diff thread ;)
 
Why would someone wanting to blow themselves up and cause deaths want to draw attention to themselves? They would blend in.
The London bombers didn't exactly wear a turban did they?

I am simply saying that we need to be just a little extra secure against middle eastern muslims, whether they are "obviously such" or "possibly not but we ain't taking any chances" appearing. It has been a reality that the true shock troops for Mohammed's version of crazy Jesus-lemmings doesn't exactly wear a uniform and I would hate to think we missed one because it suddenly developed a sense of honor.
 
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I am simply saying that we need to be just a little extra secure against middle eastern muslims, whether they are "obviously such" or "possibly not but we ain't taking any chances" appearing. It has been a reality that the true shock troops for Islam's version of crazy Jesus jumpers doesn't exactly wear a uniform and I would hate to think we missed one because it suddenly developed a sense of honor.

Wow... :shock:
 
I'm not into government healthcare, but that's a diff thread ;)

How about lets never get into national healthcare? We'd be at it forever
 
How about lets never get into national healthcare? We'd be at it forever

Not really... National Health care is a disaster, how can there be a debate over the issue?
:doh

Wait you said let's not get into it! ;)
 
I am simply saying that we need to be just a little extra secure against middle eastern muslims, whether they are "obviously such" or "possibly not but we ain't taking any chances" appearing. It has been a reality that the true shock troops for Islam's version of crazy Jesus jumpers doesn't exactly wear a uniform and I would hate to think we missed one because it suddenly developed a sense of honor.

So by alienating the very community needed on your side, you seek to stop terrorism or the threat of terrorism? That makes no sense.

I'd rather more random searches was made
 
Orlando, Fla.-based AirTran said in a statement that it refunded the passengers' air fare and planned to reimburse them for replacement tickets they bought on US Airways. AirTran also offered to take the passengers back to Washington free of charge.

"We apologize to all of the passengers—to the nine who had to undergo extensive interviews from the authorities and to the 95 who ultimately made the flight," the statement said. "Nobody on Flight 175 reached their destination on time on New Year's Day, and we regret it."

The airline said the incident on the flight was a misunderstanding, but the steps taken were necessary.

A U.S. Muslim advocacy group, meanwhile, filed a complaint Friday with the U.S. Department of Transportation. "It is incumbent on any airline to ensure that members of the traveling public are not singled out or mistreated based on their perceived race, religion or national origin" the Council for American-Islamic Relations said.

One of the Muslim passengers, Atif Irfan, said the family probably would not fly home with AirTran because members had already booked tickets on another airline, but appreciated the apology.

"It's definitely nice to hear," he said.

Irfan said when he boarded the flight Thursday, he mentioned something to his wife and sister-in-law about having to sit in the back. His sister-in-law replied that she believed the back of the airplane was the safest, but Irfan believed it was better to be by the wings.

"She said, 'Yes, I guess it makes sense not to be close to the engine in case something happens,'" Irfan recalled Friday. "It was a very benign conversation."

Shortly after taking their seats, members of the group were approached by federal air marshals and taken off the plane, Irfan said. They stood in the jet bridge connected to the airport and answered questions while other passengers exited and glared at them.
AirTran apologizes for removing Muslim passengers

Oh look, the airliner did the right thing... amazing thing eh?

They had no law against their actions, and didn't HAVE to do this. That they hadn't is their right. It is also not a shock to read this, it was expected. So this is now an almost non-issue.
 
So by alienating the very community needed on your side, you seek to stop terrorism or the threat of terrorism? That makes no sense.

I'd rather more random searches was made



Random searches means less time spent on the most likely targets.. might "feel good" but isn't practical.
 
Not really... National Health care is a disaster, how can there be a debate over the issue?
:doh

Wait you said let's not get into it! ;)

And private healthcare is so damn perfect itself.

Either way, you keep your services. We'll keep our NHS.
I just wish the Government would quit ***** footing around and nationalise the train system already
 
Random searches means less time spent on the most likely targets.. might "feel good" but isn't practical.

I doubt any future terrorist would be stupid enough to go for planes anymore.
I'd imagine they target the weak spots such as buses, trains. How do you secure those?
 
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