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Israeli air strikes target Gaza

Billo_Really said:
Oh yes it does. Israel is doing things that are enabling this hatred.
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This hatred of Jews exploded the very day Israel become an independent nation. How is Israel enabling a hatred that existed long before it became a sovereign nation?

If they would just stop exporting their own brand of terrorism, a lot of this hatred towards them would go away. Egypt did not turn Gaza into an open air prison, Israel did. And that's a war crime. What you want addressed, is a myth! You want Israel to be absolved of any wrongdoing at all. You think they can have their cake and eat it too.
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:roll:

Israel ain't innocent, but she is far more noble and legitimate then the animals attacking her and their populations supporting such attacks.
 
Billo_Really said:
Oh yes it does. Israel is doing things that are enabling this hatred. If they would just stop exporting their own brand of terrorism, a lot of this hatred towards them would go away. Egypt did not turn Gaza into an open air prison, Israel did. And that's a war crime. What you want addressed, is a myth! You want Israel to be absolved of any wrongdoing at all. You think they can have their cake and eat it too.
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The world seems to be turning into something different now that Americans actually pay attention to world affairs.
 
Truth Detector said:
The incursion into Iraq and Afghanistan? WRONG; the Israeli/Palestinian conflict has been going on since 1948, perhaps even a few years earlier and has NOTHING to do with Iraq or Afghanistan.

Carry on. :2wave:
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He said it was a REFLECTION of the war on terror. That would make it an opinion. Contrary to your own beliefs, your opinion holds no bearing over his and opinions cannot be wrong.

:fyi:
 
JMak said:
If the Palestinians would govern themselves resposnibily and stop indiscriminately killing Israeli civilians, well, you'd have a point.
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I don't need to make a point for them to govern responsibly and stop the indiscriminate killings. If they'll do that, I'll forego my point.

JMak said:
Right, so just let the Palestinians continue firing rounds into Israeli hoods because the Palestinians have holed up on school grounds, eh?
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I thought it was "next" to the school grounds.

JMak said:
Seriously, are the Palestinians immune from any responsbility for locating, storing, luanching, etc. terror attacks from schools, hospitals, cemeteries, etc.?
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What attacks have been launched from "schools, hospitals, cemetaries"? And you didn't answer my question. How are they supposed to stop them when Israeli soldiers shoot anyone with a gun?

JMak said:
I guess not to apologists like you.
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Who am I apologizing for? When did I apologize? And how did I apologize? Or do you just want to say ****?
 
JMak said:
This hatred of Jews exploded the very day Israel become an independent nation. How is Israel enabling a hatred that existed long before it became a sovereign nation?

:roll:

Israel ain't innocent, but she is far more noble and legitimate then the animals attacking her and their populations supporting such attacks.
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Well, if you know your history, Israel used terrorism to create that sovereign nation. BTW, don't give me this soveriegn nation **** from a country that has been an occupying force for the last 42 years.
 
Billo_Really said:
Who am I apologizing for? When did I apologize? And how did I apologize? Or do you just want to say ****?
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You misunderstand his usage of the term "apologist". It comes from the Greek apologia, meaning "speaking in defense".
 
EgoffTib said:
You misunderstand his usage of the term "apologist". It comes from the Greek apologia, meaning "speaking in defense".
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I know what he meant. I'm trying to get him to tell me why he thinks I'm speaking in defense of Hamas or the Palestinian's. Just because I think it's ludicrous to state it's all the Palestinian's fault and Israel has done nothing wrong, is not defending anyone. Both are guilty, both are at fault.
 
Billo_Really said:
Well, if you know your history, Israel used terrorism to create that sovereign nation. BTW, don't give me this soveriegn nation **** from a country that has been an occupying force for the last 42 years.
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Oh? A nation that didn't exist used terrorism to forcee to create that nation?

And here I thought this had involved something called Balfour, Mandate, Jordan, etc.

My goodness, I have been misinformed. Israel, which didn't exist, used terrorism to carve out a strip of land west of the Jordan River and call it her own...

Shut up, please.
 
Billo_Really said:
I don't need to make a point for them to govern responsibly and stop the indiscriminate killings. If they'll do that, I'll forego my point.

I thought it was "next" to the school grounds.

What attacks have been launched from "schools, hospitals, cemetaries"? And you didn't answer my question. How are they supposed to stop them when Israeli soldiers shoot anyone with a gun?

Who am I apologizing for? When did I apologize? And how did I apologize? Or do you just want to say ****?
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Are you serious? Setting up mortars next to a school doesn't qualify as using schools to launch attacks?

Absurd.

And you're a terror apologist. That's what you do every time you present this gross moral equivalencies. It certainly a criticism of the palestinians who wholly support such Muslim/Arab terrorism.
 
Billo_Really said:
I know what he meant. I'm trying to get him to tell me why he thinks I'm speaking in defense of Hamas or the Palestinian's. Just because I think it's ludicrous to state it's all the Palestinian's fault and Israel has done nothing wrong, is not defending anyone. Both are guilty, both are at fault.
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Your moral equivalencies are offensive and absurd. These equivalencies only serve to minimize the absurdity of using terrorism to address political grievances. Hence, you're defending the use of terrorism as a reasonable and appropriate response to political grievance.

Israel is a recognized sovereign nation. Since her first day of sovereignty she has been under siege by Muslims and Arabs.

I don't, at all, argue that Israel has no responsibility in this fight, but she certainly has a greater legitimacy to her than those attacking her.
 
JMak said:
Are you serious? Setting up mortars next to a school doesn't qualify as using schools to launch attacks?.
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Your neighbor shoots a guy across the street. Did he use your house for the attack?

JMak said:
And you're a terror apologist. That's what you do every time you present this gross moral equivalencies. It certainly a criticism of the palestinians who wholly support such Muslim/Arab terrorism.
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You just want to namecall because it's:
  1. easy
  2. lazy
  3. pithe
Now I'll ask you again, "Who am I apologizing for?"
 
JMak said:
Your moral equivalencies are offensive and absurd. These equivalencies only serve to minimize the absurdity of using terrorism to address political grievances. Hence, you're defending the use of terrorism as a reasonable and appropriate response to political grievance.
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Show me the post where I've done this.

JMak said:
Israel is a recognized sovereign nation. Since her first day of sovereignty she has been under siege by Muslims and Arabs.
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She is not recognized in the OPT. In fact, there isn't a country on earth that has done that. Do the math!

JMak said:
I don't, at all, argue that Israel has no responsibility in this fight, but she certainly has a greater legitimacy to her than those attacking her.
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Legitimacy, in regards to what?
 
JMak said:
Are you serious? Setting up mortars next to a school doesn't qualify as using schools to launch attacks?

Absurd.

And you're a terror apologist. That's what you do every time you present this gross moral equivalencies. It certainly a criticism of the palestinians who wholly support such Muslim/Arab terrorism.
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wtf are UN schools doing letting rockets go off RIGHT next to them? Hrm.... Intresting. Too bad we don't have pictures of rockets being launched right next to it. Unlike pictures of lots of death.
 
All I know is that if Obama kicks in the door on the 20th and solves this situation in a day.... the whole world is staged. Bets on how quick he defuses it all anyone?
 
dirtpoorchris said:
All I know is that if Obama kicks in the door on the 20th and solves this situation in a day.... the whole world is staged. Bets on how quick he defuses it all anyone?
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Another way to look at this is Israel deliberately staged this time to do their invasion so they could get their last licks in before Obama shuts them down. Israel's our bitch! They'll do what we tell them to do. We need to control our bitch!
 
Riiiight.

So what Israeli official gave thier timetable to Hamas Rocketeers ? ? ?







dolt
 
Voidwar said:
Riiiight.

So what Israeli official gave thier timetable to Hamas Rocketeers ? ? ?

dolt
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You want to call me names?

I'd love to see you call me that to my face.

Isn't it time you reported me again?
 
Billo_Really said:
You want to call me names?

I'd love to see you call me that to my face.

Isn't it time you reported me again?
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I didn't know you could report people. I've never once reported a single person since I been here. I hate tattle talers.
 
Your suggestion was as asinine as it was preposterous.

Consider the "dolt" amended to "doltish comment"

And I'll say whatever I like and kill any man who lays a hand on me over it.

Words never equal, nor call for, violent physical action.

So I surely would say it to your face, and you would take it, or lose said face.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
I didn't know you could report people. I've never once reported a single person since I been here. I hate tattle talers.
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It's that little triangle with an "I" in it in the lower left hand corner. I use it like a weapon. I report everyone. It's fun! Someone says, "Good morning, billo", BOOM! REPORT! Proxy war using the mods as my tool. It's better than sex. In fact, I think I'll REPORT you for even asking the question. You should know better. You will when you get your warning point labelled PM in 5.42 hours from now.

Now, go ahead.......touch it!

Touch the button...

All are welcome...
 
Billo_Really said:
It's that little triangle with an "I" in it in the lower left hand corner. I use it like a weapon. I report everyone. It's fun! Someone says, "Good morning, billo", BOOM! REPORT! Proxy war using the mods as my tool. It's better than sex. In fact, I think I'll REPORT you for even asking the question. You should know better. You will when you get your warning point labelled PM in 5.42 hours from now.

Now, go ahead.......touch it!

Touch the button...

All are welcome...
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I used to like you. Please refer to my previous statement. *draws target on chest
 
Billo_Really said:
I also hear that Israel will not agree to a truce until they have obtained some military objectives.
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Have you also heard that Israel wants a cease fire with international troops on the ground with the power to enforce the terms of the cease fire?

Have you head that Hamas rejected that proposal?
 
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