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Israeli air strikes target Gaza

Tashah said:
Dual-use facilities are always occupied. If you militarize any building, it becomes a legitimate target regardless of the hour.
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As Khayembii Communique states, we have yet to see evidence that the facilities targeted housed weapons of any kind.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
I'm going to do something that I never really do because usually I find it highly inappropriate to do, but people here are so caught up in their own political agendas that they are forgetting that they are discussing real actions taking place in the real world with real consequences to real human beings.

So let's bring this situation back into the real world; everyone that says that bombing this was justified, could you please tell me how you justify this:

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I'm not posting this to support my own political agenda; I'm just incredibly sick of people acting so cruel and inhuman on this site (and elsewhere) by completely ignoring the fact that real people are dying and most of them are completely innocent. Please just take that into consideration when you discuss this.
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Can you prove this is real and not stagged?
Stagged like so many of the pic's from the 06 war?


I see no blood at all, no dust nor any dirt on the kid.
 
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Khayembii Communique said:
If you bomb out a Mosque that you know is full of civilians, it doesn't matter why you did it. You knew the civilians were there, you intended to bomb the Mosque, so you intended to kill the civilians, directly or indirectly as "collateral damage".

Then again, you justify that kind of disgusting inhumanity, so I'm not really interested in discussing this with you.
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You do them same thing when Hamas is attacking so you really have no right to talk.

Khayembii Communique said:
First, you are assuming that they actually did so, when there has been no proof of this offered.

Second, even if this was done it doesn't justify the bombing of all Mosques, especially when they are full of civilians. And the fact that you "would have rathered" they not bomb 200 civilians is really telling of your position and your agenda. You obviously don't see these people as human beings.

Everybody is biased; the question is whether or not the information presented is accurate or not. Instead of attacking the source, work with the information provided. If the site is indeed so biased, and you consider the information posted to be false, then it shouldn't be that hard for you to refute it.

The fact that you choose not to is more telling of your position than of the source of the information provided.
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1.) I didn't assume anything.

2.) Israel doesn't target at random ... if it was targeted there was a valid reason for doing so.

3.) Leafelts with warning of the attacks and instructing them to evacutate. I am sorry for those who failed to leave the area.

4.) You have no proof that the people in the mosque were all civilians ... YOU ARE ASSUMING THEY WERE ALL CIVILIANS and I would say that is very telling of YOUR bias and character. (Yes, it works both ways)

5.) The site is a KNOWN propaganda site. This fact alone discredits it. There is no need to debate the issue. The site is decidedly anti-Israel and is therefore not creditable. You calling me on this is very telling of where you stand on the issue.
 
EgoffTib said:
So, did they or did they not attack a civilian target? I'm not saying it was not justified, just pointing out that you're wrong in assuming that they do not attack civilian targets.
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They defended their naval blockade from breach by civilians. They did not take the offensive, so no, they did not attack civilians.
 
EgoffTib said:
As Khayembii Communique states, we have yet to see evidence that the facilities targeted housed weapons of any kind.
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You have yet post evidence they were not being used for that purpose.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
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blame Hamas

they put that childs life in danger by firing rockets from this kids house
or by using this kids house as a munitions factory
or by using this kids house to store munitiions
or by using this kids house to plan attacks
or by using this kids mosque to store munitions
etc.. ad nauseum

Blame Hamas and its tactics
 
EgoffTib said:
Personal attacks are the most prevalent, but attacking the source rather than the evidence is considered Ad Hom as well.
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Wrong.

That is incorrect. Attacking the source is a legitimate debate tactic.

You're now on the defensive because you got called for posting it.
 
EgoffTib said:
What a very convincing argument. I hope they bomb a school full of children next. :doh
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"kill them all, god will know his own"
 
Vader said:
Wrong.

That is incorrect. Attacking the source is a legitimate debate tactic.

You're now on the defensive because you got called for posting it.
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I have no need to be on the defensive. I made an argument and supplied evidence for it. You have failed to refute said argument with any evidence. Thanks for playing. :2wave:
 
blame Hamas

they put that childs life in danger by firing rockets from this kids house
or by using this kids house as a munitions factory
or by using this kids house to store munitiions
or by using this kids house to plan attacks
or by using this kids mosque to store munitions
etc.. ad nauseum

Blame Hamas and its tactics
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Wow, you really are inhuman. Seriously, that's so unbelievably ****ed that you could justify the bombing of civilians in your mind. Perhaps 9/11 is then justified as the US should be blamed for it because of their involvement in the middle east, right?:doh

God, what a completely ****ed up thing to say.
 
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EgoffTib said:
What a very convincing argument. I hope they bomb a school full of children next. :doh
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You mean like when the Hamas launch rockets from school yards?
Sadly yes kids will die. But who is really to blame?


The Hamas strive to cause civilian deaths to whip people like you into a rage against the Jewish.
 
cherokee said:
You mean like when the Hamas launch rockets from school yards?
Sadly yes kids will die. But who is really to blame?
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Both of them. Which is why we should support neither.


The Hamas strive to cause civilian deaths to whip people like you into a rage against the Jewish.
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Israel is just as bad as Hamas when it comes to this. Both have no regard for civilian life. It's sickening.
 
bub said:
The first kill of the ground offensive was a kid. 11 others were wounded by the same shell that destroyed their house. I don't think it was staged.

7s7 Israel-Palestine - Un enfant palestinien tué, 11 blessés par un tir de char (588305)
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Why do you always paste from a French news source?

Why can you not post from an English source?

Also ....

I am sorry that child died; however, it is a known fact that Hamas brainwashes children and teens during school. Therefore, the Hamas curiculum and the lack off parenting skills on the part of the child's parents are partially to blame.

Smart people do not allow their children to go out and roam the streets in a warzone.

Hamas teaches children to hate Israel, Jews, and Americans. Therefore, Hamas put those children in Harms way.

It's a sad, sick, and shouldn't be happening; If Hamas wasn't brainwashing children and creating martyrs, this is an issue that would cease to exist.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Wow, you really are inhuman. Seriously, that's so unbelievably ****ed that you could justify the bombing of civilians in your mind.
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what flavor Kool-aid do you prefer?

when an enemy turns protected civilian sites into legitimate military targets it is them with whom the blame lies
not the attacker

that is what is Inhuman
Hamas intentionally causes casualties amongst its civilian population so fools will succumb to their propaganda
 
Maybe they should just nuke Gaza, because all of those terrorists are guilty of terrorism against Israel, hell not even by voting in Hamas, but just by living there. Just kill em all, right DeeJay?

when an enemy turns protected civilian sites into legitimate military targets it is them with whom the blame lies
not the attacker
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As I've been asking repeatedly, where does that end? One Mosque? All Mosques? The entire territory? Are all civilians legitimate targets for voting in Hamas? Or perhaps they're all terrorists because they didn't fight against Hamas? Where does it end in your deranged mind? Or is it all justified, as long as it's pro-Israel and anti-Palestine?

that is what is Inhuman
Hamas intentionally causes casualties amongst its civilian population so fools will succumb to their propaganda
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Then 9/11 is your fault, because you voted.
 
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EgoffTib said:
As Khayembii Communique states, we have yet to see evidence that the facilities targeted housed weapons of any kind.
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No evidence to the contrary.
 
EgoffTib said:
Right. So we have no evidence that points either way. Remind me again what your argument was?
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You have no evidence ... The IDF obviously does.

Again, Israel DOES NOT attack at random.
 
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