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Israeli air strikes target Gaza

Deaths as Israel hits Gaza mosque

At least 11 Palestinians, including one child, have been killed after Israeli forces struck a mosque during prayers in the town of Beit Lahiya, north of Jabaliya in the Gaza Strip.

More than 200 people were inside the the Ibrahim al-Maqadna mosque praying when it was struck.


Short article so I couldn't quote the whole thing because of DP rules, but best quote:

"The Israeli military has destroyed several mosques during its week-long offensive in Gaza, saying Hamas uses the houses of worship to store weapons."

The moment you start justifying the killing of civilians as legitimate military targets is the moment you stop distinguishing between civilians and enemies. This is total war.

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Khayembii Communique said:
Deaths as Israel hits Gaza mosque

At least 11 Palestinians, including one child, have been killed after Israeli forces struck a mosque during prayers in the town of Beit Lahiya, north of Jabaliya in the Gaza Strip.

More than 200 people were inside the the Ibrahim al-Maqadna mosque praying when it was struck.


Short article so I couldn't quote the whole thing because of DP rules, but best quote:

"The Israeli military has destroyed several mosques during its week-long offensive in Gaza, saying Hamas uses the houses of worship to store weapons."

The moment you start justifying the killing of civilians as legitimate military targets is the moment you stop distinguishing between civilians and enemies. This is total war.

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We both know that some people here will find a way to justify it. Israel **** cannot possibly stink.
 
EgoffTib said:
It was an attack. It was on civilians. I'm sorry you are having issues fathoming such a simple concept. :lol:
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It was NOT on civilians. That is a load of horse ****.

The attack was on Hamas and that places they use to store weapons.
 
EgoffTib said:
We both know that some people here will find a way to justify it. Israel **** cannot possibly stink.
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dont stockpile weapons in your holy places of worship
because if you do, it becomes a legitimate military target
i would have rathered they did not destroy it during prayer services though
 
EgoffTib said:
Please refute the image posted rather than resorting to Ad Hominem. Thanks.
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Calling a propaganda site a propaganda site is NOT an ad hom attack.

You ARE grasping at straws now.
 
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DeeJayH said:
dont stockpile weapons in your holy places of worship
because if you do, it becomes a legitimate military target
i would have rathered they did not destroy it during prayer services though
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I can see that; however, Israel DID drop leaflets warning people to get the hell out of dodge.
 
Vader said:
It was NOT on civilians. That is a load of horse ****.

The attack was on Hamas and that places they use to store weapons.
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If you are going to make an attempt at debating, please try to comprehend what is being discussed. The post you quoted was in response to the article talking about Israel attacking a mercy ship, not a weapon storage facility.
 
Vader said:
Calling a propaganda site a propaganda site is NOT an adom attack.

You ARE grasping at straws now.
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Oh really? You are pretty amusing to debate:

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.
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Khayembii Communique said:
Deaths as Israel hits Gaza mosque

At least 11 Palestinians, including one child, have been killed after Israeli forces struck a mosque during prayers in the town of Beit Lahiya, north of Jabaliya in the Gaza Strip.

More than 200 people were inside the the Ibrahim al-Maqadna mosque praying when it was struck.


Short article so I couldn't quote the whole thing because of DP rules, but best quote:

"The Israeli military has destroyed several mosques during its week-long offensive in Gaza, saying Hamas uses the houses of worship to store weapons."

The moment you start justifying the killing of civilians as legitimate military targets is the moment you stop distinguishing between civilians and enemies. This is total war.

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If Hamas was not storing weapons in Mosques, Schools, and Hospitals, then this issue would not exist.

Hamas brought this attack on themselves. I am sorry for them and the Palestinian people; however, Hamas IS RESPONSIBLE for what is happening.
 
Vader said:
If Hamas was not storing weapons in Mosques, Schools, and Hospitals, then this issue would not exist.
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So attack these locations while people are in them? Why not at night, when no one is the mosque or school?
 
The moment you use a mosque for a planning, staging or weapons storage it becomes a target. Israel has stated it was being used to plan and stage Hamas attacks.

The hamas know this and use it as a weapon.
They know how to wage a propaganda war by causing the deaths of women and children for the Arab tv news to plaster all over the airways.
 
It was NOT on civilians. That is a load of horse ****.

The attack was on Hamas and that places they use to store weapons.
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If you bomb out a Mosque that you know is full of civilians, it doesn't matter why you did it. You knew the civilians were there, you intended to bomb the Mosque, so you intended to kill the civilians, directly or indirectly as "collateral damage".

Then again, you justify that kind of disgusting inhumanity, so I'm not really interested in discussing this with you.

dont stockpile weapons in your holy places of worship
because if you do, it becomes a legitimate military target
i would have rathered they did not destroy it during prayer services though
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First, you are assuming that they actually did so, when there has been no proof of this offered.

Second, even if this was done it doesn't justify the bombing of all Mosques, especially when they are full of civilians. And the fact that you "would have rathered" they not bomb 200 civilians is really telling of your position and your agenda. You obviously don't see these people as human beings.

Calling a propaganda site a propaganda site is NOT an adom attack.

You ARE grasping at straws now.
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Everybody is biased; the question is whether or not the information presented is accurate or not. Instead of attacking the source, work with the information provided. If the site is indeed so biased, and you consider the information posted to be false, then it shouldn't be that hard for you to refute it.

The fact that you choose not to is more telling of your position than of the source of the information provided.

The moment you use a mosque for a planning, staging or weapons storage it becomes a target. Israel has stated it was being used to plan and stage Hamas attacks.
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So the moment one Mosque is used once then all Mosques become legitimate military targets; the fact that it was full of civilians is completely irrelevant to that, because they couldn't wait until it wasn't, right? Or were those people guilty because they went to a Mosque to pray where there could have been weapons? They were all terrorists, right?

Or as Vader would say, all Palestinians are terrorists for voting in Hamas, and so they all deserve to die. Do you really believe that?
 
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Vader said:
I attacked the site and its lack of credibility... I DID NOT attack you.

You jumped the gun.
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You in no way provided any form of evidence to prove my claim wrong. Instead, you attacked the website and ignored the image. Bravo.
 
EgoffTib said:
So attack these locations while people are in them? Why not at night, when no one is the mosque or school?
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How about Israel uses gummy bears as bullets?...........:roll:
 
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Vader said:
I attacked the site and its lack of credibility... I DID NOT attack you.

You jumped the gun.
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I have always taken Ad Hom';s to mean personal attacks
but the definition he supplied backs him up
 
DeeJayH said:
I have always taken Ad Hom';s to mean personal attacks
but the definition he supplied backs him up
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Personal attacks are the most prevalent, but attacking the source rather than the evidence is considered Ad Hom as well.
 
EgoffTib said:
So attack these locations while people are in them? Why not at night, when no one is the mosque or school?
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Dual-use facilities are always occupied. If you militarize any building, it becomes a legitimate target regardless of the hour.
 
I'm going to do something that I never really do because usually I find it highly inappropriate to do, but people here are so caught up in their own political agendas that they are forgetting that they are discussing real actions taking place in the real world with real consequences to real human beings.

So let's bring this situation back into the real world; everyone that says that bombing this was justified, could you please tell me how you justify this:

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I'm not posting this to support my own political agenda; I'm just incredibly sick of people acting so cruel and inhuman on this site (and elsewhere) by completely ignoring the fact that real people are dying and most of them are completely innocent. Please just take that into consideration when you discuss this.

EDIT (in case people think I was being partisan): And in the same vein we must also recognize the converse is true of Hamas' rocket attacks into Israel. Neither of these are justified, and both sides should be condemned outright for the atrocities they have committed.
 
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EgoffTib said:
You did not even attempt to refute my point. I can't say I'm surprised. Here's a cookie, now run along.
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Whats to refute?

A target is a target.....
 
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