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Israeli air strikes target Gaza

He was trying to get elected and Republicans were accusing him of being in bed with terrorists.

I'd say that too.

Do you agree with what he said? Would you do everything in your power to stop rocket attacks on your home?
 
uh, do you think Palestinian people don't say that too?

probably, but Obama was addressing the Jewish Council for Public Affairs so I assume he was refering to rockets being fired into Israel by the terrorist organization Hamas.
 
Do you agree with what he said? Would you do everything in your power to stop rocket attacks on your home?

If there was rockets being fired non stop into S. London because of the political issues surrounding UK and whatever country.

I would move.
 
First you say that Hamas doesn't wants truces, then when I show you that you are wrong, "uhUHuh it's because they are kicked uuhuHUHhu"

If you had read the articles you'd have seen that they wanted the truce before the Israeli raids
Um....
The Israeli raids are a result of Hamas -breaking- the truce...
:confused:
 
If there was rockets being fired non stop into S. London because of the political issues surrounding UK and whatever country.

I would move.

If rockets were being fired into Somaliland by terrorist that wanted all of your people dead would you do what ever it takes to prevent those rocket attacks?
 
If rockets were being fired into Somaliland by terrorist that wanted all of your people dead would you do what ever it takes to prevent those rocket attacks?

Ah, you have to bring Somaliland into it don't you?

Somaliland and Israel is very different. Historically and politically. It cannot be compared.
Somaliland has no sanctions on no other countries [rather Somaliland is the one blocked] or bombs. Or hated by everyone. I'd like to also point out we have only had like 1 war, and that was a civil war too.

But if Somalia bombed Somaliland, then i'd expect the Somaliland President to stop it
 
Ah, you have to bring Somaliland into it don't you?

Somaliland and Israel is very different. Historically and politically. It cannot be compared.
Somaliland has no sanctions on no other countries [rather Somaliland is the one blocked] or bombs. Or hated by everyone. I'd like to also point out we have only had like 1 war, and that was a civil war too.

But if Somalia bombed Somaliland, then i'd expect the Somaliland President to stop it

Thankyou, you answered my question. If Somaliland were being attacked by people that want all of your people dead you would do what ever it takes to stop those attacks
 
Thankyou, you answered my question. If Somaliland were being attacked by people that want all of your people dead you would do what ever it takes to stop those attacks

Not militarily and seeing Somaliland has been peaceful since it declared independence.
If Somaliland was forced to act using weapons [which i would never want]; then everyone would know it is a last resort.

Israel has been in wars and out, attacks in and out. How are we meant to see it was a last resort? You can't.
Besides, if Somalia attacked Somaliland. It wouldn't survive anyway
 
apparently, Israel neither: they refuse any ceasefire:
Perhaps because a cease-fire does not and will not address the problem?
 
Perhaps because a cease-fire does not and will not address the problem?

Perhaps the Hamas said the same when they started launching rockets one week ago
 
Not militarily and seeing Somaliland has been peaceful since it declared independence.
If Somaliland was forced to act using weapons [which i would never want]; then everyone would know it is a last resort.

Israel has been in wars and out, attacks in and out. How are we meant to see it was a last resort? You can't.
Besides, if Somalia attacked Somaliland. It wouldn't survive anyway

So if rockets were falling on your village in Somaliland day after day, hundreds of rockets launched by people that stated there goal was the destruction of Somaliland and the death of all of your people you would not respond militarily? I find that hard to believe.
 
Not militarily and seeing Somaliland has been peaceful since it declared independence.
If Somaliland was forced to act using weapons [which i would never want]; then everyone would know it is a last resort.

Israel has been in wars and out, attacks in and out. How are we meant to see it was a last resort? You can't.
Besides, if Somalia attacked Somaliland. It wouldn't survive anyway

The question did not ask to contrast Somaliland to Israel. Therefore there is no need to mention Israel. Thus the hypothetical is what would you do to prevent terrorist, or military attacks against your country? That is, does a country have the right to use military force as a reaction to acts of aggression, that specifically break a cease fire agreement?

Thus the outcome of any hypothetical misses the point. The issue is whether or not you can rationalize or support the action itself.
 
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Perhaps the Hamas said the same when they started launching rockets one week ago
Tell you what:
You go ahead and keep creating excuses for terrorists.
One of these days, you'll be directly affected by them, and have no one to blame but yourself.
Not that you'll actually DO that, but...
 
Perhaps the Hamas said the same when they started launching rockets one week ago

Hamas have been in breach of the cease fire agreement, several times....

And even if Hamas were retaliating to Israeli aggression, Hamas use of Katusha rockets shows a complete disregard for civilians and is in breach of the rules of war.
 
So if rockets were falling on your village in Somaliland day after day, hundreds of rockets launched by people that stated there goal was the destruction of Somaliland and the death of all of your people you would not respond militarily? I find that hard to believe.

Rockets would never fall on my village because Somalia has no such capacity and never will in its god forsaken lifetime.
Suicide bombing yes, rockets, No.

Somaliland drew itself out of civil war and when Somaliland had control after Somalia killed 50, 000 of my people. Did Somaliland react using weapons? No. We didn't go for revenge which is what makes us better than them so yes, i can safely say military actions would most likely be drawn after every other diplomatic means is used.

As i said, you cannot compare what is happening in Israel to Somaliland.
The difference is too big historically.

Somaliland sure, is surrounded by countries who hate it. Including Arab countries. But Somalis do not want Somalilanders to die, just rejoin with Somalia.
 
Hamas have been in breach of the cease fire agreement, several times....

And even if Hamas were retaliating to Israeli aggression, Hamas use of Katusha rockets shows a complete disregard for civilians and is in breach of the rules of war.
Fool!
Jew-haters can't be bothered with such trivial nonsense!
 
Rockets would never fall on my village because Somalia has no such capacity and never will in its god forsaken lifetime.
Suicide bombing yes, rockets, No.

Somaliland drew itself out of civil war and when Somaliland had control after Somalia killed 50, 000 of my people. Did Somaliland react using weapons? No. We didn't go for revenge which is what makes us better than them so yes, i can safely say military actions would most likely be drawn after every other diplomatic means is used.

As i said, you cannot compare what is happening in Israel to Somaliland.
The difference is too big historically.

Somaliland sure, is surrounded by countries who hate it. Including Arab countries. But Somalis do not want Somalilanders to die, just rejoin with Somalia.

Sgt Rock was not, and did not ask you to make a comparison, he was asking you to engage in a hypothetical. That was designed to engage your philosophical outlook on a nation's right to defend itself. Therefore, your semantics in regards to the factual realities of Somali/Somaliland completely miss what Sgt Rock was trying to ask....
 
No.
Somaliland will not and should never react by killing people if rockets fell on Somaliland.

I don't care how many rockets, you do not react by dropping bombs on them to stop it. Somaliland should stop it but not by the same means.
 
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The entire topic is about Israel :roll:

Both Israel and Hamas broke the ceasefire numerous times during the 6month period.

UN: Israel violated truce 7 times in one week - Israel News, Ynetnews

Neither side has a right to bitch at the other.

I understand that, but you were asked a hypothetical, which by virtue is removed from the factual and is premised on the POSSIBLE.

So I will ask this philosophical question of you. Should a nation be able to use military force to retaliate against acts of aggression that were in breach of a ceasefire?
 
Tell you what:
You go ahead and keep creating excuses for terrorists.
One of these days, you'll be directly affected by them, and have no one to blame but yourself.
Not that you'll actually DO that, but...

oh what a convincing argument: "you are wrong because they are from the other side" :roll:

tell you what: I don't create excuses for Hamas, I explain that Israel is as wrong as them.
 
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