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Israeli air strikes target Gaza

cheat3 said:
Because when you lived in teh ghetto thats how it was right? give me a break, your discussing things you know nothing about.
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Awesome rebuttal.

I know nothing about the anti-snitch culture. :roll:
 
Tashah said:
True enough :rofl

But Blago has never lobbed any rockets at this Jewish gal. ;)
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Blago has never taken somone homeland away and subjugated the loacals through decades to tyrany, torture and international war crimes either...
 
cheat3 said:
Blago has never taken somone homeland away and subjugated the loacals through decades to tyrany, torture and international war crimes either...
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They gambled big time in 1967 and lost big time. Israel, Jordan, and Egypt all recovered. Palestine chose not to.
 
Tashah said:
They gambled big time in 1967 and lost big time. Israel, Jordan, and Egypt all recovered. Palestine chose not to.
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My point exactly, Israel, Jordan, and Egypt all gambled, and the palestinians paied. And i have to disagree, if somone attacks you is it morally acceptable to (after making peace with them) start killing some other people, and torturing them in their own homes, stealing their land, imprisoning their sons.

By this logic, Iraq gambled big time when it attacked iran, so Iran has the moral high ground in punishing otehrs, like Israel.
 
cheat3 said:
My point exactly, Israel, Jordan, and Egypt all gambled, and the palestinians paied. And i have to disagree, if somone attacks you is it morally acceptable to (after making peace with them) start killing some other people, and torturing them in their own homes, stealing their land, imprisoning their sons.

By this logic, Iraq gambled big time when it attacked iran, so Iran has the moral high ground in punishing otehrs, like Israel.
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This thread is about the current Israel/Hamas too-do. Ergo *BN*. Don't derail it. If you want to play the historical blame game, we have an entire Middle East forum available.
 
Tashah said:
This thread is about the current Israel/Hamas too-do. Ergo *BN*. Don't derail it. If you want to play the historical blame game, we have an entire Middle East forum available.
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Well it cannot be easily removed from its historical context but fair enough, noted. I am new here so thanks for the pointer.
 
cheat3 said:
Well it cannot be easily removed from its historical context but fair enough, noted. I am new here so thanks for the pointer.
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Shukhran... ThankQ for your cooperation.
 
But on teh topic, do yo uthink that 1 Israeli death for a reported 280 palestinian deaths is preportional, especially when estimated 1/3 are women and children. The others are mostly government workers, bureacrats, police etc.
 
cheat3 said:
But on teh topic, do yo uthink that 1 Israeli death for a reported 280 palestinian deaths is preportional, especially when estimated 1/3 are women and children. The others are mostly government workers, bureacrats, police etc.
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What does proportional have to do with it?

They hide amongst civilians like cowards. And Israel hits their target. They don't just indiscriminantly fire in a direction.
 
cheat3 said:
But on teh topic, do yo uthink that 1 Israeli death for a reported 280 palestinian deaths is preportional, especially when estimated 1/3 are women and children. The others are mostly government workers, bureacrats, police etc.
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Maybe hamas should consider that before flinging rockets into Israel.
 
bhkad said:
We needn't try to assess whether they are extremist or not. We must assume that most Muslims will behave en masse the same way that Laila has on these pages. A young, bright reasonable Muslim woman will side with the Muslim point of view.

So would most Muslims.
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Muslim has nothing to do with it.
Only the cold hearted can watch children being brought into a Palestinian hospital injured and not feel more sympathy

But say that is true, that a Muslim - Even if 'reasonable' or like me, a relative swinger on one side or the other depending on circumstances. Would the same not be for Jews? Would they not be also more likey to side with Israel over Palestine?
 
Arabs rally against Israeli raids

Thousands of people in the Arab world have attended rallies to express anger at Israel's air raids on the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

Protesters burned Israeli and American flags in a string of Arab cities and demanded a stronger response from their leaders to Israel's "aggression".

In Egypt protests were organised by the Muslim Brotherhood, allies of Hamas.

A suicide bomber blew himself up at a rally in Mosul, northern Iraq, killing a protester and wounding 16.

Local police quoted by the Associated Press said the Mosul demonstration had been organised by the Sunni Iraqi Islamic Party.

"Arab silence is behind the bombings," read a banner held by one of several thousand people who turned out in the Sunni Arab city of Samarra north of Baghdad.
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So true :(
Muslims or Arab, disgraceful time to be either tbh

Britain hardens position on Israel, as world calls for end to violence - Times Online

Could it be the UK Government will condemn? :O



On another note, i went to the London protests infront of the embassy to check it out and it ended up getting real violent
 
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Laila said:
They may as well for the fat lot of difference it does.
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It's not Israel's fault they hide behind women and children. You can't ignore that. You just can't.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
It's not Israel's fault they hide behind women and children. You can't ignore that. You just can't.
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I don't ignore it.
I also don't absolve Israel of all responsibility on their own military aid raids.
 
Laila said:
I don't ignore it.
I also don't absolve Israel of all responsibility on their own military aid raids.
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So you think terrorists should have "safe zones" where they don't have to worry about being fired upon?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
So you think terrorists should have "safe zones" where they don't have to worry about being fired upon?
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When there are more civilians than militants in those areas?

Yeah pretty much, if it saves lives.
 
Laila said:
They may as well for the fat lot of difference it does.
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Whose fault is that?

Clue: The ones who fail to recognize Israel's right to exist and instead keep attacking Israel, thus prompting blockades. And after 80 P*********n rocket attacks on Israel in one day the IDF finally had no other resort than to respond with retaliatory air attacks to make the attacks stop.

Whose fault was it?

The P*********n's.

Guess who.
 
Erm, i can count on one hand the amount of Muslim/Arab countries that recognise Israel offically .... Why only pointing out Palestinians?
 
Laila said:
When there are more civilians than militants in those areas?

Yeah pretty much, if it saves lives.
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Who should care more about Palestinian lives?

The IDF or the Palestinian leadership?

If the Palestinian leadership really cared about saving Palestinian lives what wouldn't they do?

They wouldn't permit thousands of rockets to be launched on Israel.

Duh.
 
Laila said:
When there are more civilians than militants in those areas?

Yeah pretty much, if it saves lives.
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And where will all the rockets fire from?

I say carpet bomb the whole damned area every time they launch a rocket.
 
Laila said:
Erm, i can count on one hand the amount of Muslim/Arab countries that recognise Israel offically .... Why only pointing out Palestinians?
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Because it is the Palestinians who fail to make peace.
Because it is the Palestinians who were suffering from the blockade.
Because it is the Palestinians who began launching rockets on Israel.
Because it is the Palestinians who are being killed by IDF air strikes.
Because it is the Palestinians who you are defending beyond reason.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
So you think terrorists should have "safe zones" where they don't have to worry about being fired upon?
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Might not be a bad idea, Then provide them all with manauls on that goat therapy that Tasha mentioned and let them work out their frustrations.:mrgreen:

Safe zones for terrorists, Yeah right laila. Like they provide safe zones for everybody else.

Moe
 
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