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Taleban threaten to blow up girls’ schools if they refuse to close

Well, then we had no business building such schools or making such promises.

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Alrighty then. No sense restoring equal education that had been forcibly removed by the brutal dictators we ousted. We should have continued to enforce Taliban rules by beating or executing women who left their homes without burkas, and dared believe they were entitled to an education.

Guess I'll just move along then. Nothing to see here. Clearly.
 
I can live with us "forcing our values" on them, if the values are that of equal access to education for both male and female. Its not like we are making them watch reality TV. That, I would not support.
 
:shock:

Alrighty then. No sense restoring equal education that had been forcibly removed by the brutal dictators we ousted. We should have continued to enforce Taliban rules by beating or executing women who left their homes without burkas, and dared believe they were entitled to an education.

Guess I'll just move along then. Nothing to see here. Clearly.

If it doesn't affect us, it's none of our business what other countries do. A lot of places are going to have cultures and customs that we may find appalling. Are we supposed to pin on our "good guy" badge every time someone does something that we don't agree with? I'm sorry, but who the hell are we to be the moral authority figure in the world?
 
If it doesn't affect us, it's none of our business what other countries do. A lot of places are going to have cultures and customs that we may find appalling. Are we supposed to pin on our "good guy" badge every time someone does something that we don't agree with? I'm sorry, but who the hell are we to be the moral authority figure in the world?

Nobody is telling them they can't make those fantastic rugs anymore. Just let the women get an education if they want to. You really have to wonder just what kind of culture is threatened by that. And it would seem more immoral to me, to stand by and say "Well **** them, it doesn't affect us". If somebody gets run over by a car, it doesn't affect me, but I feel morally obligate to throw my "good guy" badge on, and help the person.
 
Nobody is telling them they can't make those fantastic rugs anymore. Just let the women get an education if they want to. You really have to wonder just what kind of culture is threatened by that. And it would seem more immoral to me, to stand by and say "Well **** them, it doesn't affect us". If somebody gets run over by a car, it doesn't affect me, but I feel morally obligate to throw my "good guy" badge on, and help the person.

And that's fine. I realize a lot of people don't share my views on the subject.
 
And that's fine. I realize a lot of people don't share my views on the subject.

Actually, more do than don't, from my perspective. I feel like mine is the less popular view, on this forum anyway.
 
If it doesn't affect us, it's none of our business what other countries do. A lot of places are going to have cultures and customs that we may find appalling. Are we supposed to pin on our "good guy" badge every time someone does something that we don't agree with? I'm sorry, but who the hell are we to be the moral authority figure in the world?

It did affect us with 9/11.

We do have the authority to remove aggressive rogue nations that attack us. After that government is removed (as was the Taleban) they no longer have the authority to demand anything.

Your argument has nothing to do with Afghanistan and why we are there.
 
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It did affect us with 9/11.

We do have the authority to remove aggressive rogue nations that attack us. After that government is removed (as was the Taleban) they no longer have the authority to demand anything.

Your argument has nothing to do with Afghanistan and why we are there.

What exactly does the act of them threatening to blow up girls' schools have to do with 9/11? All of my comments in this thread are in regards to Rev. Hellhound's comments about us meddling in the affairs of foreign nations.
 
The Taliban wants schools set up for boys first.

Then later girls schools will be allowed. As there was before ?

That is their culture. You call that culture, I call it utter mean-ness and hatred..Moderate Islam should become involved.

The West should back off and leave them alone.
No, the Taliban should return to the rocks and caves, from whence they came...
 
What exactly does the act of them threatening to blow up girls' schools have to do with 9/11?

We removed the Taliban from power. We invaded Afghanistan to specifically remove the Taliban because of it's involvement with 9/11. So we do have a vested interest in protecting the assets we helped build for the new government.

All of my comments in this thread are in regards to Rev. Hellhound's comments about us meddling in the affairs of foreign nations.

I replied to a direct response you made to DiAnna.

"If it doesn't affect us, it's none of our business what other countries do. A lot of places are going to have cultures and customs that we may find appalling. Are we supposed to pin on our "good guy" badge every time someone does something that we don't agree with? I'm sorry, but who the hell are we to be the moral authority figure in the world?" - dclxvinoise

Afghanistan does indeed affect us, and it started with 9/11.
 
Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that this particular act has nothing to do with us.

The Taliban are not the government of Afghanistan. The US military is working WITH the legitimate government of Afghanistan in order to eliminate the Taliban and Al Qaeda scourage from Central Asia. If we don't, they will come back and hit the US and Europe again... and again... and again...
 
I can live with us "forcing our values" on them, if the values are that of equal access to education for both male and female. Its not like we are making them watch reality TV. That, I would not support.

Well, except for the Amazing Race of course. What better way to see Americans looking stupid in foreign countries where few people speak English. ;)
 
This threat is enough justification for us to walk into afghanistan and slaughter every Talibani we find. I also think that as a threat to the ones we don't find, we leave the corpses staked out in the desert for the birds to pick clean and snipe them off when they come to retrieve their dead.
 
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Alrighty then. No sense restoring equal education that had been forcibly removed by the brutal dictators we ousted. We should have continued to enforce Taliban rules by beating or executing women who left their homes without burkas, and dared believe they were entitled to an education.

Guess I'll just move along then. Nothing to see here. Clearly.
I just don't see how you expect to ever be taken seriously as a political commentator if you keep taking these stands for responsibility and noble intent.
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This threat is enough justification for us to walk into afghanistan and slaughter every Talibani we find. I also think that as a threat to the ones we don't find, we leave the corpses staked out in the desert for the birds to pick clean and snipe them off when they come to retrieve their dead.
I'm impressed!
 
I say we just bomb a mosque for every person they cause the death of... and I don't mean give warning before we do it.

Mind you, we would probably run out of mosques before fanatics, but they would probably all group to getter to riot and I'm sure we'd have a few bombs to spare then.

Then when muslims in other countries start to riot we can do a preemptive strike on them as well.

Aw heck , when they come out to protest here in the USA ... well can you say target practice?

I mean.. if they really want to take this Jihad s#!t seriously, we can show em how it's done properly.
 
I say we just bomb a mosque for every person they cause the death of... and I don't mean give warning before we do it.

Mind you, we would probably run out of mosques before fanatics, but they would probably all group to getter to riot and I'm sure we'd have a few bombs to spare then.

Then when muslims in other countries start to riot we can do a preemptive strike on them as well.

Aw heck , when they come out to protest here in the USA ... well can you say target practice?

I mean.. if they really want to take this Jihad s#!t seriously, we can show em how it's done properly.

Excuse me?
Im still trying to judge whether this is a serious post or not
 
Excuse me?
Im still trying to judge whether this is a serious post or not

I don't know, but I kinda liked it. The radical Muslims keep attacking with impunity because we are fighting with both hands behind our backs. If we REALLY do what is needed to win, this is exactly what we would do.
 
I don't know, but I kinda liked it. The radical Muslims keep attacking with impunity because we are fighting with both hands behind our backs. If we REALLY do what is needed to win, this is exactly what we would do.

Bomb our Mosques is going to stop terrorism? :/

Re read that and actually think on it.
 
Bomb our Mosques is going to stop terrorism? :/

Re read that and actually think on it.

Well do you think bombing our schools, our trade centers, our civilian gathering places and threatening the liberties we hold dear with promises of riots are going to stop us?

I don't think bombing mosques is a good way to go but I would like to see the West take a more hardline approach to dealing with unruly Muslims when they get out of hand. I see no reason for us to keep playing nice when the extremists aren't playing by any rules at all. Bunch of subhuman barbarians.
 
Americans are more of a threat to their own liberties than terrorists will ever be.

The trick is the balance, bombing Mosques shows it does not distinguish a difference of extremists or moderates but rather is attackin the religion.
 
Americans are more of a threat to their own liberties than terrorists will ever be.

I'm aware of this. I just wish the extremists that indulge terrorism would wake up and smell the coffee on the issue.

The trick is the balance, bombing Mosques shows it does not distinguish a difference of extremists or moderates but rather is attackin the religion.

I agree with this, too. However, I think that once the extremists decide to hide their arms in a mosque, the mosque ceases to be a place of worship and becomes fair game to strategic strikes. Maybe when the moderates face the hardships caused by their extremist kin, they might be more conducive to the idea of standing up to them.
 
Bomb our Mosques is going to stop terrorism? :/

Re read that and actually think on it.

Give me a break. It doesn't matter what the West does right now. The Muslims have declared jihad against the West. At least the radicals have. Peace overtures will not work. That being the case, why not take the war to those who started it?
 
Give me a break. It doesn't matter what the West does right now. The Muslims have declared jihad against the West. At least the radicals have. Peace overtures will not work. That being the case, why not take the war to those who started it?

Now we are on Jihad.
The last pure Jihad, the last true Islamic Jihad was fought against the christians hundreds of years ago in the crusades. No true Jihad has been called since
 
I'm aware of this. I just wish the extremists that indulge terrorism would wake up and smell the coffee on the issue.

I agree with this, too. However, I think that once the extremists decide to hide their arms in a mosque, the mosque ceases to be a place of worship and becomes fair game to strategic strikes. Maybe when the moderates face the hardships caused by their extremist kin, they might be more conducive to the idea of standing up to them.

Terrorists are exactly that for a reason, they do not care about the issue but how to use it to their advantage.

Seeing its Moderates that are in the front line of defensive not US, I beg to differ. Americans are safe an ocean away but the moderates in Pakistan, Iraq and other Muslim countries trying to prevent extremists do not have that luxury
 
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