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Iranian president to deliver Channel 4's (UK) alternative Christmas message

As I said before, there would be war if the US was not Israel's chief ally. Israel has been at war for most of its existence and proven many times its resilience.
Israel only has to lose once.

Then the land will go back to it's rightful owners.
 
Israel only has to lose once.

Then the land will go back to it's rightful owners.

1.) Both the Israelis and the Palestinians are decended from the Cananites. The Cananites are the ORIGINAL owners of that land; therefore, both are entitled to be there.

Kindly spew your crap elsewhere.
 
The only problem with your post is that it hasn't been merely a call to abloish Israel, but rather to "wipe it off the map."

Now, maybe you believe that such a call includes a provision that Isrealis will receive 72 hours notice to get the hell out of Israel before Iran nukes them, but I don't.

Why are you so charitable towards terror-sponsoring dictators that are calling not only to eliminate Israel and wipe her off the map but also threatens other Middle East nations with nuclear attack if their recognize Israel or deal with her?

Well?

I believe it was rhetoric, if you know anything about Iran its that the president is not in control of the military or foreign policy.

McCain's once said his solution to Iran was to bomb them, I don't seriously believe him just because he said it. Why you hold some people (your perceived enemies) and let others (allies) slide as getting caught in the moment or joking is beyond me.
 
Sure ... let a terrorist give a Christmas address.

So sad.

it's not surprising that the USA have got so many problems understanding the rest of the world, if they don't even bother listening to what the other people say.
 
1.) Both the Israelis and the Palestinians are decended from the Cananites. The Cananites are the ORIGINAL owners of that land; therefore, both are entitled to be there.

90% of the Israeli Jews are Ashkenazi Jews.

They decended from the Kazars of central Russia who converted to Judiasm.

Their forefathers never were in or from Israel. They have zero connection to the Canaanites.

Most of the Ashkenazi Jews came to Israel from europe After WWII.
 
1.) Both the Israelis and the Palestinians are decended from the Cananites. The Cananites are the ORIGINAL owners of that land; therefore, both are entitled to be there.

I'm surprised that you agree with that. Good news!
 
He certainly never called for the extermination of any group of people in the Middle East.

WRONG.

I suggest you check your sources beacuse you are WRONG and you should be ashamed of yourself for spewing such utter nonsense.

Claiming Israel is an illegitimate state which should cease to exist is not the same as calling for the death of it population. If you ever choose to educate yourself on this issue you will find his positions on the Israeli-Palestinian issue are easily available and involve all the people in the region surviving and living in peace with one another.

1. Iran called for the destruction if Israel. You need to quit stop being an Iran spin doctor. It's shameful and it makes you and your entire country look bad. SHAME ON YOU.

2. His position on the Israel/Palestine situation is to fund a number of terrorist groups (most notably Islamic Jihad and Hezballah) to attack Israel. So... please spare me your bull**** attempts to make what Aminajackoff said seem less threating then it was.

3.) I think YOU need to educate YOURSELF on the government of Iran. They are the world's leading state sponsor of terror and terrorists.

For you to claim otherwise is just plain ignorant. It's shamefully ignorant and seems almost like the conduct of a terror apologist.

Those elections were by no means perfect, nor have I ever claimed otherwise. They did however represent a broad enough portion of the Iranian population to bring over half of them to the polls. To claim a person who competes in competitive election and shares power with both a legislative and "religious" branch of government is a despot, shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the word.

To sit that and claim that Iran's government is anything less than a bastion of fundementalist islamic tyranny is just ignorant. Again, this smells of apologistic bull**** ... which is why everybody with a brain on the forum has called you on it.

The US state department used to charecterized Iraq as a democracy? I knew US bureaucracy's aren't that highly regarded, but I didn't know the situation was the dire!

The only dire thing here is your complete lack of understanding of the true nature of the terrorist government of Iran.

For your reference, not less than SIX of the survivors of the Iran hostage crisis of 79/80 PERSONALLY IDENTIFIED Aminajackoff as one of their captors. This is an UNDENIABLE like to terrorist activity on the part of the mock president of an islam-o-terrorist country.

I suggest you stop your apologistic bull****, educate yourself on Iran, Syria, Islam-o-facism, and the true nature of Islam-o-theocracy.

Until you do... the mindless apologisitic prattle your spew will be ignored.
 
I'm surprised that you agree with that. Good news!

Indeed.

Now the Palestinains need to be told to accept it and shut their foul pipes.

Live and let live ... or the Palestinians can continually draw retaliation that will eventually mean their end.
 
90% of the Israeli Jews are Ashkenazi Jews.

They decended from the Kazars of central Russia who converted to Judiasm.

Their forefathers never were in or from Israel. They have zero connection to the Canaanites.

Most of the Ashkenazi Jews came to Israel from europe After WWII.


Wrong.

More mindless anti-semtic rhetoric.

The jews lived on that land before Rome stole it. They simply returned after an absence and rejoined their ancestors.

Learn to like it.

Also ... please do not spew your propaganda here.

Go spew it on iloveterrorisism.com.
 
90% of the Israeli Jews are Ashkenazi Jews.

They decended from the Kazars of central Russia who converted to Judiasm.

Their forefathers never were in or from Israel. They have zero connection to the Canaanites.

Most of the Ashkenazi Jews came to Israel from europe After WWII.


Wrong.

More mindless anti-semtic rhetoric.

The jews lived on that land before Rome stole it. They simply returned after an absence and rejoined their ancestors.

Learn to like it.

Also ... please do not spew your propaganda here.

Go spew it on iloveterrorisism.com.
 
Israel is already a failed nation. It only survives because of hand outs from the U.S.

Ahmadinejad is just pointing out the obvious.

As more and more countries see Israel for the evil and rogue state that it is.

Israel will become isolated to the point that it will collaspe and the Zionist rulers will be driven from office and arrested for crimes against humanity.

The only failed nations are those still governed by Islam.

Theocracy failed and EVERYBODY BUT THE ISLAMIC NATIONS SEEM TO REALIZE THIS FACT.

Wake up, learn to think for yourself, stop being a brainwashed Islam-o-puppet, and learn the truth.

Until then ... all of your posts will be dismissed as the prattle of a brainwashed islam-o-nazi puppet.
 
The only failed nations are those still governed by Islam.

Theocracy failed and EVERYBODY BUT THE ISLAMIC NATIONS SEEM TO REALIZE THIS FACT.

Wake up, learn to think for yourself, stop being a brainwashed Islam-o-puppet, and learn the truth.

Until then ... all of your posts will be dismissed as the prattle of a brainwashed islam-o-nazi puppet.

Ahmedinejad is awesome and so are islam-o-nazi puppets.
 
Ahmedinejad is one of the Great leaders of the world today.

He isn't afraid to tell the truth.

History will prove that what he is saying will come to pass.
 
Ahmedinejad is one of the Great leaders of the world today.

He isn't afraid to tell the truth.

History will prove that what he is saying will come to pass.


This .... coming for the same confused Islam-o-puppet who denied the existence of the holocaust.

You have ZERO credibility and NOTHING you say can be taken seriously.
 
Then what does he mean he says he intends to rid the Middle East of Israel, to wipe her off the map?

Israel is not a state like most others in the world. It was state founded by immigrants against the wishes of the native people of the land. On top of this, it was not founded for the for the people who live within its geographic borders like most states. It was instead designed to be a state for all of the Jewish people, a people who had been scattered all over the world for centuries. For this state to be established it was neccesary to displace hundreds of thousands of the native populace.

When Ahmadinejad talks of wiping Israel off the map he is essentially saying two things. Firstly that all of the people who were displaced by Israel's creation should be allowed to return to their homes, Secondly, that the idea of partitioning Palestine should be scrapped and that instead all of the people in the holy land should live together as equals, in one state. Under this arrangement all of the Jews who live in the region would be free to remain there and be guaranteed protection. Jews born in New York and Moscow however, would not automatically qualify for citizenship, they would however be welcome to undergo standard immigration procedures. This would end the "Jewish character" of Israel and so signal the end of a Zionist state. When Ahmadinejad talks of Israel he normally uses the phrase "Zionist entity", in order to delegitimise it. The arrangements which I have described and Ahmadinjad has called for would destroy the Zionist entity in the Middle East.

To add further context, the now infamous quote about Israel being "wiped off the map" came during a discussion of something Khomeini said many years earlier. Khomeini also viewed Israel as an illegitmate state and he would not allow Iran to have any formal relations with it(although they had some very significant informal relations!). There was another state in the world Khomeini viewed as illegitimate and refused relation with, that state was apartheid South Africa. Khomeini also called for the end of the oppressive white government, he did not however call for the "extermination" of all white South Africans, instead he said Whites, Blacks and others should live peacefully with each other as equals in one state. Ahmadinejad is calling for the same with Israel, except replace Whites and Blacks with Jews, Muslims and Christians.

Yeah, that's democracy...

A western style democracy is not practical for Iran; it would be contrary to the political views of so many in the country as to be paradoxical. It would also be open to exploitation by foreign powers. What you do have in Iran is active political participation from a large portion of the populace, many of whom disagree over important issues. It should be noted that since 1979 there has been tremendous change in the country, this change occurred in the framework of the current political system. Iran has became more liberal over the years and given the average age of Iran's population, this is something I think will continue in the future. It will however retain its Islamic characeter for the forseeable future, this is down to the role Islam plays in Iran's society as opposed to a few evil, oppresive mullahs. The barrier to this liberalisation, which hopefully will see Iran begin to resemble "western" states in many ways, is undoubtedly foreign interference, something which gives hardliners and skeptics opportunities to denounce liberalisers for placing the country in danger.

It's interesting to note that the most popular parties emerging in Iraq today, SIIC for example, are hugely influenced by the Iranian form of governance. Indeed within a decade I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that Iraq's form of government resembles Irans. This type of government would probably be better for the Middle East in the long run than the current strongmen and despots who controll most states in the Middle East.

More from Taheri about the so-called "democracy" in Iran:

If you want to learn about Iran I would suggest avoiding a disgraced, exiled Iranian neo-conservative who enjoyed life in Iran under the Shah!
 
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This fetish with avoiding any and all prejudice is nauseating. Just more of the national suicide...errr...multiculturalism nonsense that substitutes distinctions between right and wrong with feel-good moral relativity and equivalencies.

I'm certainly prejudiced against terror-sponsoring dictators that favor annihilating Israel.

Aren't you?

Or do you and others think terror-sponsoring dictators who want to annihilate other countries are just misunderstood?

This place reeks of this feel-good nonsense. Grow a backbone.

I have a backbone, i just show common sense.
The Government will not and should not interfer with what a channel decides to do.

If you want to watch it, tune in.
If not, change the channel.
It is a simple solution.

Btw, what does multi culturalism have to do with what C4 does?
 
Israel is not a state like most others in the world. It was state founded by immigrants against the wishes of the native people of the land.

Gee....I know of another country that was formed the same way, the one where all those states, united.
 
Gee....I know of another country that was formed the same way, the one where all those states, united.

The USA however became an inclusive state, one in which anyone was welcome, indeed encouraged, to assimilate into.
 
I'm an islam-o-puppet now, though, right? Or a terrorist lover? I always wanted to be those when I grew up.

You crack me up, Khayebii.

:)

I do not understand how you can argue in favor of those of whom we are speaking.

:shock:
 
I'm quite sure Isreal would be a little more welcoming if a certain percentage of the new residences didn't come with a bomb strapped to them to fight some cause their brainwashed with...so they can get rewarded with a few virgins in the after life.

If Iran had a nuke to offer (to sneak to a group and deny it) these fanatics would jump at the chance to drive a nuclear car bomb into Isreal! And maybe be rewarded with a few more bonus virgins.:doh
 
I do not understand how you can argue in favor of those of whom we are speaking.

Well, Vader, this is generally how our conversations go:

Vader: [Ahmedinejad/Hizb'allah/Hamas/whatever] did/said/bombed/etc... [some place/thing]!!!!
KC: Actually, that's not true, and here is information to back up what I am saying.
Vader: You are a [terrorist sympathizer/islam-o-puppet/insert random insult usually regarding terrorism or Muslims here]!!!

Generally I'm not even defending anything, just pointing out where you're incorrect, and in the end you do what you do. So I figured I might as well skip all that this time. :lol:
 
I'm quite sure Isreal would be a little more welcoming if a certain percentage of the new residences didn't come with a bomb strapped to them to fight some cause their brainwashed with...so they can get rewarded with a few virgins in the after life.

If Iran had a nuke to offer (to sneak to a group and deny it) these fanatics would jump at the chance to drive a nuclear car bomb into Isreal! And maybe be rewarded with a few more bonus virgins.:doh

So which politically charged book did you get your blind prejudice from?
 
You dare put words in the mouth of the Son of God? What hubris.

ya... he tore down corrupt churches and put um back up clean as a whistle. Yet this is considered putting words in his mouth? Judging how you think he would act and making up false words are completely different. The church tells you to wait for the messiah. Jesus says any man may do what I do and more.
 
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