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Obama's new pastor controversy -- at inauguration

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Source: Reuters UK
Date: Dec. 19, 2008

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - U.S. President-elect Barack Obama has chosen a pastor who opposes gay marriage as a speaker at his inauguration, creating a commotion over what inclusiveness will mean for his administration.

Obama chose Rick Warren, the evangelical pastor of the Southern California megachurch Saddleback, to give the invocation when he takes office in January. A gay rights advocate called the pick appalling.

Rick Warren will give the invocation at the Obama inauguration.

Obama's new pastor controversy -- at inauguration | Reuters

Rick Warren is a pro-life anti gay marriage evangelical. He advocated prop 8 ban on gay marriage in California. The gay and liberal community are furious with Obama for this choice.

Why is this such a surprise to the gay community? After all Obama is a Christian and during the presidential debates and throughout his career he has continually said that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

In an Interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune Barrack Obama said
"I’m a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman".

On Aug 16, 2008 at the Saddleback Presidential Debate Obama said
"Marriage is a union between a man and a woman. I support civil unions for gay partners, giving them rights such as hospital visits with one another"
he also said " Jesus died for my sins"
 
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This story has taken over the blogosphere. This is a good place for all of you libs and gays to vent your anger at Obama. Politico and the Huffington Post are ready to impeach Obama and he hasn't even taken office yet.

Rick Warren and Obama have been friends for years.Obama admires the work Warren has done for AIDS in Africa. So what if he is a homophobe all the gays are going to hell anyway. Im being facetious dont get your man panties in a wad.
 
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Anger gays but throw evangelicals a bone while not using his newly attained position of power to back or oppose domestic issues. Political genius.
 
The title is misleading (not the fault of the Original Poster because that is the title) . But this is is not Obama's new personal pastor.

This guy is just a choice at the inaugural top give a speech, nothing more.
 
He knows what he's doing. Whatever one may say of him, he is a man who understands the political ramifications of his words and actions. He is attempting to further establish himself as a centrist. The gay community will forgive him, I think.
 
He knows what he's doing. Whatever one may say of him, he is a man who understands the political ramifications of his words and actions. He is attempting to further establish himself as a centrist. The gay community will forgive him, I think.

I agree. Seeing him in action, its easy to see why this guy rose so quickly in prominience. He knows his audience....
 
The title is misleading (not the fault of the Original Poster because that is the title) . But this is is not Obama's new personal pastor.

This guy is just a choice at the inaugural top give a speech, nothing more.


He is giving the invocation, and he is a personal friend of Barrack Obama, and there is more. Obama is anti gay marriage. So all those people that are up in arms and protesting over prop 8 passing in California who voted for Obama are feeling betrayed. Go read the liberal blogs, there pissed at Obama.
 
Lots of contoversy, Blagojevich, Conservative cabnet choices, Dr Warren and he hasn't even taken office yet. This is going to be an intresting 4 years.
 
Source: Reuters UK
Date: Dec. 19, 2008



Rick Warren will give the invocation at the Obama inauguration.

Obama's new pastor controversy -- at inauguration | Reuters

Rick Warren is a pro-life anti gay marriage evangelical. He advocated prop 8 ban on gay marriage in California. The gay and liberal community are furious with Obama for this choice.

Why is this such a surprise to the gay community? After all Obama is a Christian and during the presidential debates and throughout his career he has continually said that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

In an Interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune Barrack Obama said
"I’m a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman".

On Aug 16, 2008 at the Saddleback Presidential Debate Obama said
"Marriage is a union between a man and a woman. I support civil unions for gay partners, giving them rights such as hospital visits with one another"
he also said " Jesus died for my sins"

The "gay community"? what the heck?!

Let the people who commit incest to create their "community" and let them protest of be concerned against the choosing of such a pastor by Obama. Will you care?

What is going on here?

Obama has the whole right to decide who is the best person to represent the religious participation in accord to his personal beliefs, why people will object his decision? Isn't religious freedom allowed in this country anymore or what?

If gays are against Obama's beliefs which are known before he got elected president, the best they can do to solve their frustration is to become straight.:lol:
 
Isn't religious freedom allowed in this country anymore or what?

Freedom of religion doesn't mean people are not allowed to protest decisions. Obama is free to choose who he wants, and people are free to protest it. That's the wonderful thing about the first amendment. Freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

Tell me where he is being "forced" to do anything?
 
Let the people who commit incest to create their "community" and let them protest of be concerned against the choosing of such a pastor by Obama.

So now you claim the gay community commits incest? What world do you live in?
 
This story has taken over the blogosphere. This is a good place for all of you libs and gays to vent your anger at Obama. Politico and the Huffington Post are ready to impeach Obama and he hasn't even taken office yet.

Rick Warren and Obama have been friends for years.Obama admires the work Warren has done for AIDS in Africa. So what if he is a homophobe all the gays are going to hell anyway. Im being facetious dont get your man panties in a wad.

Could have been worse for the gay community, he could have asked a Mormon to do the invocation...:lol:
 
Freedom of religion doesn't mean people are not allowed to protest decisions. Obama is free to choose who he wants, and people are free to protest it. That's the wonderful thing about the first amendment. Freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

Tell me where he is being "forced" to do anything?

So, Catholics will "protest" because I'm Jewish or Baptist will "protest" because you are Muslim...according to your point...excuse me with with all my respect your point is peanuts.

Freedom of religion is that you are fee to believe in a god the want you see is the best for you, and having someone "protesting" because your religious choice is nuts.

One thing is "opinion" about something, which can carry positive or negative criticism, and a different thing is watching how some dudes "protest" with the meaning of rejecting Obama's choice as his religious representative in his inauguration in order to put theirs instead.

What, do you really want a man dressed like a woman, talking with sissy accent and blessing the inauguration throwing flower petals over him? Come on!...:lol:
 
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So now you claim the gay community commits incest? What world do you live in?

Tell me, what is the difference at last between incest and homophilia?

Both are negative sexual behaviors in conjunction with necrophilia, zoophilia, sodomy, etc.

The human body in its two genders is made in that way that male and female can have intercourse for breeding or pleasure purposes. Now well, there are also moral laws created by men which rule what is allowed and what is not allowed to be recognized officially, and if you reject incest you are automatically rejecting homophilia even when you say no.

If one of the negative behaviors is approved by you, you are accepting that the rest of negative behaviors are all right as well.

So, what kind of society we are living in? With people trying to approve homophilia officially we are in a deep down falling, we better educate people teaching that the negative sexual behaviors mentioned above might be the choice of someones in our society but that such choice must never be approved officially.
 
I thought Biden made clear during the VP debate that the Obama Administration opposed gay marriage but supported gay rights?
 
Aye, I remember being shocked by it. Still, though, if they made clear their opposition to gay marriage then the liberals who voted for him should hardly be having a wee cry when he keeps company like this. People need to learn how to listen.
 
This Pastor is a great speaker and will attract the more conservative. I have attended a few Sunday's at the church. It's actually more of a stadium then a church and has a huge glass wall on one side.

It's a brilliant choice by Obama to cross the party lines. Gays may hate him for choosing this pastor but they will soon see this pastor's political views on gays has nothing to do with the speech he will give and have zero impact on the gay community as a whole.

I thought Biden made clear during the VP debate that the Obama Administration opposed gay marriage but supported gay rights?

Obama said something similar during one of the Presidential debates.
 
This Pastor is a great speaker and will attract the more conservative. I have attended a few Sunday's at the church. It's actually more of a stadium then a church and has a huge glass wall on one side.

It's a brilliant choice by Obama to cross the party lines. Gays may hate him for choosing this pastor but they will soon see this pastor's political views on gays has nothing to do with the speech he will give and have zero impact on the gay community as a whole.



Obama said something similar during one of the Presidential debates.

The Pastor hopefully will not be setting policy.
 
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