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Harris is the VP pick for Biden

Conservative said:
And neither she or you were alive then and you cannot change history but you try and distort it as if it matters today, Keep ignoring the 13th Amendment Passed under a Republican Administration and the civil rights legislation passed in the 1960's with massive Republican support, this thread is about Harris so why don't you tell us what she brings to the table that you support and will make this country stronger?
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The very things you are citing were PROGRESSIVE, LIBERAL and RADICAL concepts, the LIBERATION of the individual. You keep IGNORANTLY stamping the concepts with political party labels, you and I have discussed this a million times. The ultra-conservative Republicans of 2020 are NOT RADICAL PROGRESSIVE Republicans of the 1860's. The LIBERAL Democrats of 2020 are not slave holding conservative Democrats of the 1860's. You like so many right-wingers just have no concept of the historical changes that have happened in the US......yet here you are, trying and failing at showing your grasp of history.
 
jakiejakester said:
LOL! You really think that Obama only won because of Palin?
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McCain lost a lot of Republican support because of her. I don't know if Obama won because of it, but McCain sure did lose some support he would have had.
 
nota bene said:
No, sir, she supports late-term abortion, which a majority of Americans oppose.
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What I don't understand is how devout Catholic Biden could support *anyone* who would support this? :shrug:
 
Deuce said:
It's important to remember that most of the country does not consist on politics nerds like us here on this forum. "Despised by independents" just isn't true.
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How about anybody that has had personal experience, or know somebody that has, with the criminal justice system.

Do you think that is a lot of people?
 
Paradoxical said:
Ever seen that as a promise by even one Republican? Yet, the Democrats can get away with being overtly racist and sexist with impunity and you clap? Seriously?
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Did you see the hypocrisy in Threegoofs post?

Who had only old white males running for President this time around?
 
Mason66 said:
Show me where you think I fear anything or anyone.

I don't care what color her skin is or what she has between her legs. She kept innocent people in prison to protect her winning record.

If that can't be considered a piece of ****, then nothing can.
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It appears that it is business as usual. Some refuse to comment on the issues and resort to lobbing identity politics instead.
 
jakiejakester said:
He was divorced. Your lies are so easy to prove as lies. Why can't you debate with the truth? Plus, how can any Trump Lemming bring up another candidates private sex life when Trump has literally paid women not to reveal his affairs? Pathetic post....
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Brown was not divorced, just separated.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
The very things you are citing were PROGRESSIVE, LIBERAL and RADICAL concepts, the LIBERATION of the individual. You keep IGNORANTLY stamping the concepts with political party labels, you and I have discussed this a million times. The ultra-conservative Republicans of 2020 are NOT RADICAL PROGRESSIVE Republicans of the 1860's. The LIBERAL Democrats of 2020 are not slave holding conservative Democrats of the 1860's. You like so many right-wingers just have no concept of the historical changes that have happened in the US......yet here you are, trying and failing at showing your grasp of history.
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So you tell me what Harris policies aren't leftwing radical and will be supported by the independents in this country? This is the candidate and policies that you support, how do you sell Independents on programs that won't benefit them?

A Vote For Biden Puts Far-Left Kamala Harris In Line To Be President — Scared Yet? – Issues & Insights

She supports, among other things: the economy-killing Green New Deal, Medicare for All (ending private health insurance), open borders, late-term abortions (whether states want it or not), and the confiscation of private weapons (the death of the 2nd Amendment).

Even progressives have serious issues with Harris, in particular her record as attorney general in California where she incurred the ire of leftists by steadfastly opposing justice reform in the Golden State.

As Loyola Law School professor Lara Bazelton wrote in a scathing New York Times op-ed, Harris fought “tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors.”
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Conservative said:
CDC is under HHS and that certainly hasn't been defunded!! why do we need another bureaucracy within a bureaucracy?
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Makes no sense? Based on your "logic" why have the CDC at all? Are you anti-CDC? What's your latest conspiracy theory about them?
 
jakiejakester said:
So what if he feels now is the time to have a woman of color as his running mate. It's a savvy move and it's about time our country moved into the 21st century. Sorry that the GOP only have old white men - think about it? The only woman who has been on a GOP presidential ticket is Sarah Palin maybe the least qualified and most stupid possible woman the GOP could have found. Palin vs. Harris would be an amazing debate...actually Trump vs. Palin would be entertaining...Dumb and Dumber
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Please tell us all here why you think it is a savvy move to have a black woman as a running mate.
 
chuckiechan said:
It’s simple: “Joe, listen to me. Here is your VP pick.”
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I'll buy that, but don't these far leftist puppeteers realize that this one issue could sink Biden's bid for president?
Especially since he has played his hand, and gives us hints that he might not even finish his first term if elected.
 
Conservative said:
And you are a liberal buying rhetoric and ignoring results, when was the last time California had a GOP Legislature?
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Again, Harris didn't destroy CA. Yer gunna need a different line of attack on her.


Most of the problems in this country were created by liberals and their entitlement mentality, a mentality that you display daily.
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Again, liberals didn't create slavery, we are still dealing with that legacy.

What allowed this country to really accelerate was the creation of the middle class, and that was entirely based on progressive/liberal concepts like 40 hr weeks, min wage, the ending of child labor and the creation of socialized primary/secondary education.


Waiting for you to tell us what Biden/Harris are going to do to make this country stronger and your life better because obviously the pre pandemic results didn't do it
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We aren't living in the pre-pandemic past. The Orange Asshole has failed on every level, he allowed the pandemic to rage out of controlled, he failed at providing a defense against a foreign enemy, to provide for the general welfare.

He is fired!
 
jakiejakester said:
Makes no sense? Based on your "logic" why have the CDC at all? Are you anti-CDC? What's your latest conspiracy theory about them?
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Makes all the sense in the world, HHS controls CDC so why does there have to be a separate bureaucracy? You really have no idea how our gov't works do you? Elimination of the pandemic response team doesn't mean elimination of CDC or HHS. Big gov't liberals always look for ways to spend more money. You tell me what the pandemic team would have done that was Constitutional? Seems it is easy placing blame but not so easy to accept responsibility.
 
trixare4kids said:
What I don't understand is how devout Catholic Biden could support *anyone* who would support this? :shrug:
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I have to question the term "devout." Just as there are secular Jews, there are cultural Catholics. The distinction is made between practicing Catholics and cultural Catholics, and like Schwarzenegger, Pelosi, and Kerry, he is not a practicing Catholic.

From Catholic.org:

Unfortunately, the term practicing Catholic is bit squishy (or vague or ambiguous as lawyers might say) and subject to abuse by all manner of Catholics (in name only) who seek to justify their various stances

The person who claims to be a practicing Catholic while not giving at least religious submission of intellect and will to the all Church's teaching, including that related to the ordination of women, artificial contraception, abortion, and homosexuality (to pick a few of the hot-button issues) is being disingenuous. These moral teachings are part of the "standards of excellence" that are part of the Catholic practice. Without at least religious submission of intellect and will to these and similar teachings, one can be many things, but one thing one cannot be is a practicing Catholic. What Does it Really Mean to be a Practicing Catholic? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online
 
Gimmesometruth;1072446071]Again, Harris didn't destroy CA. Yer gunna need a different line of attack on her.
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Harris's liberal policies have indeed destroyed California unless you believe that the results I posted show success


Again, liberals didn't create slavery, we are still dealing with that legacy.
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No, liberals just promote racism, division, politics of personal destruction, class envy, jealousy, and hatred, certainly no economic policies that make any sense. People will always vote their pocketbooks and that doesn't bode well for Biden/Harris

What allowed this country to really accelerate was the creation of the middle class, and that was entirely based on progressive/liberal concepts like 40 hr weeks, min wage, the ending of child labor and the creation of socialized primary/secondary education.
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Equal opportunity accelerates economic prosperity and creates upward movement, liberal policies destroy incentive and keep people enslaved. You live in a liberal bubble clueless of liberal results


We aren't living in the pre-pandemic past. The Orange Asshole has failed on every level, he allowed the pandemic to rage out of controlled, he failed at providing a defense against a foreign enemy, to provide for the general welfare.
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According to you who apparently believes name calling is a successful debate tactic. Trump hasn't hurt you, your family or the country but your ideology certainly has. So now a virus is a foreign enemy? what should Trump have done, declared Marshall Law? Providing for the general welfare ISN'T in the Constitution, PROMOTING it is and the way to promote it is to provide incentive like tax cuts, economy activity.

He is fired!
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Trump never got your vote in 2016 and won't have it in 2020, you offer no viable alternative or policies from Biden/Harris that will make this country stronger and better. Over 58 million 401K holders seeing a 10,000 point gain from November 2016 to the present aren't going to trust Biden/Harris with those gains and their socialist economic policies.
 
jakiejakester said:
Your post is a joke! Choosing a female running mate at all, and then one of color is what this country needs to change politics in this country. The same old white man rule sh** has not moved us forward as a nation and has excluded people forever. People like you are the reason it is so important to change it up. You're so entrenched in your racist attitudes that you do what Trump does which is to deflect the truth by blaming the accuser of the same thing they're accused of. Calling Dems racists and sexists is just another fine example of who you are and how clueless you are about the world and reality.
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Did you not see during the primaries that the Democrat voters didn't want any of the women of the minorities?

The voters only wanted old white men.

How do you explain that?
 
nota bene said:
I have to question the term "devout." Just as there are secular Jews, there are cultural Catholics. The distinction is made between practicing Catholics and cultural Catholics, and like Schwarzenegger, Pelosi, and Kerry, he is not a practicing Catholic.

From Catholic.org:

Unfortunately, the term practicing Catholic is bit squishy (or vague or ambiguous as lawyers might say) and subject to abuse by all manner of Catholics (in name only) who seek to justify their various stances

The person who claims to be a practicing Catholic while not giving at least religious submission of intellect and will to the all Church's teaching, including that related to the ordination of women, artificial contraception, abortion, and homosexuality (to pick a few of the hot-button issues) is being disingenuous. These moral teachings are part of the "standards of excellence" that are part of the Catholic practice. Without at least religious submission of intellect and will to these and similar teachings, one can be many things, but one thing one cannot be is a practicing Catholic. What Does it Really Mean to be a Practicing Catholic? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online
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I suppose in his mind he would believe he is devout but while everything I read about him points to his being a "practicing Catholic," how does one take communion during mass knowing they spport murder, (late term abortion)?

eta: There is no wiggle room in the church when it comes to the issue of LTA.
 
calamity said:
She'll be president soon and remain there until 2032. I am sure the fascists are ****ting themselves over that prospect.

I like that too.

BTW: Your source is a joke.
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When, if elected, Harris takes over the Presidency in January of 2021, does that count as her first term, or does she have to be elected for that to count?
 
Conservative said:
So you tell me what Harris policies aren't leftwing radical and will be supported by the independents in this country? This is the candidate and policies that you support, how do you sell Independents on programs that won't benefit them?

A Vote For Biden Puts Far-Left Kamala Harris In Line To Be President — Scared Yet? – Issues & Insights
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Completely glossing over the historical foundations argument, looks like a concession to me.

As far as the rest, you right-wingers are going to be tying yourself in knots, "She wants the GND! She prosecuted marijuana smokers!" It is all so troubling to you to have to face someone who was able to do her job and not let her political bias overwhelm her office.

You have called me a radical, and I am. She isn't a radical.

PS, stop arguing with me as if you are going to change my voting.
 
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