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EU voting on working week opt-out

Maximus Zeebra said:
-- why is the UK unwilling to accept this? --
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It isn't a simple issue of limiting working hours - "one size fits all" hasn't worked ever anywhere everytime.

Anyway, if the UK doesn't accept it - it doesn't stop other EU members choosing to go their own way on it and it certainly hasn't put off all the Polish workers who came to Britain to work ever since they joined the EU.
 
jallman said:
Because the UK is one of the few EU members that still actually has a work ethic to speak of...
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:lol:

So it is ethical to work more than 48 hours.. Thank God that I ain't the slave here, I work 30 hours, its damn fine..
 
Infinite Chaos said:
It isn't a simple issue of limiting working hours - "one size fits all" hasn't worked ever anywhere everytime.

Anyway, if the UK doesn't accept it - it doesn't stop other EU members choosing to go their own way on it and it certainly hasn't put off all the Polish workers who came to Britain to work ever since they joined the EU.
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Isnt it a healthy thing to have maximum work hours to avoid modern slavery? Who actually wants to work more than 48 hours a week? Except under special circumstances which are still allowed...

And by the UK opting out they can keep exploiting these people at their suffering because it falls/opts out of the EU protection of rights.
 
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Maximus Zeebra said:
Isnt it a healthy thing to have maximum work hours to avoid modern slavery? Who actually wants to work more than 48 hours a week? Except under special circumstances which are still allowed...

And by the UK opting out they can keep exploiting these people at their suffering because it falls/opts out of the EU protection of rights.
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We don't need Brussells to defend our rights, we've been doing it for centuries. How about you guys keep your noses out of our affairs for once.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Isnt it a healthy thing to have maximum work hours to avoid modern slavery? Who actually wants to work more than 48 hours a week? Except under special circumstances which are still allowed...

And by the UK opting out they can keep exploiting these people at their suffering because it falls/opts out of the EU protection of rights.
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Do you know what the average working hours in Europe are? The US? Great Britain? Switzerland?

Try that before you start on about "slave labour" in the UK. :lol:
 
Personally I am of the attitude, if you want to work yourself to death then fine by me.

However I am all for having an upper limit on what companies can "force" employees to work, since the goal of the legislation is to protect the weak party, aka the employees, from being exploited by management. We have seen it before and still see it world wide, so why do some people live in a box thinking that such exploitation wont happen in the 21st century...

Saying that, if the employee (without being threatened with being fired of course) agrees on his or her own accord to work more than the limit, fine by me.. that is a personal freedom and choice... but of course said employee should be compensated for the extra work. If the employees say no.. guess what.. HIRE some more! if you as a company need workers to work extra hours.

As for the UK not wanting to "play ball".. hardly a shocker. The country that brought us child slave labour in Victorian times has been fighting any and all measures to improve the working place for decades.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
The max work week of 48 hours is one step further in human rights, why is the UK unwilling to accept this? Shameful
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Perhaps because they are adults and don't have time for such silliness?

The idea that working in excess of 48 hours in a week violates someones' 'human rights' is, quite possibly, the most inane thing I have ever heard.
 
JMak said:
I'm surprised that the UK has not already embraced this. This seems just like the favored planned economy policy that Labour would support.

This concept of a max work week is just another in a long line of bad public policy decision imposing labor regulations on employers.
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Not to mention the height of laziness...
 
It's crap. If you don't want to work the hours the company needs you to work, get a different job. I know this works because I have done it.
 
It's not crap, it's progressivism. These types of laws are developed by individuals who think they know better than the rest of us what is good for us. Hence, such laws are justified on the basis that it's good for us.

I guess some fool could argue that by limiting the number of hours an individual could work per week would lead to employers to hire more people. I find that doubtful.
 
"Progressivism" is part of the problem. I agree with you 100%.
 
Goobieman said:
Perhaps because they are adults and don't have time for such silliness?

The idea that working in excess of 48 hours in a week violates someones' 'human rights' is, quite possibly, the most inane thing I have ever heard.
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What the heck.. How is it good to work more than you sleep? How is it advantageous to work more than you have free time to do other things(among them family)?

More than 48 hours is close to slavery..
 
PeteEU said:
Personally I am of the attitude, if you want to work yourself to death then fine by me.
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It should be a human right not to.. And what about better distribution of work? Why should a fraction of people work as slaves for more than 48 hours a week while other have no jobs?
 
Ikari said:
what a bunch of lazy jerks. If that were my work week, I'd be done in about 4 work days. Not bad...but I need the other 3 days to work as well. Get back to work hippie!
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:lol:

I work 4 days a week, 7 1/2 hour with 10 minute break inside every hour. I think thats more than enough. :mrgreen:
 
Red_Dave said:
What about the rights of those who want to, or as is increasingly the case:need to work more then 48 hours?
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Those who want to can under special arrangements.. Those who need to is the problem, since those are increasigly becoming a majority in the UK for example.. In places like the UK the US, Norway and other countries people need to work more than 44 hours to survive, thats a shame when the majority in France manages fine on 35 hours.
 
JMak said:
It's not crap, it's progressivism. These types of laws are developed by individuals who think they know better than the rest of us what is good for us. Hence, such laws are justified on the basis that it's good for us.

I guess some fool could argue that by limiting the number of hours an individual could work per week would lead to employers to hire more people. I find that doubtful.
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How is it not better to work less than more?
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
:lol:

I work 4 days a week, 7 1/2 hour with 10 minute break inside every hour. I think thats more than enough. :mrgreen:
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Jesus. You want to be paid like a high priced lawyer with the work of a part-time fry cook. i'm starting to see the problem.
 
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