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Sean Hannity removes 'gobbledygook' Latin motto from book cover

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The link: Sean Hannity removes 'gobbledygook' Latin motto from book cover | Books | The Guardian

The quote: "The Latin motto on Fox News anchor Sean Hannity’s new book has been changed after the original was described as “complete and utter gobbledygook” by a classics student.

"Hannity’s Live Free or Die: America (and the World) on the Brink, which argues “now is an All Hands on Deck moment to save the Republic”, was published on Tuesday. But as Business Insider pointed out, the Latin motto it uses as a subtitle has been quietly changed from the original jacket.

"At first, the cover featured the Latin tagline “vivamus vel libero perit Americae” – a phrase that Hannity told viewers on Fox means “live free or America dies”. But as Indiana University Bloomington classics student Spencer Alexander McDaniel laid out on his blog in May, the Latin phrase makes little sense.

'“It is clear that whoever came up with this motto does not even know the basic noun cases in Latin or how they work,” wrote McDaniel. “The words in Hannity’s motto are real Latin words, but, the way they are strung together, they don’t make even a lick of sense.”'

The comment: It appears that Mr. Sean Hannity didn't bother to check the basis for his 'translation'. And so it goes ... .
 
Torus34 said:
The link: Sean Hannity removes 'gobbledygook' Latin motto from book cover | Books | The Guardian

The quote: "The Latin motto on Fox News anchor Sean Hannity’s new book has been changed after the original was described as “complete and utter gobbledygook” by a classics student.

"Hannity’s Live Free or Die: America (and the World) on the Brink, which argues “now is an All Hands on Deck moment to save the Republic”, was published on Tuesday. But as Business Insider pointed out, the Latin motto it uses as a subtitle has been quietly changed from the original jacket.

"At first, the cover featured the Latin tagline “vivamus vel libero perit Americae” – a phrase that Hannity told viewers on Fox means “live free or America dies”. But as Indiana University Bloomington classics student Spencer Alexander McDaniel laid out on his blog in May, the Latin phrase makes little sense.

'“It is clear that whoever came up with this motto does not even know the basic noun cases in Latin or how they work,” wrote McDaniel. “The words in Hannity’s motto are real Latin words, but, the way they are strung together, they don’t make even a lick of sense.”'

The comment: It appears that Mr. Sean Hannity didn't bother to check the basis for his 'translation'. And so it goes ... .
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It's such a perfect comment on the intellectual rot in the conservative movement that I love this story. He obviously knows zero latin, which is fine, but puts the latin on there to sound smart to the dumbasses who will buy and read his drivel, and is himself and surrounded by others too lazy and stupid to get the term right. PERFECT!!!

This is your conservative movement in 2020!

:applaud
 
Everything about conservatives these days is fake and stupid.
 
JasperL said:
It's such a perfect comment on the intellectual rot in the conservative movement that I love this story. He obviously knows zero latin, which is fine, but puts the latin on there to sound smart to the dumbasses who will buy and read his drivel, and is himself and surrounded by others too lazy and stupid to get the term right. PERFECT!!!

This is your conservative movement in 2020!

:applaud
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I'm surprised he didnt go full stupid and use the FFs on the front cover. You know, add that extra seasoning.


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I don't know how the contract for this book was drawn up but I do wonder how much say Hannity had in the title verse the publisher and their marketing department. Also this seems more a failure or oversight on the proof readers or editors part unless there is some evidence Hannity pushed for the butcherd Latin phrase to ve included.

But Heck why let details like that get in the way of a good smear piece.
 
JasperL said:
It's such a perfect comment on the intellectual rot in the conservative movement that I love this story. He obviously knows zero latin, which is fine, but puts the latin on there to sound smart to the dumbasses who will buy and read his drivel, and is himself and surrounded by others too lazy and stupid to get the term right. PERFECT!!!

This is your conservative movement in 2020!

:applaud
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When you don't know, you ask people who do so you don't look like an ass. Hmm...I think we've seen this trend somewhere else....

:)
 
Torus34 said:
The link: Sean Hannity removes 'gobbledygook' Latin motto from book cover | Books | The Guardian

The quote: "The Latin motto on Fox News anchor Sean Hannity’s new book has been changed after the original was described as “complete and utter gobbledygook” by a classics student.

"Hannity’s Live Free or Die: America (and the World) on the Brink, which argues “now is an All Hands on Deck moment to save the Republic”, was published on Tuesday. But as Business Insider pointed out, the Latin motto it uses as a subtitle has been quietly changed from the original jacket.

"At first, the cover featured the Latin tagline “vivamus vel libero perit Americae” – a phrase that Hannity told viewers on Fox means “live free or America dies”. But as Indiana University Bloomington classics student Spencer Alexander McDaniel laid out on his blog in May, the Latin phrase makes little sense.

'“It is clear that whoever came up with this motto does not even know the basic noun cases in Latin or how they work,” wrote McDaniel. “The words in Hannity’s motto are real Latin words, but, the way they are strung together, they don’t make even a lick of sense.”'

The comment: It appears that Mr. Sean Hannity didn't bother to check the basis for his 'translation'. And so it goes ... .
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I despise Shawn Hannity, but this pathetic little article, blaming conservative authors for the failures of their publishers (these petty little twits have an entire article about a punctuation error in another book) has me vomiting even more and thinking maybe he's not that bad by comparison. It's made all the more disgusting by the huge text box at the bottom of the webpage informing me that they are tracking me, telling me exactly how many Guardian articles I have read, and begging me for my credit card number, as if I would pay for the garbage they sling.
 
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Chillfolks said:
I don't know how the contract for this book was drawn up but I do wonder how much say Hannity had in the title verse the publisher and their marketing department. Also this seems more a failure or oversight on the proof readers or editors part unless there is some evidence Hannity pushed for the butcherd Latin phrase to ve included.

But Heck why let details like that get in the way of a good smear piece.
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By definition, it's a "failure or oversight" resulting from trying to be something he's not -- educated.
 
From my schoolboy Latin, it still looks wrong to me. If Sean Hannity wanted to say, as he told viewers of Trump-Fox News, "Live free or America dies", I would suggest a better translation to be Vivamus vel libero America perit. Probably he wants to seem educated in the classics and so must be very brainy. What makes him believe this will impress his devotees, I wonder.
 
Chillfolks said:
I don't know how the contract for this book was drawn up but I do wonder how much say Hannity had in the title verse the publisher and their marketing department. Also this seems more a failure or oversight on the proof readers or editors part unless there is some evidence Hannity pushed for the butcherd Latin phrase to ve included.

But Heck why let details like that get in the way of a good smear piece.
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Nope, publisher's wouldn't do that. Hannity apparently want it on the cover, so they put it on thcover.
 
JasperL said:
It's such a perfect comment on the intellectual rot in the conservative movement that I love this story. He obviously knows zero latin, which is fine, but puts the latin on there to sound smart to the dumbasses who will buy and read his drivel, and is himself and surrounded by others too lazy and stupid to get the term right. PERFECT!!!

This is your conservative movement in 2020!

:applaud
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Hi!

Thank you for taking time to post a comment.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. Remember the Big 3: masks, hand washing and physical distancing.
 
JasperL said:
It's such a perfect comment on the intellectual rot in the conservative movement that I love this story. He obviously knows zero latin, which is fine, but puts the latin on there to sound smart to the dumbasses who will buy and read his drivel, and is himself and surrounded by others too lazy and stupid to get the term right. PERFECT!!!

This is your conservative movement in 2020!

:applaud
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Remember, too, that this sort of laziness is rampant in right wing media.

It counts heavily on the stupidity of the target audience. This is very common. Right wingers will make arguments and claims in media and in places like this that are utterly absurd with a straight face.

And the talk radio sheep will cheer.
 
jet57 said:
Nope, publisher's wouldn't do that. Hannity apparently want it on the cover, so they put it on thcover.
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Do you have a copy of the contract to back up that or simply pulling an opinion out of thin air?
 
Torus34 said:
The link: Sean Hannity removes 'gobbledygook' Latin motto from book cover | Books | The Guardian
The quote: "The Latin motto on Fox News anchor Sean Hannity’s new book has been changed after the original was described as “complete and utter gobbledygook” by a classics student.
"Hannity’s Live Free or Die: America (and the World) on the Brink, which argues “now is an All Hands on Deck moment to save the Republic”, was published on Tuesday. But as Business Insider pointed out, the Latin motto it uses as a subtitle has been quietly changed from the original jacket.
"At first, the cover featured the Latin tagline “vivamus vel libero perit Americae” – a phrase that Hannity told viewers on Fox means “live free or America dies”. But as Indiana University Bloomington classics student Spencer Alexander McDaniel laid out on his blog in May, the Latin phrase makes little sense.
'“It is clear that whoever came up with this motto does not even know the basic noun cases in Latin or how they work,” wrote McDaniel. “The words in Hannity’s motto are real Latin words, but, the way they are strung together, they don’t make even a lick of sense.”'
The comment: It appears that Mr. Sean Hannity didn't bother to check the basis for his 'translation'. And so it goes ... .
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"Breaking News"

:lamo
 
I'm still amazed that Hannity was able to write a book with one of his hands stuck down Trump's pants. Did he go into detail about trying to pay female coworkers to go to a hotel with him? Sounds like he and Tucker "White America is the Right America" Carlson had quite a frat party going on over at Fox.
 
"IvelA ReefA orA MericA IdAs!"

Sorry. That's all the latin I know.
 
Torus34 said:
The link: Sean Hannity removes 'gobbledygook' Latin motto from book cover | Books | The Guardian

The quote: "The Latin motto on Fox News anchor Sean Hannity’s new book has been changed after the original was described as “complete and utter gobbledygook” by a classics student.

"Hannity’s Live Free or Die: America (and the World) on the Brink, which argues “now is an All Hands on Deck moment to save the Republic”, was published on Tuesday. But as Business Insider pointed out, the Latin motto it uses as a subtitle has been quietly changed from the original jacket.

"At first, the cover featured the Latin tagline “vivamus vel libero perit Americae” – a phrase that Hannity told viewers on Fox means “live free or America dies”. But as Indiana University Bloomington classics student Spencer Alexander McDaniel laid out on his blog in May, the Latin phrase makes little sense.

'“It is clear that whoever came up with this motto does not even know the basic noun cases in Latin or how they work,” wrote McDaniel. “The words in Hannity’s motto are real Latin words, but, the way they are strung together, they don’t make even a lick of sense.”'

The comment: It appears that Mr. Sean Hannity didn't bother to check the basis for his 'translation'. And so it goes ... .
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Semper ubi sub ubi.
 
Jean-s said:
From my schoolboy Latin, it still looks wrong to me. If Sean Hannity wanted to say, as he told viewers of Trump-Fox News, "Live free or America dies", I would suggest a better translation to be Vivamus vel libero America perit. Probably he wants to seem educated in the classics and so must be very brainy. What makes him believe this will impress his devotees, I wonder.
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Live free or America dies = Vivamus vel libero Americae moritur

Hannity's version:

Vivamus vel libero perit Americae = Live free or lost America

Your version:

Vivamus vel libero America perit = Live free or America is lost
 
Chillfolks said:
Do you have a copy of the contract to back up that or simply pulling an opinion out of thin air?
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You seriously think a member of DebatePolitics would have a copy of Sean Hannity's contract with his publisher? What an astonishing question you asked. Maybe you have proof that Hannity sent an email to his publisher asking them to remove the Latin nonsense before publication. If so, could you post that, I wonder.
 
The idea that Hannity didn't fully endorse what was on the cover of a book he supposedly wrote is laughable.
He would have known exactly what the design was and had to approve it personally.
It's his book.
 
Glitch said:
Live free or America dies = Vivamus vel libero Americae moritur

Hannity's version:

Vivamus vel libero perit Americae = Live free or lost America

Your version:

Vivamus vel libero America perit = Live free or America is lost
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perit can be translated as 'lost' but also perished which is the same as dead.
 
Jean-s said:
perit can be translated as 'lost' but also perished which is the same as dead.
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Not quite.

"Perit" is actually "gone," and "periit" is "lost" or "perished." "Dead" is "mortuus" or "dies" is "moritur" and it is not the same as gone, lost, or perished.
 
Jean-s said:
You seriously think a member of DebatePolitics would have a copy of Sean Hannity's contract with his publisher? What an astonishing question you asked. Maybe you have proof that Hannity sent an email to his publisher asking them to remove the Latin nonsense before publication. If so, could you post that, I wonder.
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Of course I don’t that’s why I have not made a definitive statement either way unlike the person I was replying to who said a publisher would not do such a thing. My first post in this thread started out saying I don’t know how this contract was drawn up.
 
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