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Sally Yates, Defending DOJ, Says Michael Flynn Talks Neutered U.S. Russia Policy

Napoleon said:
Really? When, exactly, was the last time a paid foreign agent served as NSA and played an unauthorized game of kissy face with the Russian Ambassador without the knowledge of the President and then denied it ever happened when asked by the Vice President?
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Every incoming NSA when the WH changed party hands 1976-2016 has reached out to the more important embassies, and been reached out to by them. The only thing different this time was the attempt to criminalize routine transition activity.
 
jmotivator said:
... you mean preliminary diplomatic talks by the incoming administration weighed on the policy goals of the lame duck administration?

Well, that only always happens. :lol:
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To think that the incoming NSA did damage to the lame duck administration is such a joke. The damage done to the Obama administration was done by the Obama administration.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
We have the transcript. He admitted to it. He plead guilty to it.
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We have the transcripts, nothing the Communist party claims is true.

Flynn was persecuted by the Obama regime in a felonious manner.

Yates threw that scumbag Comey under bus (he belongs in prison)

{"I was upset that Director Comey didn't coordinate that with us and acted unilaterally," Yates said.

"Did Comey go rogue?" Graham asked.

"You could use that term, yes," Yates agreed.

Yates said she also took issue with Comey for not telling her that Flynn's communications with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were being investigated and that she first learned about this from President Barack Obama during an Oval Office meeting. Yates said she was "irritated" with Comey for not telling her about this earlier.}

Well DAYUM, looks like the traitor is trying to save herself.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
We have the transcripts, nothing the Communist party claims is true.

Flynn was persecuted by the Obama regime in a felonious manner.

Yates threw that scumbag Comey under bus (he belongs in prison)

{"I was upset that Director Comey didn't coordinate that with us and acted unilaterally," Yates said.

"Did Comey go rogue?" Graham asked.

"You could use that term, yes," Yates agreed.

Yates said she also took issue with Comey for not telling her that Flynn's communications with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were being investigated and that she first learned about this from President Barack Obama during an Oval Office meeting. Yates said she was "irritated" with Comey for not telling her about this earlier.}

Well DAYUM, looks like the traitor is trying to save herself.
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We have the documents. Nothing the Neo-Nazi and KKK party claims is true.

Flynn plead guilty, because he was objectively guilty of the crime he plead guilty to.


By the way when is this legendary IG report that actually puts people behind bars or even charges someone going to come? I've been waiting years.
 
Yates admitted reading FISA applications and signing them and they were fraudulent. Bitch should be in prison where she belongs, just another corrupt Obama whore!
 
HennyBogan said:
Yates admitted reading FISA applications and signing them and they were fraudulent. Bitch should be in prison where she belongs, just another corrupt Obama whore!
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Speaking like that will do wonders for your cult's women vote. Don't stop.

P.S. Still waiting for all those sentences, indictments, and criminal charges from the IG.
 
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Fishking said:
What in the transcript are you referring to? What does the transcript have to do with what he admitted to? What does the transcript have to do what he plead guilty to? And finally...what new information was uncovered that changed the dynamic of the plea?
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Hes referring to the transcript of Flynns call with the Russian Ambassador where Flynn never as much as even uses the word sanctions and the ambassador mentioned them once in passing. Flynn saying they didn't discuss sanctions isn't a lie.
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2020/05/FlynnTranscripts.pdf
 
j brown's body said:
Sally Yates Says Michael Flynn Talks Neutered U.S. Russia Policy : NPR

Its kind of a no brainer, isn't it?
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Whoa - it's the new incoming administration which gets to decide US policy on Russia. Transition of power was already underway. It looks like the corrupt Democrats don't believe in transition of power.

It looks like Democrats want to run national policies even into the new term of office of a different administration. Sorry, but you don't get to be dictators.

Democrats don't care about the constitution.

They're getting away with taking such outrageous positions, because their cronies and defenders in the media are letting them get away with it.
 
Integrityrespec said:
To think that the incoming NSA did damage to the lame duck administration is such a joke. The damage done to the Obama administration was done by the Obama administration.
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As I said earlier, the only damage done to Obama's foreign policy was Hillary Clinton losing.


... well, that and appointing Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State.
 
TomFitz said:
Not the way Flynn went about it. Promising the Russians that Trump would end the sanctions. Promoting an idiotic scheme to build nuclear reactors in the Middle East, privatizing the Afghan conflict to Erick Prince.
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He did no such thing.
 
Lutherf said:
That was the biggest bull**** argument I heard all day. When they interviewed Flynn the election was already over, Trump had won and his administration would be conducting their own foreign policy. If Flynn "neutered" anything then it was doing so for 30 days until Obama left office. Beyond that, his urging to "only act reciprocally" can only be construed as "neutering" existing policy through extensive mental gymnastics. That testimony belied a deep political interpretation rather than any substantive legal interpretation.
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It was a call to ask Russia to delay reciprocal sanctions.
.Why is this a "counterintellignce investigation" reason to imnvestigate Flynn?
 
RetiredUSN said:
This as about Flynn, not your usual BS of shifting and deflections.

Flynn was setup, so deal with it.
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Flynn was happily willing to sell out his country. Deal with that.
 
Cordelier said:
Whether or not Flynn violated the Logan Act is beside the point. Neither the FBI nor the Mueller investigation seemed to think that obtaining Logan Act conviction on Flynn would have been likely, so I think he deserves a pass on that one.

So far as I see it, the key point is that Flynn lied to the Vice President-elect about his contacts and the Vice President-elect then repeated those lies on national TV. Though it's not technically illegal to lie to the Vice President, it is undoubtedly problematical to your job security if that fact is revealed. What's more, the Russians also knew that Flynn had lied to Pence. This made Flynn vulnerable to exploitation by Russian intelligence. Would you agree with me that the only responsible course of action for FBI counter-intelligence would have been to do whatever it took to plug that potential vulnerability at the very top of our National Security infrastructure?
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so what's the predicate for a counter-intelligence investigation of Flynn? Lying to the VP is not. asking for a delay in sanctions is not.

because Flynn wanted to work more closely with Russia on terrorism from Iran is not "suspicious", to warrant an investigation.
Those are policy points any NSA could do without being investigated for intelligence reasons
 
jmotivator said:
As I said earlier, the only damage done to Obama's foreign policy was Hillary Clinton losing.

... well, that and appointing Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State.
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saved us from a conflict in Syria enforcing her humanitarian "no fly" proposal
 
j brown's body said:
Sally Yates Says Michael Flynn Talks Neutered U.S. Russia Policy : NPR

Its kind of a no brainer, isn't it?
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That is the classic BS you get from both NPR and PBS newshour.

Flynn broke no laws. Flynn did not neuter Trump who he was to work for.

Flynn did not neuter Obama who was already riding the skids to political obscurity again.

Yates testified had she known the steel dossier was junk, she never would approve the FISA warrant against any of the Trump team.

After Flynn talked to the FBI agents, their report stated clearly he told them the truth.
 
sanman said:
Whoa - it's the new incoming administration which gets to decide US policy on Russia. Transition of power was already underway. It looks like the corrupt Democrats don't believe in transition of power.

It looks like Democrats want to run national policies even into the new term of office of a different administration. Sorry, but you don't get to be dictators.

Democrats don't care about the constitution.

They're getting away with taking such outrageous positions, because their cronies and defenders in the media are letting them get away with it.
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The Constitution says we only have one President at any one time, and his/her administration has the sole authority to conduct and set US foreign policy, unless it officially delegates that authority. The President-elect and his yet to be confirmed appointees have no such authority until their inauguration, period. If you're so fond of the US Constitution then perhaps you should take the time to actually read it some time.
 
dixon01767 said:
Hes referring to the transcript of Flynns call with the Russian Ambassador where Flynn never as much as even uses the word sanctions and the ambassador mentioned them once in passing. Flynn saying they didn't discuss sanctions isn't a lie.
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2020/05/FlynnTranscripts.pdf
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LOL! You really think that people engaging in acts they know may well be criminal or unethical are in the habit of saying out loud explicitly exactly what it is they are actually doing or talking about specifically and verbatim?
 
Atomic Kid said:
LOL! You really think that people engaging in acts they know may well be criminal or unethical are in the habit of saying out loud explicitly exactly what it is they are actually doing or talking about specifically and verbatim?
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I want no quid pro quo! I can say that and all my bases are covered now! My what tasty precedents we are setting.
 
Fishking said:
Khayembii Communique said:
We have the transcript. He admitted to it. He plead guilty to it.
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What in the transcript are you referring to? What does the transcript have to do with what he admitted to? What does the transcript have to do what he plead guilty to? And finally...what new information was uncovered that changed the dynamic of the plea?
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Why not ask V.P. Mike Pence what was in the entire, redacted set of call transcripts he was given to evaluate?

Name any source influencing your opinion that comes from other than an appointee of or a supporter of Trump.

The FBI I.G., Horowitz disagrees, Flynn's sentencing judge disagrees, Pence, as you can read above, disagreed before he reversed. There is nothing in the record to actually support your contrary to the record conclusions, only enough to fuel suspicions, not enough for a predicate to open the Durham "inquiry", or Barr would have presented less absurd justification than declaring under oath, "I believe there was spying." Barr was unresponsive when asked to justify that claim!


Which plea, the one he plead guilty to, twice, deliberately sworn by the judge, the second time, or the one he is attempting to convince Judge Sullivan to accept since the second half of last year, the "not guilty" plea recently filed by his co-counsel, William Barr?

No new information was uncovered, precisely the point in Judge Sullivan's December 16, 2019 rejection of all Flynn's excuses, and contrary to the May 7, 2020 DOJ dismissal motion, nothing new was identified to justify a not guilty plea, much less a dismissal.

post said:
Judge Emmet Sullivan, in his Dec. 16, 2019 ruling on Flynn's "attorney" (AKA Foxnews talking head) Sidney Powell's "barrage" of frivolous motions, protesting the identical crap Barr and Shea reiterated again in their motion for dismissal filed on May 7 when the DOJ became Flynn's co-counsel!

IOW, "alternative facts" suffice for Trump and his qanon infected base, but it only takes a belief system so far, until verifiable facts interfere....

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.144.0_3.pdf
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j brown's body said:
Sally Yates Says Michael Flynn Talks Neutered U.S. Russia Policy : NPR

Its kind of a no brainer, isn't it?
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LOL, yep its definitely a case of Yates having NO BRAINS. Since when is dissuading a target country from taking revenge for being punished a bad thing? Is she (or you) serious?

Imagine if an incoming Secretary of State had persuaded the Japanese from not taking revenge for oil sanctions, you don't think that would have been a good thing (i.e. no Pearl Harbor)...unless, of course, an Obama or FDR or Sally Yates actually wanted the US to get slapped back...

So what does that say about Ms. Yates...hmmmmmm?
 
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