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Sally Yates, Defending DOJ, Says Michael Flynn Talks Neutered U.S. Russia Policy

Do those meetings secretly undermine the current administration's foreign policy? Do people on the incoming president's team then lie to the FBI about the meetings? Are the meetings with meetings the incoming administration's party called "our greatest geopolitical foe" in the last election, in order to attack the current administration?

Tell me how asking the Russians not to retaliate against the US sanctions is undermining the current administration?

What undermined the Obama administrations policy goals was Hillary Clinton losing the 2016 election.
 
Its kind of a no brainer, isn't it?

Speaking generally, if anyone who was watching Sally Yates duel with Trump's droogs today came to the conclusion that she represents us while the other fellas represent them, I'm okay with that. :cool:
 
Flynn wasn't conducting foreign policy.

Flynn was acting at President-Elect Trump's instructions, and Flynn and Barr are obstructing in an ongoing conspiracy to obstruct, with Trump. Disagree? Why was "go between" KT Macfarland's appointment by Trump, withdrawn? She couldn't truthfully sustain the Senate vetting process.

What Mueller asked Trump, what he said in reply - and the questions he simply didn't answer | Daily Mail Online


What Mueller asked Trump, what he said in reply - and the string of written questions he simply ignored including: did you ask anyone to set up a back channel to Moscow?
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SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE:


g. On July 27, 2016, in response to a question about whether you would recognize Crimea as Russian territory and lift sanctions on Russia, you said: 'We'll be looking at that. Yeah, we'll be looking.' Did you intend to communicate by that statement or at any other time during the campaign a willingness to lift sanctions and/or recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected?


[size=11pt]i. What consideration did you give to lifting sanctions and/or recognizing Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected? Describe who you spoke with about this topic, when, the substance of the discussion(s).


TRUMP: = 0[/size]


"The Boss is Aware:" Trump Learned about Mike Flynn's Conversations with Sergey Kislyak in Real Time | emptywheel
“THE BOSS IS AWARE:” TRUMP LEARNED ABOUT MIKE FLYNN’S CONVERSATIONS WITH SERGEY KISLYAK IN REAL TIME
May 29, 2020 - Flynn told McFarland about the substance of his calls with Kislyak ... of the call went to Trump second-hand, perhaps through KT McFarland.

The problem for many Trump supporters is that their support is involuntary. It mattered not to them that Trump promised to "release his taxes", but never did, or that his attorney and friend, Michael Cohen concealed an illegal, six figure "hush payment" to a porn actress Trump was having sex with during the time Trumo's third wife was pregnant with his fifth child, or that Trump has;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e-more-than-20000-false-or-misleading-claims/
Analysis
President Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading claims
By Glenn Kessler, Salvador Rizzo and Meg Kelly
July 13, 2020 at 3:00 a.m. EDT
....
...The coronavirus pandemic has spawned a whole new genre of Trump’s falsehoods. The category in just a few months has reached nearly 1,000 claims, more than his tax claims combined.

Nosiree! Trump is a "victim" who has been "treated very unfairly".


K. T. McFarland - Wikipedia
....September 19, McFarland's confirmation was approved by the Committee and was sent on to the full Senate,[69] but as of the end of November her nomination was not scheduled for a vote in the full Senate.[54]

On December 1, Robert Mueller's Special Counsel investigation named McFarland as one of the people involved with Michael Flynn, her former supervisor, and Jared Kushner in developments leading up to Flynn's guilty plea to lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.[70] In particular, Kushner and McFarland reportedly briefed Flynn on what to say about U S. sanctions against Russia.[71]‹See TfM›[failed verification] The next day, an email McFarland wrote during the transition surfaced; it read: "If there is a tit-for-tat escalation Trump will have difficulty improving relations with Russia, which has just thrown U.S.A. election to him."[72] After talking to Kislyak, Flynn informed McFarland of the contents of the conversation, who in turn passed on the information to one of her colleagues.[73]

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On February 2, 2018, McFarland withdrew her nomination, writing "I have come to this decision reluctantly, because I believe in your mission" in her resignation letter to Trump.[81][82] In response, Trump blamed the Democrats, noting that they "chose to play politics rather than move forward with a qualified nominee for a critically important post" even though Senate Republicans could have approved her nomination unilaterally given their majority, which suggests that some of them may have been hesitant to approve her.[4]

In September 2018 it became known that she had indeed walked back her story to the special prosecutor. The FBI accepted McFarland's contention that she had not misstated factualities intentionally.[83]..
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He was actively undermining the current President's foreign policy.

Did you miss the latest documents released of Strzok's notes at the notorious meeting in early January 2017 in the Oval office with Obama, Susan Rice, Sally Yates, Biden, Comey and Strzok? The same meeting Sally Yates was questioned about today before Sen. Graham's committee? I am sure you will have no problem finding them as they have been posted all over the place.

In regard to your claim Strzok's notes of that meeting blow it up because within those notes it states that Comey told Obama that all the conversations that Flynn had with Kislyak were proper. But in those notes it also shows Biden suggests since the conversations couldn't nail Flynn he suggested using the Logan Act to keep the investigation open.

This happy horse poop you and those who share your mindset is about to blow up in your faces in the next few weeks. I wait with bated breath when that day comes after three and one half years of nothing but turd piles being posted on this forum that have been untrue.
 
Did you miss the latest documents released of Strzok's notes at the notorious meeting in early January 2017 in the Oval office with Obama, Susan Rice, Sally Yates, Biden, Comey and Strzok? The same meeting Sally Yates was questioned about today before Sen. Graham's committee? I am sure you will have no problem finding them as they have been posted all over the place.

In regard to your claim Strzok's notes of that meeting blow it up because within those notes it states that Comey told Obama that all the conversations that Flynn had with Kislyak were proper. But in those notes it also shows Biden suggests since the conversations couldn't nail Flynn he suggested using the Logan Act to keep the investigation open.

This happy horse poop you and those who share your mindset is about to blow up in your faces in the next few weeks. I wait with bated breath when that day comes after three and one half years of nothing but turd piles being posted on this forum that have been untrue.

"Notorious meeting"? I guess you believe in your heart of hearts, you have superior awareness of the details than Judge Emmett Sullivan?
Good luck with that! Oral arguments are scheduled before the DC Appeals Court on August 11 !

Access Denied
Remarks by President Trump on Supporting America’s Farmers and Ranchers
LAND & AGRICULTURE
Issued on: May 23, 2019

....Q Sir, the Constitution says treason is punishable by death. You’ve accused your adversaries of treason. Who specifically are you accusing of treason?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think a number of people. And I think what you look is that they have unsuccessfully tried to take down the wrong person.

Q Who are you speaking of?

THE PRESIDENT: If you look at Comey; if you look at McCabe; if you look at probably people — people higher than that; if you look at Strzok; if you look at his lover, Lisa Page, his wonderful lover — the two lovers, they talked openly. You know, they didn’t use their private server because they didn’t want to get caught, so they used the government server. That was not a good move. He talked about the insurance policy, just in case Crooked Hillary loses. And that didn’t work out too well for them.

So you look at them — they wanted an insurance policy so that should she, for any reason, lose — remember? One hundred million-to-one. Maybe, he said 100 million to nothing. But should she lose, we’ll have an insurance policy, and we’ll get this guy out of office.

And that’s what they said, and that’s what they meant. That’s treason. That’s treason. They couldn’t win the election, and that’s what happened.

And that’s what’s happening right now because — without the “treason” word, I guess — but that’s what’s happening now. They don’t feel they can win the election, so they’re trying to do the thousand stabs. Keep stabbing. Let’s have a financial. Let’s have…

And if you look, for $40 million, I would think, seriously, that Bob Mueller and his group of 18 killers have gone over my taxes, they’ve gone over my financial statements to a level that nobody has gone over them before. And they were not discussed, even. They weren’t ever discussed or brought up. I have great statements.

Okay, what else?....
 
Did you miss the latest documents released of Strzok's notes at the notorious meeting in early January 2017 in the Oval office with Obama, Susan Rice, Sally Yates, Biden, Comey and Strzok? The same meeting Sally Yates was questioned about today before Sen. Graham's committee? I am sure you will have no problem finding them as they have been posted all over the place.

In regard to your claim Strzok's notes of that meeting blow it up because within those notes it states that Comey told Obama that all the conversations that Flynn had with Kislyak were proper. But in those notes it also shows Biden suggests since the conversations couldn't nail Flynn he suggested using the Logan Act to keep the investigation open.

This happy horse poop you and those who share your mindset is about to blow up in your faces in the next few weeks. I wait with bated breath when that day comes after three and one half years of nothing but turd piles being posted on this forum that have been untrue.

I sure hope you are right.
 
I sure hope you are right.

Judge Emmet Sullivan, in his Dec. 16, 2019 ruling on Flynn's "attorney" (AKA Foxnews talking head) Sidney Powell's "barrage" of frivolous motions, protesting the identical crap Barr and Shea reiterated again in their motion for dismissal filed on May 7 when the DOJ became Flynn's co-counsel!

IOW, "alternative facts" suffice for Trump and his qanon infected base, but it only takes a belief system so far, until verifiable facts interfere....

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.144.0_3.pdf
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LOL, "undercut the Obama administration"? Seriously, doesn't each administration have the right to run things the way they wish? They ought go after HER for undercutting the Trump Administration while SHE WAS PART OF IT.

Sure, but only after an administration is sworn into office. Trump's hadn't been....

Judge Emmet Sullivan's 12/16/19 ruling on every issue Barr and Sidney Powell could gin up, including the identical crap slung at his court in the May 7, dismissal motion.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.144.0_3.pdf

A quick read, only 92 pages..... everything else is Trump, "magical thinking".... it will fade away, only 15 cases, soon, there will be none.... we've tested more than any country, there is a thing called "too much testing" look in the manuals!
 
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Sure, but only after an administration is sworn into office. Trump's hadn't been....

Judge Emmet Sullivan's 12/16/19 ruling on every issue Barr and Sidney Powell could gin up, including the identical crap slung at his court in the May 7, dismissal motion.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.144.0_3.pdf

A quick read, only 92 pages..... everything else is Trump, "magical thinking".... it will fade away, only 15 cases, soon, there will be none.... we've tested more than any country, there is a thing called "too much testing" look in the manuals!
Excuse me for not placing much weight on Sullivan's work.

The point is that Flynn was acting as the incoming Security Advisor making contact with foreign counterpoints. There was a little more than a month before Trump took over. Obama's time was fading away.
 
... you mean preliminary diplomatic talks by the incoming administration weighed on the policy goals of the lame duck administration?

Well, that only always happens. :lol:

Actually, that does NOT happen. It is highly improper for hangers on of any incoming (or potential incoming)Administration to secretly undermine the standing foreign policy of their own country

It’s dishonest and disloyal.

Which are Trump hallmarks.
 
... you mean preliminary diplomatic talks by the incoming administration weighed on the policy goals of the lame duck administration?

Well, that only always happens. :lol:

“Preliminary diplomatic talks” Flynn was not authorized to have by either the incoming or outgoing administrations and which he lied about having to the Vice President and FBI. We don’t often have generals sell their loyalties as paid foreign agents while serving as an administration official. Either way you slice it, the man is a traitor who should be stripped of all military rank and honors and locked up.
 
She also confirmed that the warrants to surveil Carter Page were fraudulent.
 
“Preliminary diplomatic talks” Flynn was not authorized to have by either the incoming or outgoing administrations and which he lied about having to the Vice President and FBI. We don’t often have generals sell their loyalties as paid foreign agents while serving as an administration official. Either way you slice it, the man is a traitor who should be stripped of all military rank and honors and locked up.

Flynn was the incoming NSA. He could talk to anybody he damn well pleased.
 
Yates threw Comey under the bus.



And that's all Graham wanted to hear. He's satisfied to leave it at that. Make Comey the scapegoat and leave everyone else alone.
 
The FBI lied and that's illegal.

Flynn walks.

Flynn pleaded guilty, and obviously was.

I guess the thing about shooting someone on Fifth Ave does apply.

The core of the Trump noise about their activities with the Russians are false claims that “they found nothing”, which is a blatant lie.

You fuhrer advertises his guilt daily. He dares anyone to hold him accountable.

And that’s what Trumpsters cheer for.

I would think that most people would see through the facade of noise coming out of Trump and his apologists are never “I didn’t do it”.

They’re always either “I did it, so what?” or “They lied, and I’m innocent because they never should have dared to investigate, no matter what I did, or how obvious it is!”

Trumpsters cheer for that, too!
 
Flynn was the incoming NSA. He could talk to anybody he damn well pleased.

His rewarding the Russians for corrupting our election was a nice touch.
 
Yates threw Comey under the bus.



And that's all Graham wanted to hear. He's satisfied to leave it at that. Make Comey the scapegoat and leave everyone else alone.


He's not done. They'll keep digging. It took at least a dozen Benghazi hearings to learn about Clinton's server.

As Willie Stark said in All the King's Men: "Jack, there's something on everybody. Man is conceived in sin and born in corruption."

Just keep on digging.
 
Actually, that does NOT happen. It is highly improper for hangers on of any incoming (or potential incoming)Administration to secretly undermine the standing foreign policy of their own country

It’s dishonest and disloyal.

Which are Trump hallmarks.

Actually it does, and the idea that incoming presidents don't establish Diplomatic contacts and begin setting groundwork until after inauguration is the product of an amazingly oblivious mind.

Moreover, the attempt to paint the incoming NSA request to the Russian Ambassador that Russian NOT retaliate to US policy as "disloyal" is the height of mindless partisan nuttery.
 
Flynn pleaded guilty, and obviously was.

I guess the thing about shooting someone on Fifth Ave does apply.

The core of the Trump noise about their activities with the Russians are false claims that “they found nothing”, which is a blatant lie.

You fuhrer advertises his guilt daily. He dares anyone to hold him accountable.

And that’s what Trumpsters cheer for.

I would think that most people would see through the facade of noise coming out of Trump and his apologists are never “I didn’t do it”.

They’re always either “I did it, so what?” or “They lied, and I’m innocent because they never should have dared to investigate, no matter what I did, or how obvious it is!”

Trumpsters cheer for that, too!

Yes, the only plausible explanation for the blind loyalty to Trump is that it is involuntary, or driven by white grievance.

Emails Dispute White House Claims That Flynn Acted Independently on Russia - The New York Times

On Dec. 29, a transition adviser to Mr. Trump, K. T. McFarland, wrote in an email to a colleague that sanctions announced hours before by the Obama administration in retaliation for Russian election meddling were aimed at discrediting Mr. Trump’s victory. The sanctions could also make it much harder for Mr. Trump to ease tensions with Russia, “which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him,” she wrote in the emails obtained by The Times.
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Every poster who defends Flynn ignores that he and KT MacFarland lied to federal investigators about the Kislyak calls and Trump obstructed the Mueller investigation both Flynn and MacFarland were protection Trump from.

What Mueller asked Trump, what he said in reply - and the questions he simply didn't answer | Daily Mail Online

What Mueller asked Trump, what he said in reply - and the string of written questions he simply ignored including: did you ask anyone to set up a back channel to Moscow?
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SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE:

g. On July 27, 2016, in response to a question about whether you would recognize Crimea as Russian territory and lift sanctions on Russia, you said: 'We'll be looking at that. Yeah, we'll be looking.' Did you intend to communicate by that statement or at any other time during the campaign a willingness to lift sanctions and/or recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected?

i. What consideration did you give to lifting sanctions and/or recognizing Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected? Describe who you spoke with about this topic, when, the substance of the discussion(s).


TRUMP: = 0

The exact same M.O. resulted in Stone blackmailing Trump into a pre-election commutation, bypassing the DOJ's pardons office, of course!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8-bdc0-90f81cc58c5d_story.html?outputType=amp
National Security
Former top White House official revises statement to special counsel about Flynn’s calls with Russian ambassador

...When FBI agents first visited her at her Long Island home in the summer of 2017, McFarland denied ever talking to Flynn about any discussion of sanctions between him and the ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, in December 2016 during the presidential transition.

For a time, investigators saw her answers as “inconsistent,” putting her in legal peril as the FBI tried to determine if she had lied to them.

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Not long after Flynn’s plea, McFarland was questioned by investigators again about her conversations with Flynn, and she walked back her previous denial that sanctions were discussed, saying a general statement Flynn had made to her that things were going to be okay could have been a reference to sanctions, these people said.

McFarland’s account does not answer the question of what the president knew or didn’t know about Flynn’s interactions with the ambassador, these people said.

McFarland didn’t respond to multiple requests for comment, including emails and calls to her home.

Eventually, McFarland and her lawyer Robert Giuffra were able to convince the FBI that she had not intentionally misled the bureau but had rather spoken from memory, without the benefit of any documents that could have helped her remember her exchanges with Flynn about the Kislyak conversations, these people said.....
 
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Yates: Comey Went 'Rogue' With Flynn Interview
Ronn Blitzer, Fox News

Former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates told the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday that when the FBI interviewed then-incoming national security adviser Michael Flynn in January 2017, it was done without her authorization, and that she was upset when she found out about it. . . .
 
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