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Lawmaker: Trump doesn't plan to leave the White House

Jack Hays said:
You said greatest threat since WW2. Don't move the goal posts.
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I stand by my claim that Trump is the greatest single threat to the USA and its people since the defeat of the Axis powers. I have no idea what you mean when you accuse me of moving the goal posts. The fact is that YOU brought up the Soviet Union and what I did in my reply was to show how overrated the Soviet threat actually was.
 
haymarket said:
I stand by my claim that Trump is the greatest single threat to the USA and its people since the defeat of the Axis powers. I have no idea what you mean when you accuse me of moving the goal posts. The fact is that YOU brought up the Soviet Union and what I did in my reply was to show how overrated the Soviet threat actually was.
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Let's review. The timeline "since the defeat of the Axis powers" was yours. The Cold War with the USSR falls on that timeline. The idea that any individual could be as big a threat as a nuclear-armed adversary state is ludicrous. And no, you did not show how overrated the Soviet threat was.
 
Jack Hays said:
Let's review. The timeline "since the defeat of the Axis powers" was yours. The Cold War with the USSR falls on that timeline. The idea that any individual could be as big a threat as a nuclear-armed adversary state is ludicrous. And no, you did not show how overrated the Soviet threat was.
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It is simply a difference of opinion.

My position on the Soviet Union is not new. I would urge you to do some reading on it.

The Soviet Threat - Claremont Review of Books

This should help you.
 
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Crossfire said:
This is a question so stupid, I am not going to answer. Take that as you will.
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I think it's more a case of Crossfire suddenly realizing that HIS comment:

Crossfire said:
I could not care less if any president nuked every hurricane. One less nuke that could potentially be used on people. Plus, how do you know it will not work until it is tried.
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Tops the Stupid List by a country mile.
That's why I asked if you thought nukes were just extra large firecrackers.
It takes a special kind of stupid to say that one doesn't care if nukes get tossed into a hurricane, and that we don't know that it wouldn't work unless we tried.

It takes the kind of stupid that isn't aware of the dangers of radioactive fallout and EMP, and it takes the kind of stupid that doesn't take into account what happens when the shock wave happens in the MIDDLE of the hurricane.

You're not going to answer because you've embarrassed yourself.

And everybody knows it. :lamo
 
TheParser said:
In my opinion, Representative Clyburn has made a very irresponsible statement that is not worthy of a Representative of the United States of America.

If (as is likely) President Trump loses, he will no doubt be a gracious host to the in-coming President and First Lady.

I assume, however, that he will not attend the inauguration, for his presence would probably create an unpleasant reaction from many people in the crowd.
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Prisoners don't generally attend inaugurations anyway so he'd have to satisfy himself watching it on TV...from his cell.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I think it's more a case of Crossfire suddenly realizing that HIS comment:



Tops the Stupid List by a country mile.
That's why I asked if you thought nukes were just extra large firecrackers.
It takes a special kind of stupid to say that one doesn't care if nukes get tossed into a hurricane, and that we don't know that it wouldn't work unless we tried.

It takes the kind of stupid that isn't aware of the dangers of radioactive fallout and EMP, and it takes the kind of stupid that doesn't take into account what happens when the shock wave happens in the MIDDLE of the hurricane.

You're not going to answer because you've embarrassed yourself.

And everybody knows it. :lamo
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I have done research on nuclear fallout, and an EMP would do precisely dick hundreds of miles out in the ocean. Since you are an expert, how about you share with all of us exactly what happens when the shock wave happens in the middle of a hurricane.
 
Jack Hays said:
No. Before I entered government service I taught this subject. While in government I was directly involved.
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So there is no need for you to challenge old ideas then.
 
AlphaOmega said:
If you are correct as you say then there is no risk. So you are saying you are risking something? How so since you proclaim you are correct? I'm very amused by your stance that I am afraid while you are the one refusing to step over the line because mom told you to not walk off bridges. <lol
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It's not about risk...it's about stupid and being personally invested in the Internetz view of one's self. Which I'm not.


LOL Keep telling yourself that...maybe you'll believe it. You can practically smell the fear in your posts.

Yup, you are wrong, I am right, and still dont feel the need to prove myself on the Internetz, being an adult and all. My mother also knows I'd never be stupid enough to risk something 'important' based on my ego. You've done so....for "Internet opinion!" :lamo :lamo

Me? Copying the stupid actions of others isnt my thing. I'm not that invested in a discussion forum. I'll be here to enjoy your executing on your stupid action tho.​


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Jack Hays said:
You're a bit behind. By the time this is over, the Swedes may look pretty wise.

The Conversation
.Sweden eschewed lockdowns. It's too early to be certain it was wrong


". . . Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist, says in many ways the voluntary measures put in place in Sweden were just as effective as the complete lockdowns in other countries, and might be more sustainable.
On its performance to date, Sweden has the world’s eighth highest death rate.
But if present trends continue, the ranking will fall. It is possible that by the time a proper accounting is done it won’t even make the top 20.
We will know soon how Sweden did economically in the second quarter of the year. Bank forecasts have its economy down only 7% to 8% in that quarter compared to 12% for the European Union as a whole.

It’s too early for a full accounting

A full accounting of how Sweden’s approach has fared compared to other country’s will take time, and will involve trading off health, economic, educational and other outcomes.
Confidence in its Public Health Agency remains high at 65%, suggesting Swedes are not unhappy with the tradeoffs made. And they are prepared to follow directions, perhaps more than Australians and residents of the United States and the much-touted Germany.
Sweden’s Civil Contingencies Agency says 87% of the population is complying with the social distancing restrictions that are in place, up from 82% a month ago."
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So you came back to say 'they dont know yet?'

:lamo :lamo

yeah, I read the articles I posted. They are current. Sweden failed, in a big way.

But you go ahead with your cherry-picked quotes that STILL only say 'they arent sure' :doh

If that makes you feel better, :shrug: I'm glad you have the Internet as your friend.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
It's not about risk...it's about stupid and being personally invested in the Internetz view of one's self. Which I'm not.


LOL Keep telling yourself that...maybe you'll believe it. You can practically smell the fear in your posts.

Yup, you are wrong, I am right, and still dont feel the need to prove myself on the Internetz, being an adult and all. My mother also knows I'd never be stupid enough to risk something 'important' based on my ego. You've done so....for "Internet opinion!" :lamo :lamo

Me? Copying the stupid actions of others isnt my thing. I'm not that invested in a discussion forum. I'll be here to enjoy your executing on your stupid action tho.​
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Fishking said:
Yeah...there were all kinds of foreign involvement in the election, always was, always will. Did we get to whine about the UK debating whether Trump should be banned from coming in their country during the elections in their parliament? Seems like a bigger deal than a couple Facebook posts. Did anyone's votes get changed from who they voted for? No? Then there really isn't interference.

The elections were 100% valid but y'all just can't let it go.
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That there were alot of people stupid enough to fall under foreign influence is not questioning the validity of the vote. (Please source your opinion that 'no' one's votes were influenced.)

The numbers werent questioned, altho there were, as in the past, discussions about popular vs electorate decisions.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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vanceen said:
Did you really think that video was about anyone in a position to know saying that had actual reasons to think that Trump won't leave office if he loses?

If you did, then you didn't look at it. If you didn't, I question why you posted it under this title.

I can't stand Trump, and one reason is because he plays fast and loose with the truth. I don't respect it when other people do it either.
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Of course he is. And do you know how I know? Because his opinion is being borne out on almost a daily basis now. The Donald is questioning voting, the process, the possibility of fraud, changing the date, etc.

When previously asked if he would accept the vote, he answered "We'll see."

So the opinion expressed in the video is proven accurate, at least the 'attempt.' We wont know until Nov if he was completely correct.



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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ReubenSherr said:
You're losing your line of thought...

I was reacting to this post:

"He's attempting to sow fear and he's looking for anyway possible to deal with the losing results he's being told to expect."

Trump is not being told to expect losing results.
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Of course he is. His handlers tell him the polls. He does read at least the cartoons in the media, he must accidentally see polls, so prominently published, sometimes :lol:

And he's attempting pre-emptive actions. For God sake, it's not even bad strategy...I didnt say it was honest but when you're desperate, desperate measures become tempting.

Do you think his handlers are hiding the numbers from him?

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Moderate Right said:
If you believe Biden will win then the rest doesn't matter. But, haven't you forgot, if Trump loses he isn't going to leave office? Or, don't you believe that either?
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The Donald attempting something doesnt mean The Donald succeeding at something :mrgreen:

OTOH, any such attempt would just create more dissent and damage to the country so of course I dont want to see it.



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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bubbabgone said:
I see.
You've been getting direction from someone called David Parkman.
All this makes sense now.
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So still no argument?

:shrug:

You are dismissed.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Anthony60 said:
You did not give any example how he could Constitutionally stay in office. Just some vague BS like that moron Clyburn. So, as I thought, just another baseless smear of the President, as usual. Let us know when you come up with something substantive.
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Trump Constitutionally Could Remain President Even if He Loses 2020 Popular and Electoral Votes, and He Knows It. Thom Hartmann Explains. — Buzzflash

The Constitution provides a couple of mechanisms for Trump to lose the 2020 election—both the popular vote and the Electoral College—and still hold the office of president for a second term.

What if Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen is right, and after losing the 2020 election Trump refuses to leave office?

On its surface, the question seems silly—nobody who has lost both the popular vote and an uncontested Electoral College vote has ever gone on to become president, right?

Unfortunately, it’s wrong. The GOP has done this before, an action that included multiple threats of violence and bloodshed on the floor of Congress, leading Democrats to cave in even though their candidate won the popular vote and had 22 more electoral votes than the Republican (who became president).

Additionally, the Constitution says that if a presidential election really turns into a mess with multiple claims of fraud or some other crisis, the president is selected by the U.S. House of Representatives.
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Now, let's see your specific denials.

Post 119 for reference.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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AlphaOmega said:
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LOL :mrgreen: you keep grinning...maybe you'll believe it. You can practically smell the fear in your posts.

Yup, you are wrong, I am right, and still dont feel the need to prove myself on the Internetz, being an adult and all. My mother also knows I'd never be stupid enough to risk something 'important' based on my ego. You've done so....for "Internet opinion!" :lamo :lamo

Me? Copying the stupid actions of others isnt my thing. I'm not that invested in a discussion forum. I'll be here to enjoy your executing on your stupid action tho.​


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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haymarket said:
So there is no need for you to challenge old ideas then.
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We confronted the Soviets around the world for decades and tens of thousands died. The Soviet empire collapsed in 1989 and hundreds of millions were liberated. Comparison to any individual is ludicrous.
 
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