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Lawmaker: Trump doesn't plan to leave the White House

Jack Hays said:
There's an entire country doing what ludin suggests.


". . . Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist, says in many ways the voluntary measures put in place in Sweden were just as effective as the complete lockdowns in other countries, and might be more sustainable."
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It has failed in Sweden. They made huge sacrifices to their elderly population and also do not have the density of pops that we do. And it still wasnt successful, they just chose to sacrifice people. And they did.


Sweden’s Gamble On Coronavirus: Has It Paid Off? [Update]

In short, Sweden kept public life as “normal” as possible, the overarching theory being that there is no way to suppress the coronavirus until a vaccine is approved and widely available. As time has gone on the numbers don’t seem to have borne out this strategy, as Sweden is seeing more deaths from the virus than it might have otherwise.
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How Sweden fought coronavirus, and what went wrong

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

In terms of infections and deaths, Sweden is still better off than the worst affected countries in Europe, but it’s faring a lot worse than neighboring countries with more similar characteristics. For example, the country currently has more than nine times as many deaths per million inhabitants as Norway.
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Post all you want to dismiss these articles and others saying the same...but they chose to risk more of their citizens. Most decent Americans chose to risk finances over lives.



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Moderate Right said:
Of course that would be the liberal opinion. No one likes the other party in power. If Biden wins, expect the same in return.
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Do you really think that Obama didnt have the country's best interests at heart?

Good lord, GWB wasnt much of a president but I did believe he put the country first.

Dont project your rigid biases on the rest of us. Most people are capable of thinking beyond goose-stepping for their leaders.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
Yeah...which other Republican did we call "The Bad Orange Man?"

Did you even play that in your head first? :roll:

Did you miss the ridiculous hate and racism piled on Obama? It's still happening, years after he left office. Same with Hillary.
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Y'all usually just call them nazis and war criminals.
 
Jack Hays said:
The USSR would be No. 1. You can argue after that.
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The USSR was more of a very loud paper tiger who was never really the equal of the USA in both military power and economic power.
 
Lursa said:
No one is possibly stupid enough to accept medical opinion from you.

Invalid claim, period.
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Holland won't issue a mask mandate. Their "experts" say there's no evidence that the masks work to prevent the spread.
 
Lursa said:
Do you really think that Obama didnt have the country's best interests at heart?

Good lord, GWB wasnt much of a president but I did believe he put the country first.

Dont project your rigid biases on the rest of us. Most people are capable of thinking beyond goose-stepping for their leaders.
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I voted for Obama in 2012.
 
apdst said:
Y'all usually just call them nazis and war criminals.
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All snark and no discussion.

"All hat and no cattle" as we like to call it.

People with a modicum of intelligence can understand the difference between a person's influence over a populace and their actual actions on that populace. Why dont you consider that a goal? Maybe listen to some self-improvement media on the road?


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
All snark and no discussion.

"All hat and no cattle" as we like to call it.

People with a modicum of intelligence can understand the difference between a person's influence over a populace and their actual actions on that populace. Why dont you consider that a goal? Maybe listen to some self-improvement media on the road?
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I'm not a herd animal like those on the Left. I don't need a "leader" to tell me what to do.

Since you believe physical contact can't spread the virus, then it isn't me who may need the self improvement.
 
Moderate Right said:
I voted for Obama in 2012.
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You didnt answer my question. Care to try?


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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apdst said:
I'm not a herd animal like those on the Left. I don't need a "leader" to tell me what to do.
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And yet, you are incapable of moving out of lockstep with him. The evidence here on the forum speaks for itself.

Since you believe physical contact can't spread the virus, then it isn't me who may need the self improvement.
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What? Where did you read that? :doh


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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bubbabgone said:
Yeah. Until a loss is certain you don't leave. You don't lose until it's confirmed you lost.
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Uh huh, that's all that article said :roll:

OTOH, as a Donald follower, it doesnt surprise me that that's all you saw.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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apdst said:
Holland won't issue a mask mandate. Their "experts" say there's no evidence that the masks work to prevent the spread.
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Source?

And:
Lursa said:
No one is possibly stupid enough to accept medical opinion from you.

Invalid claim, period.
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This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
You didnt answer my question. Care to try?
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Everyone has their own opinion and opinions are just opinions. It is your opinion that Trump doesn't care about Americans but it is just an opinion. My opinion is otherwise. As I said, I voted for Obama in 2012. TDS'rs have a bad opinion of Trump but those opinions are just their rabid TDS talking. Now, I do admit that Trump is kind of an asshole and a very imperfect person in many ways but he does care about Americans. To think otherwise is just TDS. You are a person who can't be talked to reasonably because you have unreasonable opinions. To have a reasonable discussion you have to be reasonable.
 
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apdst said:
Dutch government will not advise public to wear masks - minister - Reuters

As Europe masks up, the Netherlands dithers – POLITICO

The land with no face masks: Holland's top scientists say there's no solid evidence coverings work | Daily Mail Online
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Ha, made ya look. So you think we should follow The Netherland's methods? Since when? Right extremists constantly take offense at the idea any other country ever does something better than the US. But hey...this you'll jump on? Almost the entire rest of the globe disagrees, (as at least one of the articles says) but you want to follow The Netherlands? :lamo

If the Netherlands reversed their decision, would you then agree that masks were a valid safety measure? :roll:



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Moderate Right said:
Everyone has their own opinion and opinions are just opinions. It is your opinion that Trump doesn't care about Americans but it is just an opinion. My opinion is otherwise. As I said, I voted for Obama in 2012. TDS'rs have a bad opinion of Trump but those opinions are just their rabid TDS talking. Now, I do admit that Trump is kind of an asshole and a very imperfect person in many ways but he does care about Americans. To think otherwise is just TDS. You are a person who can't be talked to reasonably because you have unreasonable opinions. To have a reasonable discussion you have to be reasonable.
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My opinions arent unreasonable, altho my articulating of them here on the forum may seem so. There is no mistaking what The Donald is attempting on this issue: voting. He's attempting to sew fear and he's looking for anyway possible to deal with the losing results he's being told to expect.

And you still didnt answer a simple question: Do you believe that Obama had America's best interests at heart?



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Lursa said:
My opinions arent unreasonable, altho my articulating of them here on the forum may seem so. There is no mistaking what The Donald is attempting on this issue: voting. He's attempting to sew fear and he's looking for anyway possible to deal with the losing results he's being told to expect.

And you still didnt answer a simple question: Do you believe that Obama had America's best interests at heart?
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I answered your question at least twice now. I voted for Obama in 2012. What on Earth are you talking about with Trump and voting? Did you already forget that you think Biden is going to win? Did you also forget that Trump isn't going to leave the White House if he loses? If so, what does voting matter anyway?
 
Lursa said:
No one is possibly stupid enough to accept medical opinion from you.
Invalid claim, period.
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Facts do not care about your feelings.

More unfounded bias, not a fact in sight...humorous considering the wording you attempted.
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Which explains your inability to make an argument. again facts do not care about your feelings.

Huh, and yet, The Donald went and encouraged FL citizens to vote by mail yesterday. Are they legitimate voters?
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as long as they are registered yes.
i don't expect you to know that though.
The shorter list would be what you do know and go from there.

Then again the only way to get a mail in ballot in florida is to request one.
YOu have to do it a head of time and you must be reistered and your address
on your voters registration must match where you live.
 
Moderate Right said:
Of course that would be the liberal opinion. No one likes the other party in power. If Biden wins, expect the same in return.
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If biden wins i expect the same as obama.

high taxes
healthcare costs going through the roof
more government regulations and mandates.

a stagnant economy.

However given the fact that biden is running on a make america great campaign right now
not sure how he is better than trump lmao.

funniest thing i saw yet.
 
Lursa said:
An entire screenplay of me in your head! You fantasizing some victory on the Internetz!

:lamo :lamo :lamo

LOL Keep telling yourself that...maybe you'll believe it. You can practically smell the fear in your posts.

Yup, you are wrong, I am right, and still dont feel the need to prove myself on the Internetz, being an adult and all. My mother also knows I'd never be stupid enough to risk something 'important' based on my ego. You've done so....for "Internet opinion!" :lamo :lamo

Me? Copying the stupid actions of others isnt my thing. I'm not that invested in a discussion forum. I'll be here to enjoy your executing on your stupid action tho.​
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Hahaha I put it on the line just cuz. No strings attached. But again, if you are positive you are correct then you wouldn't be putting anything on the line. No no......you don't actually believe Biden will win. Makea sense. The guy wont even debate until September. Lol...even Biden doesn't believe in Biden. The DNC doesn't even want him talking before the election. lol. Biden is afraid of Chris Wallace for chrissake.. lol...no no...you are correct in not stepping over that line. You are wrong and would be packing your bags in November.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Hahaha I put it on the line just cuz. No strings attached. But again, if you are positive you are correct then you wouldn't be putting anything on the line. No no......you don't actually believe Biden will win. Makea sense. The guy wont even debate until September. Lol...even Biden doesn't believe in Biden. The DNC doesn't even want him talking before the election. lol. Biden is afraid of Chris Wallace for chrissake.. lol...no no...you are correct in not stepping over that line. You are wrong and would be packing your bags in November.
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:soap


LOL Keep telling yourself that...maybe you'll believe it. You can practically smell the fear in your posts.

Yup, you are wrong, I am right, and still dont feel the need to prove myself on the Internetz, being an adult and all. My mother also knows I'd never be stupid enough to risk something 'important' based on my ego. You've done so....for "Internet opinion!" :lamo :lamo

Me? Copying the stupid actions of others isnt my thing. I'm not that invested in a discussion forum. I'll be here to enjoy your executing on your stupid action tho.​
 
ludin said:
Facts do not care about your feelings.
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So... another 'na huh' from you.

you fail.



Which explains your inability to make an argument. again facts do not care about your feelings
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My pointing out that you failed to source or make an argument is a fact. So...another empty 'na huh' from you.

as long as they are registered yes.
i don't expect you to know that though.
The shorter list would be what you do know and go from there.
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I dont know that people need to register to vote? Is that how you 'feel?' :lamo Because it's not a fact :roll:

And thanks for highlighting his hypocrisy...voters need to be registered in Nevada too...where they will also be voting by mail.

Then again the only way to get a mail in ballot in florida is to request one.
YOu have to do it a head of time and you must be reistered and your address
on your voters registration must match where you live.
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And thousands of sick and elderly wont get that done. Which he's counting on.

Wow, some people cant think past their noses and your responses certainly indicate that.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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Moderate Right said:
I answered your question at least twice now. I voted for Obama in 2012. What on Earth are you talking about with Trump and voting? Did you already forget that you think Biden is going to win? Did you also forget that Trump isn't going to leave the White House if he loses? If so, what does voting matter anyway?
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You avoided the question. But I dont care. It's only tangential here.

And I do believe Biden will win. That has nothing to do with the currently observable actions and tirades of The Donald sowing distrust over mail in voting and proposing moving the election date, etc.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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