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D.A. Is Investigating Trump and His Company Over Fraud, Filing Suggests

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This should get interesting.... Makes it very, very difficult to justify denying access to the tax records...


The Manhattan district attorney’s office suggested on Monday that it has been investigating President Trump and his company for possible bank and insurance fraud, a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past.

The office of the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., made the disclosure in a new federal court filing arguing Mr. Trump should have to comply with its subpoena seeking eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns. Mr. Trump has asked a judge to declare the subpoena invalid.

The prosecutors did not directly identify the focus of their inquiry but said that “undisputed” news reports last year about Mr. Trump’s business practices make it clear that the office had a legal basis for the subpoena.

President Trump and his Company Investigated for Possible Fraud, Filing Suggests - The New York Times
 
Ouch... Not even nice in memorandum of law...

In light of these public reports of possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the
Trump Organization, there was nothing facially improper (or even particularly unusual) about the
Mazars Subpoena, which issued in connection with a complex financial investigation, requesting eight
years of records from an accounting firm.8
“No magic figure limits the vintage of documents subject
to a grand jury subpoena. The law requires only that the time bear some relation to the subject matter
of the investigation.”

memo of law.pdf | DocDroid
 
BlueTex said:
This should get interesting.... Makes it very, very difficult to justify denying access to the tax records...


The Manhattan district attorney’s office suggested on Monday that it has been investigating President Trump and his company for possible bank and insurance fraud, a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past.

The office of the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., made the disclosure in a new federal court filing arguing Mr. Trump should have to comply with its subpoena seeking eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns. Mr. Trump has asked a judge to declare the subpoena invalid.

The prosecutors did not directly identify the focus of their inquiry but said that “undisputed” news reports last year about Mr. Trump’s business practices make it clear that the office had a legal basis for the subpoena.

President Trump and his Company Investigated for Possible Fraud, Filing Suggests - The New York Times
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They may have to wait until Trump is out of office in January 2021. Then let the games begin.

Has Trump stolen from his charities this week?
 
BlueTex said:
This should get interesting.... Makes it very, very difficult to justify denying access to the tax records...


The Manhattan district attorney’s office suggested on Monday that it has been investigating President Trump and his company for possible bank and insurance fraud, a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past.

The office of the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., made the disclosure in a new federal court filing arguing Mr. Trump should have to comply with its subpoena seeking eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns. Mr. Trump has asked a judge to declare the subpoena invalid.

The prosecutors did not directly identify the focus of their inquiry but said that “undisputed” news reports last year about Mr. Trump’s business practices make it clear that the office had a legal basis for the subpoena.

President Trump and his Company Investigated for Possible Fraud, Filing Suggests - The New York Times
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Paywalled story, but it sounds like what's been going on. Pretty sickening abuse by the DA.
 
dcsports said:
Paywalled story, but it sounds like what's been going on. Pretty sickening abuse by the DA.
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Abuse by the DA? I would be ashamed to file the arguments Trump's lawyers have filed...
The memorandum of law sums it up pretty well..

Finally, Plaintiff repeats a conspiratorial assertion he has unsuccessfully pressed for nearly a year to all three levels of the federal courts: that the similarity between the Mazars Subpoena and the subpoenas issued by Congress demonstrates that the Mazars Subpoena was not issued in good faith and does not serve an appropriate investigative objective. As noted, the Mazars Subpoena seeks information about potential financial misconduct that has been publicly reported, and in part adopts language from one of the congressional subpoenas. As Congress has asserted, its subpoena was seeking information relating to those same public allegations for Congress’ own legislative purposes;it makes perfect sense that the subpoenas seek the same information, as they both relate to public reports about the same potentially improper conduct. Plaintiff’s baseless SAC merely serves to delay the grand jury’s investigation. Every day that goes by is another day Plaintiff effectively achieves the “temporary absolute immunity” that was rejected by this Court, the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court. Every such day also increases the prospect of a loss of evidence or the expiration of limitations periods—the precise concerns that the Supreme Court observed justified its rejection of Plaintiff’s immunity claim in the first place. Slip Op. at 19. This Court should not countenance such an outcome. For the reasons set forth below, the Court should now dismiss the SAC with prejudice.

memo of law.pdf | DocDroid

In legal terms this is known as a smacking...
 
upsideguy said:
The news is within this phrase: ".....a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past...."
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That doesn't magically qualify as breaking news.

It simply means: we didn't find a damn thing, so we're going to keep looking. Like no one knew that...lol
 
dcsports said:
Pretty sickening abuse by the DA.
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How the conservative fascist mind works:

Trump's Gestapo beating and kidnapping random protesters = good

Trump complying with the Supreme Court and giving up his tax returns because he is under an active criminal investigation for tax and insurance fraud = bad.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
How the conservative fascist mind works:

Trump's Gestapo beating and kidnapping random protesters = good

Trump complying with the Supreme Court and refusing to give up his tax returns because he is under an active criminal investigation for tax and insurance fraud = bad.
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Yeah! That damned Constitution! It's always getting in the Democrats' way. Ain't it?
 
I remember when Obama had all that legal trouble and ended up in the clink because he was a crook.

;)
 
apdst said:
That doesn't magically qualify as breaking news.

It simply means: we didn't find a damn thing, so we're going to keep looking. Like no one knew that...lol
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The fact that Trump is now under active criminal investigation for tax and insurance fraud is new, and it's also breaking news.

Will it change the mind Trump supporters who could CARE LESS that Trump is a rotten piece of crap? No of course, not. That's not going to change. That's not new news. Trump supporters are bad people who have no morals, who have no ethics, who do not believe in the law. Trump supporters support crooks and thugs. Trump supporters do not care about the Rule of Law. Trump supporters are okay with their cult leader being a rotten, corrupt, idiotic piece of trash.
 
CaughtInThe said:
I remember when Obama had all that legal trouble and ended up in the clink because he was a crook.

;)
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Trump is a piece of crap. When Trump and his Republican enablers lose in a landslide this November, it will be glorious.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
The fact that Trump is now under active criminal investigation for tax and insurance fraud is new, and it's also breaking news.

Will it change the mind Trump supporters who could CARE LESS that Trump is a rotten piece of crap? No of course, not. That's not going to change. That's not new news. Trump supporters are bad people who have no morals, who have no ethics, who do not believe in the law. Trump supporters support crooks and thugs. Trump supporters do not care about the Rule of Law. Trump supporters are okay with their cult leader being a rotten, corrupt, idiotic piece of trash.
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A local DA can't prosecute Federal tax fraud. Is that what he's really investigating, or did you just make that up?
 
One of the biggest con men, our most famous con man, pulled off the con of the century by convincing a whole bunch of Southern men that he was not a con man.

Now, he simply copied the Rush and Sean model and went directly after their emotions but he still did it and it still worked. Bernie Madoff did not pull a better con.

Shame on Trump voters.
 
If he loses in November NYS will come after him and his crime family like a bunch of pit bulls..

Being an asshole, constantly insulting and calling people childish names, politicizing a pandemic and threatening to withhold money and supplies while NY was fighting off Covid... That all has consequences.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
If he loses in November NYS will come after him and his crime family like a bunch of pit bulls..

Being an asshole, constantly insulting and calling people childish names, politicizing a pandemic and threatening to withhold money and supplies while NY was fighting off Covid... That all has consequences.
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Which is why he has to be illegal during this election so that he can avoid the legal actions, for his illegal activities, waiting for him.
 
dcsports said:
Paywalled story, but it sounds like what's been going on. Pretty sickening abuse by the DA.
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That's the way business is done these days. If you want to investigate someone then you tell some reporter that you have reason to believe a crime was committed. After the reporter writes the story you use the news article as a basis for the investigation. It's the way they justified investigating the Trump campaign and it's unethical as all hell but ethics don't matter if you're a Democrat and you're doing what you're doing for the good of the nation, as you see it.
 
I loved it when President Nixon resigned in shame and disgrace. This will be fun too:

trump-in-handcuffs.jpg
 
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