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Could Trump Alienate His Base?

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This ran in the National Review a couple of weeks ago. I missed it.

However, in the wake of the Business Insider (paywall) piece revealing that Robert and Rebekah Mercer aren’t putting their money on the man they helped install in 2016, it’s worth a read.

It is a very frank assessment.

Trump is criss crossing Florida this weekend, trying to vacuum up cash. One stop is a ballroom event at Doral, even though indoor events like this are banned in Covid hot Florida right now.

Donald Trump: Could Drift from Populism Alienate His Base? | National Review
 
TomFitz said:
This ran in the National Review a couple of weeks ago. I missed it.

However, in the wake of the Business Insider (paywall) piece revealing that Robert and Rebekah Mercer aren’t putting their money on the man they helped install in 2016, it’s worth a read.

It is a very frank assessment.

Trump is criss crossing Florida this weekend, trying to vacuum up cash. One stop is a ballroom event at Doral, even though indoor events like this are banned in Covid hot Florida right now.

Donald Trump: Could Drift from Populism Alienate His Base? | National Review
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That was a reasonably fair article but for his base, I do believe it’ll come down to this,

Or will this shape up to be an election regarding two diametrically opposed visions: Trump’s defense of the American way of life versus Biden’s bumbling, complacent enabling of its assault?
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This base?

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No, Trump cannot alienate his base. What more could he possibly do that he hasn't already done? Ut oh, probably shouldn't have asked that. I think the base has become used to following him off the cliff.
 
switt said:
No, Trump cannot alienate his base. What more could he possibly do that he hasn't already done? Ut oh, probably shouldn't have asked that. I think the base has become used to following him off the cliff.
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Oh he could but he’d have to do it, not Dems and not the press.
 
his thirty whatever percent is way too invested to back down now. hopefully that isn't enough to get him another electoral win. he'll possibly lose the popular vote again, though, unless Republicans get even better at cheating and suppressing the vote.
 
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Rexedgar said:
This base?
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LOL, yes, that base. Please understand that the sparse crowd is due to the tornado and lighting that was digitally removed from the picture by Hillary.
 
Helix said:
his thirty whatever percent is way too invested to back down now. hopefully that isn't enough to get him another electoral win. he'll possibly lose the popular vote again, though, unless Republicans get even better at cheating and suppressing the vote.
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Lol, and yet you claimed was righties that wouldn’t accept the results. If it’s a serious concern for you, though, why do you support making it easier to cheat?
 
"Could Trump Alienate His Base?"

No. His approval is already slowly going back up to 44%. We've seen this dance play out countless times over the last 3.5 years, and there's no reason to think a little thing like a virus that's killed 157,000 Americans as a result of his malevolence is going to be any different.
 
Trump could try for the black vote.


That would alienate his base.


Trump's base is non college, whites who are afraid of black people.
 
X Factor said:
Lol, and yet you claimed was righties that wouldn’t accept the results. If it’s a serious concern for you, though, why do you support making it easier to cheat?
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Chancellor Squirrelhead said that, and i don't do opposite day. be best.
 
swing_voter said:
Trump could try for the black vote.


That would alienate his base.


Trump's base is non college, whites who are afraid of black people.
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It's hard to say if their fear of minorities is great than their hatred of liberals. I can't decide.
 
Cardinal said:
It's hard to say if their fear of minorities is great than their hatred of liberals. I can't decide.
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Perfect example, there is no way that base will ever question Trump. He's got them locked in with blinders on.
 
TomFitz said:
This ran in the National Review a couple of weeks ago. I missed it.

However, in the wake of the Business Insider (paywall) piece revealing that Robert and Rebekah Mercer aren’t putting their money on the man they helped install in 2016, it’s worth a read.

It is a very frank assessment.

Trump is criss crossing Florida this weekend, trying to vacuum up cash. One stop is a ballroom event at Doral, even though indoor events like this are banned in Covid hot Florida right now.

Donald Trump: Could Drift from Populism Alienate His Base? | National Review
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No, no president loses his base whoever the president is. Perhaps I should say with the exception of Nixon. But he still had 50% of all Republicans thinking him innocent and not wanting him to leave on the day Nixon resigned. Even then, Nixon retained most of his base right up to the end, it was those somewhat Republicans that fled, that supported him only because of the R behind his name, not the staunch Nixon supporters.

I suppose it may depend on how one defines base. I usually go by a president's base being those who strongly approve, not somewhat approve of his job, those who view Trump Very favorable vs. somewhat favorable. The strongly and very. Not somewhat's as they kind be wishy washy. Those Republicans who viewed Trump either very favorable or strongly approved of his over all job performance was 60% back at the end of Jan 2017, today it's at 63%. So his base hasn't shrank, stayed just about the same among Republicans. Nationwide, all Americans, all adults back in Jan 2017, his very favorable, strongly approve was at 27%, today, 26%.

I'd say no base desertions, fair weather supporters, yes. Not his base which is completely different.
 
switt said:
perfect example, there is no way that base will ever question Trump. He's got them locked in with blinders on.
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Of the 44% of Americans in Trump's base, I think about 3% have blinders on. The other 41% know exactly what they're doing.
 
TomFitz said:
This ran in the National Review a couple of weeks ago. I missed it.

However, in the wake of the Business Insider (paywall) piece revealing that Robert and Rebekah Mercer aren’t putting their money on the man they helped install in 2016, it’s worth a read.

It is a very frank assessment.

Trump is criss crossing Florida this weekend, trying to vacuum up cash. One stop is a ballroom event at Doral, even though indoor events like this are banned in Covid hot Florida right now.

Donald Trump: Could Drift from Populism Alienate His Base? | National Review
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The National Review are Never-Trumpers. They've made themselves completely irrelevant.

Do you really think the base would ever feel alienated enough to vote for the riot-loving statue-smashing alien-importing open borders Democrats? Not a chance - no matter what the NeverTrumpers say.
 
Cardinal said:
"Could Trump Alienate His Base?"

No. His approval is already slowly going back up to 44%. We've seen this dance play out countless times over the last 3.5 years, and there's no reason to think a little thing like a virus that's killed 157,000 Americans as a result of his malevolence is going to be any different.
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What is there to approve of?
 
Even Herbert Hoover got 39% of the vote.
 
j brown's body said:
What is there to approve of?
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The same thing he's been doing for the last 3.5 years: sticking it to the libs.

Letting a virus rampage through the whole country, killing trump supporters and Democrats alike, is sticking it to the libs, I guess.
 
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Cardinal said:
The same thing he's been doing for the 3.5 years: sticking it to the libs.

Letting a virus rampage through the whole country, killing trump supporters and Democrats alike, is sticking it to the libs, I guess.
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Death-a-minute Donald stickin' it to the libs.
 
X Factor said:
That was a reasonably fair article but for his base, I do believe it’ll come down to this,
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Agree it's going to boil down to dichotomous choices. American capitalism vs. socialism. Law and order vs. rioting and chaos. Safety vs. crime.
Preservation of suburbis vs. forced economic integration and disintegration of the aforementioned. Secured borders and orderly immigration vs. open borders. Americans first vs. supporting the illegal population with our taxes and watching our resources get sucked. Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to America or continuing outsourcing to our detriment on every level.
 
Acadia said:
Agree it's going to boil down to dichotomous choices. American capitalism vs. socialism. Law and order vs. rioting and chaos. Safety vs. crime.
Preservation of suburbis vs. forced economic integration and disintegration of the aforementioned. Secured borders and orderly immigration vs. open borders. Americans first vs. supporting the illegal population with our taxes and watching our resources get sucked. Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to America or continuing outsourcing to our detriment on every level.
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Are those the only choices FOX is giving you? How about a choice for a level headed leader. I haven't seen those jobs coming back or that coal fired car. I have seen 150K dead, unemployment at a record level, chaos in the streets, .... Trump is neither level headed nor a leader.
 
The only way Trump's base will erode is if FOX deems it so. That 30% gets 100% of its fake news from FOX.
 
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