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Court orders release of Black Michigan teen who was jailed for missing schoolwork

Hypothetical context is not the same thing as context.

This from the guy who claims it’s a fact that the judge ordered homework as a way to be sure she’d end up in jail.
 
This from the guy who claims it’s a fact that the judge ordered homework as a way to be sure she’d end up in jail.

Do you think it's likely a teenager with some clear issues with behavior is going to turn in 100% of homework assignments? Would a reasonable person expect that?
 
There comes a point when those arguing to keep this teen locked up have to admit they just like seeing people of color behind bars.

That’s a pretty stupid thing to say.
 
You can bet your bottom dollar on that.

Well according the the articles I read there are
other considerations that I’m not sure are part of this discussion.

- Although only convicted once of assault she apparently has a history of hitting and biting her mother.

- Although only convicted of one theft, a school cellphone, she apparently has a history of theft.

- She has been diagnosed with learning disabilities and emotional problems.

- Due to the pandemic State of Michigan is current under an executive order from the governor to not incarcerate anyone who doesn’t pose a threat to society.

- The girl is not “in jail” - at least not the kind that I think most people in this thread are envisioning. Rather she is confined to a youth center where she is supposed to be getting help for her learning disabilities and emotional.


First point: judges do not have unlimited authority in setting probation conditions. Unconstitutional conditions, illegal conditions and conditions that don’t bear on the actual crime are voided by appeals courts.

Second point: The judge found that the girl was a threat based on her past behavior with her mother and thus sidestepped the governor’s order. On the face of it I’m not sure that holds much water. On the other hand the kid has obvious problems and if she was getting help confining her may be a good thing.

Final point: The release is temporary, there will be hearing on whether to make it permanent in a month.
 
Remember, in the minds of some people, the most important aspect of this story is that the 15 year-old needs to be punished for her crimes. When she failed to complete the terms of her probation, prison is the logical next step. If she fails to turn her life around while behind bars, then more prison is the next appropriate step.

They don't want to ask tough questions like why does she not get it? Why is she different from her classmates who do complete their homework? What is lacking in her life that incarceration is supposed to address? Maybe she just needed someone to beat her ass black and blue to get her to understand.

Nope. What we need is some good old goddamn law and order! Lock those little bastards up until they learn some goddamn respect!
 
So again, there should be no consequences for actions right? If I commit a crime, there should be ABSOLUTELY NO jail time because we are in a pandemic right? The law doesn't apply right?

That's not what he said.
 
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