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At least 45 arrested after protesters throw explosives and rocks at police in Seattle, authorities s

It's no longer about justice for George Floyd.

You're right about that, Trix. It's gone past that. Y'all should have listened before. The folks that are coming out now will be the type not all that interested in the original cause. They are coming out now because they are seeing things they simply cannot stand for, and those are going to be far more dangerous than the initial protesters asking for change. You good with your darling ushering in full scale insurrection?
 
The rhetoric is now meaningless... we have people hurt, we have businesses harmed, and less police in the face of these riots equates to more violence.

Autonomous zones, safe zones, whatever you want to call them next all failed. This is no longer about civil rights, no longer about law enforcement treatment of minorities, or even police militarization... this is all excused violence and the very reason I am just as harsh on modern liberalism as anything Republican.

It is licensed intimidation, hatred, and designed conflict courtesy of modern liberalism.

Extremely well said!
 
That you believe is irrelevant. There is zero evidence that the police are arresting people because of their politics. They are arresting people for breaking the law. Pretending otherwise is just more of you making things up.

Fox News is rotting your brain.

1. They are exceeding their authority by arresting people for breaking local and state law. This is something that local law enforcement is responsible for.

2. They are doing more than just arresting people for suspected crimes:

This is a good summary of the various strands of evidence indicating the federal agents are doing much more than just protecting federal property:

4 lawsuits that challenge Trump's federal agents in Portland test issues other cities will likely face

Video evidence:

Videos Show How Federal Officers Escalated Violence in Portland - The New York Times

But if you want to accept at face value, the things Trump says, someone known to be an unrepentant liar..be my guest:

President Trump made 18,000 false or misleading claims:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e-18000-false-or-misleading-claims-1170-days/

Trump Has Made More Than 18,000 False Claims Since Taking Office. Voters May Have Finally Had Enough. – Mother Jones

I am not a trump supporter so you long biased rant is rather meaningless.

Oh, really? So, did you vote for Trump in 2016? Are you going to vote for him this November despite his continued corruption, obstruction of justice, and bad leadership?

It does demonstrate more of your biased mind reading act though. But it’s not your hate for trump and his supporters that makes you not a moderate it’s you far left wing views.

There is nothing "far left" about recognizing Republicans and Trump supporters are motiviated by religious and race issues. It's just a practical reality.

And if you did believe in the constitution and the rule of law you wouldn’t be making excuses for the people rioting. And you for sure wouldn’t be attacking the people trying to enforce the law.

It's not the reponsibility of the federal government to perform local policing actions. This is a power reserved to the states.

But you don't know this because you don't know anything about the Constitution.
 
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Actually this is the America you asked for when you voted for trump.

Are you not entertained?

I have to admit, it is kind of entertaining.

But I am not sure I'm getting your point. Are you saying that conservatives, libertarians, right wingers in general winning an election is adequate reason to expect rioting and constant ridicule? It's the right's fault for voting for their guy?

If that's the case, you better hope the right wing doesn't figure out these tactics, I can see a bunch of constitutionalists, who in the past bunkered down, take over a city instead, call it Liberty City or something (like CHAZ), or decide to actually riot instead of peacefully protest as they do now on occasion, when any left wing politician tries to take their rights away.

Will you say "This is the America you wanted" to progressives if they succeed in voting in a progressive but the only response from the normal people is violence?
 
You're right about that, Trix. It's gone past that. Y'all should have listened before. The folks that are coming out now will be the type not all that interested in the original cause. They are coming out now because they are seeing things they simply cannot stand for, and those are going to be far more dangerous than the initial protesters asking for change. You good with your darling ushering in full scale insurrection?

Save your lectures for Sunday services.
 
You're right, from the perspective of Trump supporters it's about keeping black people in "their place."

Race baiting is soooo passé...

When you think of something spiffier, let me know.
 
Save your lectures for Sunday services.

I know, I know, too much reality. So much easier to suck your teeth at those uppity black folks. Who are now joined by white Mom's and veterans.

You guys are ****ed now...but don't worry, your daily affirmations praising Trump will save you... ;) :lol:
 
Save your lectures for Sunday services.

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I have to admit, it is kind of entertaining.

I know, that’s the point. You voted for trump for entertainment, and you got it. This is your entertainment. This is what you wanted.
 
QUOTE=OlNate;1072342162] They are coming out now because they are seeing things they simply cannot stand for, and those are going to be far more dangerous than the initial protesters asking for change.
What are these 'things' you refer to?
You good with your darling ushering in full scale insurrection?
Your darling? Who is that?
 
If these violent rioters achieve their goal of getting their candidate Biden elected, I guess that will be the model in future elections. If you don’t like the party in power, destroy cities, kill, injure and intimidate. At least that’s the democrat party’s method.
I doubt that the Republicans would ever do that. They'll accept the results of the election, as they've always done, but the Democrats will again riot if they don't get their way. The country should be better prepared for them next time.
 
Race baiting is soooo passé...

When you think of something spiffier, let me know.

It's true. Trump supporters don't think black people should be allowed to advocate for their own interests.
 
It's true. Trump supporters don't think black people should be allowed to advocate for their own interests.
Is that what Republicans have told you or did you just make it up? Are you unaware of this Administration's success with increased Black and Hispanic employment?
 
Trump’s America.

Trump shouldn't have to clean up after these worthless democrat leaders who have failed to maintain order. People are afraid to come out of their homes because of the lawless chaos created by these criminals masquerading as protesters.
 
The rhetoric is now meaningless... we have people hurt, we have businesses harmed, and less police in the face of these riots equates to more violence.

Autonomous zones, safe zones, whatever you want to call them next all failed. This is no longer about civil rights, no longer about law enforcement treatment of minorities, or even police militarization... this is all excused violence and the very reason I am just as harsh on modern liberalism as anything Republican.

It is licensed intimidation, hatred, and designed conflict courtesy of modern liberalism.

Police brutality is the reason for the protests in the first place. Where there was de-escalation by the police, there was less rioting and looting. Where police escalated, there was greater chaos. Over the last couple months the protests have been settling down...until Trump sent in mercenaries to provoke them again, and voila, more civil unrest. The police are the problem. They are the cause of the protests, the cause of rioting, and they are stoking and increasing them.

And all of it is being used to justify the mass illegalization of political dissidents in this country, and all to distract from the fact that Trump has done nothing to stop a pandemic killing 150,000 Americans.

It really does not take much to see that Trump deliberately stoked this to manufacture a campaign narrative.

Send in unaccountable private mercenaries to kidnap, strip-search, and generally harass peaceful protesters - throw more police brutality at protests against police brutality - and, duh, get more people protesting more angrily; create the problem so he can promise to solve it.

And then you inevitably get a bunch of people looking at the problem, not at how he deliberately created it.


Sure, sure. If the police just ignore them, they'll go away, right?

Lie about what he was saying. Very clever.
 
Trump shouldn't have to clean up after these worthless democrat leaders who have failed to maintain order. People are afraid to come out of their homes because of the lawless chaos created by these criminals masquerading as protesters.
The Democrats will take their talking points from their leaders, such as Jerry Nadler. They'll soon be saying also that any mention of riots in Portland is a myth. Jerry Nadler Says Antifa Violence In Portland and Over The United States Is Just a Myth - YouTube
 
Good to see that you still support such violence then.

Anything to keep the division and hate going by the left.

You would think these idiots instead of wasting months protesting, spreading this pandemic, creating chaos, and mayhem would realize they need to vote these leaders out of office that created this problem. It is the pathetic leaders who failed to do something about the few bad police for decades now. Leadership is what is needed not more chaos, mayhem, and spreading of this virus. I feel sorry for all the people that are afraid to leave their homes because of these violent losers. it is unimaginable that these pathetic leaders did not bring this to a stop months ago. You just can't fix stupid. With all the problems Trump needs to address now he has to the local leaders job as well.
 
Trump shouldn't have to clean up after these worthless democrat leaders who have failed to maintain order. People are afraid to come out of their homes because of the lawless chaos created by these criminals masquerading as protesters.

Trump created this mess. He’s not responsible for decades of police brutality, but he took a fire and threw Molotov cocktails at it so he could give you images on your tv so you could justify your hatred for liberals.

He did all this for you. Are you not entertained?
 
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