I understand that your fevor has blinded you to the voting decisions of the Democrats in the past...and present but we can clarify this for you if need be. I too hate the republicans. Mostly though for their lack of action on the Democrat installed policies and incompetance by trying to be bipartisan when that is not why we voted for them in the first place. I say we kick them all out...or at least hold the appropriate people accountable.
Ah but Comrade, contracts are negotiated and therefore apt to be renegociated when trying to keep the business running. Even Marxist theory allows and to a point asks for just that. Good faith isn't exactly what I would call some of those contract methods though. Threatening "scabs" that come to replace union workers with violence is hardly in good sport.
To be consistent, which is what I was responding to with regard to danarhea's post, in 2005 I would have said, "
I do not want to be bailed out like Chrysler..."
It is easy to find that topic of mine, it is about Democrats and Debt. The topic is narrow, because it is personal, but the overall problem was not so narrow.
On page one of the topic I quoted Democrats; Please, these quotes are very important:
"Average family debt is higher than ever. And as they lose the struggle to make ends meet, one out of every seven middle class families may be bankrupt by the end of the decade.”
"And over time, fiscal discipline saves families thousands of dollars on their mortgages and credit cards.”
The solution the Democrats had to prevent that bankruptcy was not any goal to the FED (the job of Congress) for less than 50% debt to income ratio, where Greenspan had it set for unsound banking practices, which would have prevented little ACORNS from having 4000 square foot houses in upscale hoods while driving a truck, their solution was just to have "fiscal discipline." {said like Peter Lorre, who you can imagine as a bank clerk http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000048/}
How exactly would that work? Even with fiscal discipline by the Bush administration and the Republican Congress, the black in the hood up in DeKalb County would still be living in too big a house with no furniture with debt more than twice their income during good times. How is it not a time bomb!
Think about this for a minute. The Democrats are not stupid. The Democrats knew the only way to avoid a problem with the bad Community Reinvestment mortgages was to maintain good times. They knew the middle class families were struggling to make ends meet. They knew credit cards have to be figured into debt to income ratios with regard to the mortgages they knew were bad. Knowing what they knew, instead of making businesses give safe and sound debt to income ratios, it looks to me like they wanted fiscal discipline for the anticipated bail out
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When the boss is looking for stuff to be signed off, so he will look good getting in under budget before Christmas, and the inspector on the line is dragging his feet for the one whose name is at the very top of the list on the public bulletin board of those not in the union, the only choice is to join the union so you can consistently keep the boss happy. I do NOT want to talk about the unions even in this topic, because the problem causing all this is more than that.
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What if there had been no rise in gas prices or other rise in food costs from burning feed corn to push the 2005 "one out of every seven middle class families" over the edge? Would the auto industry have this problem now? Would the big head on Fox have changed his tune? No need to discuss the ticking time bomb of the the union wages, or the horrible Corporate Average Fuel Economy being the reason why people prefer foreign economy cars when gas prices go up.
What I want to see is reasonable laws to try and prevent bailouts. Fiscal discipline is good to have for bad things you cannot predict, but a good law is better for preventing those things you can predict.
Comrade, if Republicans cannot do those reasonable laws, and their only solution is to bail or let die like a Libertarian in a Dickens novel, this Republican might as well cut the Democrats some slack.