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Defying U.S., China and Iran Form Trade and Military Partnership

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In a fresh new ominous move, China and Iran are forming a partnership:


Defying U.S., China and Iran Near Trade and Military Partnership

Iran and China have quietly drafted a sweeping economic and security partnership that would clear the way for billions of dollars of Chinese investments in energy and other sectors, undercutting the Trump administration’s efforts to isolate the Iranian government because of its nuclear and military ambitions.

The partnership, detailed in an 18-page proposed agreement obtained by The New York Times, would vastly expand Chinese presence in banking, telecommunications, ports, railways and dozens of other projects. In exchange, China would receive a regular — and, according to an Iranian official and an oil trader, heavily discounted — supply of Iranian oil over the next 25 years.

The document also describes deepening military cooperation, potentially giving China a foothold in a region that has been a strategic preoccupation of the United States for decades. It calls for joint training and exercises, joint research and weapons development and intelligence sharing — all to fight “the lopsided battle with terrorism, drug and human trafficking and cross-border crimes.”

The partnership — first proposed by China’s leader, Xi Jinping, during a visit to Iran in 2016 — was approved by President Hassan Rouhani’s cabinet in June, Iran’s foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, said last week.




Iran and China Draft 25-year Trade and Military Agreement

Iran and China have drafted an economic and security partnership that would allow for billions of dollars in Chinese investments in energy and other sectors - including the military - despite the Trump administration's efforts to isolate Tehran from the global economy.

The partnership between the two countries was detailed in an 18-page document seen by the New York Times, and showed that China would expand its presence in Iran's banking and telecommunications sectors as well as railways, ports and other projects.

In exchange for this investment, Iran would supply Beijing with a heavily discounted supply of oil over the next 25 years, an Iranian official told the newspaper.

China is a key market for Iranian crude oil exports, which have been dampened by US economic sanctions imposed after Washington's 2018 withdrawal from the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) nuclear deal with Tehran.


Two people briefed on the China deal told the New York Times it would be worth $400bn - with over 100 projects detailed in the document.

"Two ancient Asian cultures, two partners in the sectors of trade, economy, politics, culture and security with a similar outlook and many mutual bilateral and multilateral interests will consider one another strategic partners," the document reads.

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Still, critics have pointed out that China's other investment deals within its Belt and Road initiative in Africa and Asia have left those nations in major debt and duty-bound to the wishes of the Chinese government.

Deepening military cooperation
The draft document also details a deepening military relationship between China and Iran.

The deal would allow China to gain a foothold in a region where the US has had strategic residence for the last few decades.

The proposal outlines joint training and exercises, joint research and weapons development and intelligence sharing in "the lopsided battle with terrorism, drug- and human-trafficking and cross-border crimes".


It also proposes investment in two port facilities in Iran, along the coast of the Sea of Oman, which would add to an expanding list of ports that China has constructed along the Indian Ocean that give the country's military refueling stations running from the South China Sea to the Suez Canal.

China has been stepping up its military cooperation with Iran over the past decade. Since 2014, the People's Liberation Army Navy has visited Iran and participated in at least three military exercises.

The expansion of military cooperation will be viewed with alarm in Washington. US warships have already tangled with Iranian forces in the Gulf and also deal with China's internationally disputed claim to much of the South China Sea.

The Pentagon declared China an adversary in its national security strategy in 2018.

"The United States will continue to impose costs on Chinese companies that aid Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism," a State Department spokeswoman told the New York Times.

Washington is also currently pushing to extend a UN arms embargo on Iran that is set to expire in October.
 
~ This is no surprise. Two evils of the world. China is on the ropes. They will do more of this.❌
 
One of the sadder aspects of the Bolton book was having to wade through his gleeful efteling of his efforts to undermine the Agreed Framework.

Sadly, his thoughts on the matter do not appear to include any realistic assesment of what might come next. Oh, there is vague nonsense about regime change, but no plan. And no recognition of what might fill the vacuum.

In other words, the same sort of jingoistic thinking that produced the Iraq War.

Earlier, the Teump regieme repudiated the Trans Pacific Partnership. thus providing Beijing another vacuum to fill.
 
I wasn't aware that other countries had to get the permission of the USA to form trade or military partnerships.
How about the UK, we're going to be signing loads of trade deals after Brexit do we need the permission of the US to sign those?
 
I wasn't aware that other countries had to get the permission of the USA to form trade or military partnerships.
How about the UK, we're going to be signing loads of trade deals after Brexit do we need the permission of the US to sign those?

I don't think anyone implied that any other country has to get the US's permission. It's just a colossal international relations failure that the Trump administration pushed two of our greatest threats closer together.
 
So when Trump blew up the Iran nuclear agreement retroactively and tried to cripple Iran with sanctions, he gave Iran no choice but to continue its nuclear weapon program and cozy up to China. Another Trump foreign policy failure.
 
No surprise. The largest share of Iranian oil exports - 25% - goes to China. Both countries would benefit from attempting to secure that continuing transaction. Since 1978, Iran has cozied up to the Soviet Union, then Russia, and now China.

So in keeping with the sentiments posted before me here, this is clearly all Jimmy Carter's fault. OMG! Carter is a democrat. Just another example of incompetent democrats...
 

If true, it sounds like China has entered into the kind of pariah status enjoyed by Iran for so so long.

This might quickly turn into the kind of economic paradise enjoyed between Cuba and Russia for so many years.

I wonder what "Intellectual Property" the Chinese will mine from Iran... ;)

I saw a little conversation between a talking head and an international trade economist in which they discussed the length of time needed for the Chinese Communist Economy to collapse after it severed ties to the US.

One said a little more than a year and the other said a little less.
 
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Well, that's not good. I wonder how much the State Department knew.

They probably missed it entirely.

They're STILL trying to prove that the International Man of Mystery, Carter Page, is a British Super Villain working with SMERSH.
 
One of the sadder aspects of the Bolton book was having to wade through his gleeful efteling of his efforts to undermine the Agreed Framework.

Sadly, his thoughts on the matter do not appear to include any realistic assesment of what might come next. Oh, there is vague nonsense about regime change, but no plan. And no recognition of what might fill the vacuum.

In other words, the same sort of jingoistic thinking that produced the Iraq War.

Earlier, the Teump regieme repudiated the Trans Pacific Partnership. thus providing Beijing another vacuum to fill.

If it doesn't lead directly to World War, Bolton doesn't really have any use for it.

He and Sam Elliot should be our team at the Olympic Mustache Pairs competition.

During the 60's and 70's, the East Germans won this event in the Mixed Doubles every year. ;)
 
I don't think anyone implied that any other country has to get the US's permission. It's just a colossal international relations failure that the Trump administration pushed two of our greatest threats closer together.

What has happened is that a turd ended up floating in a toilet bowl.

Stand back for a minute and let them work together to flush it.
 
So when Trump blew up the Iran nuclear agreement retroactively and tried to cripple Iran with sanctions, he gave Iran no choice but to continue its nuclear weapon program and cozy up to China. Another Trump foreign policy failure.

Has there been a success in dealing with Iran? It "feels" like there have been diplomatic failures with this group of thugs dating back to Alexander. Were they involved with any of the Ark of the Covenant battles?

China is trying now to add Iran to its colonization of this general region.

What could possibly go wrong?
 
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The world is already weaving new treaties inside the power vacuum Trump has created. This will keep happening in prior American spheres of influence.
 
One of the sadder aspects of the Bolton book was having to wade through his gleeful efteling of his efforts to undermine the Agreed Framework.

Sadly, his thoughts on the matter do not appear to include any realistic assesment of what might come next. Oh, there is vague nonsense about regime change, but no plan. And no recognition of what might fill the vacuum.

In other words, the same sort of jingoistic thinking that produced the Iraq War.

Earlier, the Teump regieme repudiated the Trans Pacific Partnership. thus providing Beijing another vacuum to fill.


TPP was the "cure" that was as bad as the disease. Might have been welcomed by the cosmopolitan jet-set America, but wasn't good for smalltown America.


The world is already weaving new treaties inside the power vacuum Trump has created. This will keep happening in prior American spheres of influence.

You mean like ISIS kept weaving its expanding tapestry while Obama turned a blind eye to their "JV team"?

China is dependent upon its largest customer by far, the United States. China gets way more out of the bilateral trading relationship than US does.
If they want to put their relationship with their most important customer in jeopardy, then they're doing a good job of that.

With the Iran partnership and the foray into the Middle East, China is now making a play to disrupt the American petrodollar relationship and unseat the US dollar as the world's global reserve currency - something which is fundamental to US economic survival.
 
One of the sadder aspects of the Bolton book was having to wade through his gleeful efteling of his efforts to undermine the Agreed Framework.

Sadly, his thoughts on the matter do not appear to include any realistic assesment of what might come next. Oh, there is vague nonsense about regime change, but no plan. And no recognition of what might fill the vacuum.

In other words, the same sort of jingoistic thinking that produced the Iraq War.

Earlier, the Teump regieme repudiated the Trans Pacific Partnership. thus providing Beijing another vacuum to fill.

Was China invited into the TPP?
 
I listened to the Beeb today. China is turbo pissed that Britain won't let them install spyware in their new 5g network. I've never heard a BBC interview get that heated before. There were economic threats and everything.
 
If true, it sounds like China has entered into the kind of pariah status enjoyed by Iran for so so long.

This might quickly turn into the kind of economic paradise enjoyed between Cuba and Russia for so many years.

I wonder what "Intellectual Property" the Chinese will mine from Iran... ;)

I saw a little conversation between a talking head and an international trade economist in which they discussed the length of time needed for the Chinese Communist Economy to collapse after it severed ties to the US.

One said a little more than a year and the other said a little less.

There is a big difference between what right wing talk radio listeners in the US think is a pariah, and what the rest of the world thinks.

Limpballs is still calling China “Red China” (along with his flat earth fans). No one else has used that phrase since the early 1970’s. (which reflects both the age and the backward looking world view of that audience).

Meanwhile, as Teump abandons world leadership, the Chinese move to fill the vacuum.

I have long feared that if the forces of isolationism ever got the levers of power in this country, that our role would diminish through a combination of neglect and/or jingoism.

The corruption part was a Trump speciality,

The US repudiated a global arms agreement on Iran, against the advice of the entire planet. Trump was told outright, that if the US tried to isolate Iran, the Chinese and the EU will fill the void.

Which is exactly what is happening.

Only, now that we’ve submarines our own deal, Iran is no longer under any commitment to refrain from developing nuclear weapons.
 
Birds of a feather.
 
Wingnuts elected a weak US president. What did you expect?

Who's your example of a president who's stronger/tougher on China & Iran??
 
What has happened is that a turd ended up floating in a toilet bowl.

Stand back for a minute and let them work together to flush it.

Good idea. The Trump administration has already abdicated the US's role as the hegemonic world leader. The only thing we have going for us anymore is military strength, so no one really cares what we think anyway.
 
Proof that China is desperate and that the harder economic line which the Trump administration finally forced upon China is working.

If Europe, Canada, Japan, Australia, and other strategic and economic allies all stick together, then China will be forced to change their mode of operations around the world. Them reaching out to the nation which is the largest sponsor of state terrorism only puts China back into the category of our enemy-- which is what their system is and always has been.
 
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