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Washington plans to announce retirement of 'Redskins' franchise name on Monday, per report

Fred C Dobbs II said:
Thanks for that. If this man speaks for the Native Americans then we should respect that. Another earlier report from several years ago said they had no objection and some said they had pride. This seems to be in line with the team owners decision.
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They have been waiting to change it for decades.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

Somebodies ***** is still hurting from another thread. Leave it alone...it should get better as long as you stop abusing yourself. If not, I'm sure your daddy can afford a gynecologist for you.
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Someone's angry. :boohoo:

I bet I know why. When even rich white wingers who acted tough just a few years ago and said they'd never change the name and are forced to bend the knee, little bitty white wingers like you know the end is near. :thumbs:
 
Master Debator said:
Someone's angry. :boohoo:

I bet I know why. When even rich white wingers who acted tough just a few years ago and said they'd never change the name and are forced to bend the knee, little bitty white wingers like you know the end is near. :thumbs:
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:lamo

Oh, its obvious who is 'angry'...the poor little boy that embarrasses his family and runs around chasing after me from thread to thread showing what a big little man he is. After all their hard work, your family deserves better representation. Its tragic.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

Oh, its obvious who is 'angry'...the poor little boy that embarrasses his family and runs around chasing after me from thread to thread showing what a big little man he is. After all their hard work, your family deserves better representation. Its tragic.
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Poor white winger, going to lose your country and culture because your country is rejecting you. :laughat:
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Yes, asking them would give me some first hand knowledge. After this many posts are you just picking up on that?
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Ask? Would you "ask" them if they are Redskins? And you're confident you would not get your ass handed to you?
 
Stealers Wheel said:
"Redskins" is and always has been a derogatory term referring to Native Americans. "Warriors" "Chiefs" and "Braves" do not share that legacy.

If you disagree then you would have no objection to a team known as Hebes, Spics, Jigaboos, Kikes, Guidos, Beaners, Rag heads, Gooks, or Chinks. Those names fit right in with "Redskins."
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As an Italian, I kind of like the sound of the “Jersey City Guidos” as a team name.
 
mrdeltoid said:
Thank God FedEx put pressure on Snyder to change the name. Finally some action to stop all these needless killings in big cities. This will help the covid19 pandemic as well. At long last, peace in the valley.
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So unless we deal with all the issues, dealing with one is wrong?
 
Blue Donkey said:
That would bring up the old days when fans called them the Hogs. I never understood why they wore pig noses at the stadium.

I keep thinking "Washington Wildcats" but there are already four teams with feline names.
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I think “hogs” referred to their offensive line.
 
grip said:
The capital is Washington, D.C., and it's named after George Washington, the first president of the United States, who owned slaves.

Why is red skin anymore derogatory than white skin, brown skin, or black skin?
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Ah, Duh.
 
The objection to “Redskins” is not much different than if there was a team called the New Orleans Darkies or the Houston Wetbacks. Figure it out.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Did you get this from any Native American source? If differentiating skin color is intended to 'demean a race' why do we refer to "Black Americans"?
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Redskin to Native Americans = nigger to African-Americans. During a meeting years ago with a NA group and the NFL, there were references to "the R word" by the Native Americans present. Native Americans have brown skin, not red skin, so it is also inaccurate.
 
Court Jester said:
I guess it just depends on one's perspective and how they view THEMSELVES. I am white, and if someone called me a "white skinned paleface blue eyed devil", I would turn to them and thank them for the compliment.
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By being white, you avoided all of the problems that racial minority members are stuck with your entire life. Pete Buttigeig made this point during the debate in South Carolina, referring to all seven candidates on stage.

But if you were a white NFL running back, your skin color would be subject to a tease. One year before a playoff game, Michael Bennett said Detroit's then-starter "is the best white running back in the NFL."
 
Common Sense 1 said:
What about the Chicago Black Hawks? Once the idiots start down this road there is no end!

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OK, just come out and say you have no problem referring to an ethnic group with a slur. Yes, "Redskin" is a slur. The fact that you are ignorant or indifferent does not change the fact.

On the other hand "Blackhawk" is not a slur. It is simply the name of a particular proud Native American group.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
What about the Chicago Black Hawks? Once the idiots start down this road there is no end!

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The Blackhawks were named after a specific person.

Chicago Blackhawks name and logo controversy - Wikipedia.
The National Hockey League (NHL)'s Chicago Blackhawks was named in honor of the U.S. 86th Infantry Division, which was nicknamed the "Blackhawk Division" after Black Hawk, a Native American chief; the team's founder, Frederic McLaughlin, having served in that division.
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Redskin is a general racial slur against Native Americans.
 
Nickyjo said:
So unless we deal with all the issues, dealing with one is wrong?
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If they really cared about Native Americans, the millions it will cost to change the name of a football team, would be better if spent on college funds, jobs, housing, etc. for the indigenous people. JMHO
 
mrdeltoid said:
If they really cared about Native Americans, the millions it will cost to change the name of a football team, would be better if spent on college funds, jobs, housing, etc. for the indigenous people. JMHO
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Who is "they"? The name offends. The team changes the name. The franchise can both change the name and give scholarships to Native Americans. The team would look ridiculous if they said "the name stays but here is some money."

Year ago the song "Old Man River" about poor black laborers had an intro with the words, "Niggers all work on the Mississippi, niggers all work while the white folk play." It evolved into, "Here we all work on the Mississippi, here we all work while the rich folk play." Same sort of thing. There are evolving standards manners in our society. Many of us stopped calling women "girls" a generation ago. We abandoned the word "negro" as well. (Some people have difficulty keeping up. My late mom said to me in the 1960s, "Be careful, Nicky. Colored people don't like it when you call them black.")

Look, we are all groping towards a greater understanding of how to function in a complex and diverse society, one that has often hidden ugly parts of its history, such as lynching. I stand for the national anthem and remove my cap at ball games not because I believe in saluting flags, but because I respect those who do. If I thought as Kaepernick did and felt that I had to make a statement in a time of police killings, I might do that as well. There will be dumb stuff -- just look at some of the silly campus rules. But in the presence of a national leader who has lied about and insulted so many, who suggested that police not be gentle with suspects, there is also justifiable anger, which of course leads to overreaction.
 
Nickyjo said:
Who is "they"? The name offends. The team changes the name. The franchise can both change the name and give scholarships to Native Americans. The team would look ridiculous if they said "the name stays but here is some money."

Year ago the song "Old Man River" about poor black laborers had an intro with the words, "Niggers all work on the Mississippi, niggers all work while the white folk play." It evolved into, "Here we all work on the Mississippi, here we all work while the rich folk play." Same sort of thing. There are evolving standards manners in our society. Many of us stopped calling women "girls" a generation ago. We abandoned the word "negro" as well. (Some people have difficulty keeping up. My late mom said to me in the 1960s, "Be careful, Nicky. Colored people don't like it when you call them black.")

Look, we are all groping towards a greater understanding of how to function in a complex and diverse society, one that has often hidden ugly parts of its history, such as lynching. I stand for the national anthem and remove my cap at ball games not because I believe in saluting flags, but because I respect those who do. If I thought as Kaepernick did and felt that I had to make a statement in a time of police killings, I might do that as well. There will be dumb stuff -- just look at some of the silly campus rules. But in the presence of a national leader who has lied about and insulted so many, who suggested that police not be gentle with suspects, there is also justifiable anger, which of course leads to overreaction.
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You're mother was not being racist at all, of course, because 'Colored' at the time was the 'Black' of today, and maybe there'll be another word meaning the same thing tomorrow. We all know what the 'C' in NAACP stands for. People may soon shrink in horror if the word 'Black' is used.

Perhaps we're all just a little too quick to assign bad intentions to people just because they may use yesterday's term. Some Native Americans have said they were 'Redskin' as a badge of honor and the logo represents their warrior tradition. Perhaps those who felt this way have changed their minds in these more sensitive times but that was once the case. I worked and lived among these people for a few years and they did not subscribe to whining.
 
X Factor said:
Doesn’t seem like “Warriors” is quite accurate. Maybe something along the lines of Caved Like Bitches.
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how about Washington Foreskins......
 
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