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Trump commutes sentence of longtime adviser Roger Stone

The jury tainted by this partisan Trump-hating democrat party hack?

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Or the Obamanite democrat judge overseeing the unjust kangaroo court show trial?

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I'm so HAPPY that I am not a cynical American who genuinely believes that our legal system is corrupted in a way that you describe because then I would not be living in the USA. What you're describing is RUSSIA, not AMERICA. I feel so sorry for you that you believe the BS that you write and I'm happy that I do not share your cynicism. My America is worth fighting for you. Your America is Trump, corruption and no faith in the American way. Very sad.
 
Yeah, the reason trump commuted Stones sentence rather than pardoning him was because a pardon wouldn't preclude stone from testifying.

Take you gaslighting attempt elsewhere, please.

Testifying where? There is no trial.
And what does Trump have to do with what Mueller could have done himself?
 
Its not clear how USA and NATO increased defense spending, support for lower fuel prices, arming Ukraine is proof of an "asset". But ok.

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We already know what Flynn said and we know that there was no crime or national security issue involved. And we know that the FBI agents and now the DOJ were not convinced he lied.
So that is now dismissed.
With respect to Stone, the question is what did Mueller say Stone lied about. And what Mueller said is that after the Wikileaks release, the campaign was excited and reached out to Stone to see if he could reach out to Wikileaks about future releases (and Stone lied about this).
What this means in reality is that there was no conspiracy because if there had been one there would have been no reason to reach out to Stone.

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Because Flynn was fired and there was no crime.

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As above.

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So now you are complaining that Trump didn't gripe to Germany et. al enough about their efforts to become more dependent on Russian energy.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesnt.

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I guess he completed what Obama started.


All of your answers were purposefully obtuse. Damn, it makes me mad. I refuse to believe that this nonsense is a true representation of your intellect. You are smarter than this:

1) Trump clearly withheld funds and dangled armament in front of Ukraine against Russian aggression, for no reason truly explained. The fact that European financing towards NATO has increased yearly, since Trump's false accusation of it being obsolete, should not distract from Trump's seemingly clear agenda to open the door to Russian geopolitical expansion into western Europe. Pressure to one (somewhat necessary, but not on a public stage), does not excuse what was allowed for a clear American enemy. Again, for an entire year, for no real reason explained, TTIP was tabled, which allowed Russian foreign policy to flourish into even Western Europe. Why? Um...malicious or just stupidity?

2) Flynn and Stone's crime was that they chose to lie to the FBI; and this absolutely involved them choosing their loyalty to an individual (Trump) over their country (making them, especially Flynn, an American disgrace). Simple enough, yeah? But why lie? Even Trump tossed out the illusion that he didn't understand why they lied. Nothing to hide, means nothing to lie about, right? Clearly, Flynn figured that he had to lie about something. Enter the historians to help future generations understand better than their dip**** fathers and mothers who allowed themselves to be easily duped and susceptible to contemporary radical right-wing manipulation. ...And this is where I think of the duped conservative history when it comes to Nixon.

3) No, the fundamentals of a nation's foreign policy is very clear to those who read and study it. Germany and France's foreign policy do not include a dependence on Russia for their energy needs. It's clearly written in a way that involves multi-national defense and American support. But given the choice between national survival and what those trusted have chosen to politically do, "nations" will eventually choose survival. This is why much of eastern Europe's decisions and some of western European decisions look like while Trump played Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) games.

4) Obama's "wait-and-see" policy is not the retreat that Trump's decisions have created. Trump's routine unilateral decisions contradict even his own published 2017 National Strategic Strategy. Whatever Trump has done has nothing to do with an Obama agenda. In fact, as much as you people ignorantly complain about Obama's policies I would think that celebrating Trump's "completion" of said policy would be disgusting to you. This is how you should be able to understand how absolutely full of **** your partisan whining is.

To this day, we (those of us who actually give a damn about our America) have no idea why Trump would encourage this behavior. But this is beyond you, isn't it?
 
I'm sure there are far more than a dozen. One only has to stay among the far-right. Now your desperation has you pretending that Russia wanted a Clinton victory instead of a Trump victory, despite the very clear and widely understood evidence that a Trump victory was the target.

Listen carefully. I don't know who Russia may or may not been been rooting far, and I don't think anyone else does either, because Russia is a big place and there are tens of millions of Russians who have different opinions and they do not speak for Russia anyway. What I said was that I read a report that stated new unsealed records from congressional investigations showed that Brennan deliberately hid evidence that Russia wanted Hillary to win. I also invited you to post evidence that the report was false.

See? Even his Russian friend has told you that your far-right garbage is lying to you. Trump provided you a false narrative that Russia actually wanted Hillary to win in the hopes that you would play along and keep admiring your delusion of him. You choose, before our very eyes, to obey. Don't ask me to prove any of your nonsense false. It's an insult.

What is the logic here? Democrats claim Putin is a liar and a deceiver except when he spouts democrat party lines? I don't believe Putin and I don't believe democrats have proven their case.

What a joke. You really do have no idea what the GOP's anti-democratic game has been since 2014 do you? I mean, are you even aware that it has been the GOP that has been caught actually committing voter fraud recently?

If you are ignorant of the massive evidences of past voter fraud then I hardly see how your ignorance is worth considering.
 
One, as was the case in Bush's 2000 victory, Trump's victory in 2016 was a matter of the Electoral College. And he ran his campaign on pure hatred and immorality, immediately reneging on his promises to you.

Two, it is not the DNC that has a documented modern history of dishonest and destructive tactics to win election. The GOP, as high as the Supreme Court, has been found guilty of voter suppression in the form of racial gerrymandering, select poll closures, unconstitutional gubernatorial decisions, and actual voter fraud. Your backwards state is among the greatest offenders.

As per the routine, you have no idea what you are talking about and cling to a partisan's delusion. Trump will lose, and your better Republican/conservative fellows will assist because they know what they have lost with Trump. Not you though, huh? You have no idea what you have lost.

It takes a great deal of ignorance or stupidity for Americans believe efforts to tighten security measures in voting are evil because they endanger the possibility of voter fraud.
 
Mueller found plenty. There were multiple grounds for impeachment in that report.

But the GOP sold it’s integrity and it’s duty and 9subsequently, it’s authority) to this fool’s gold fuhrer. So they made sure he would never be held accountable.

so, Trump, being Trump, goes right out and does it again.

And the angry old white flat earthers cheer for it.

Of course. The standard democrat crap excuse propagandist story line. Trump cheated Hillary out of the election because he is bad and Hillary was good. You can believe that crap if you like but believing the=at crap does not speak well of a person's perception and judgment.

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Let it stand? Lol..you people and your stupid conspiracies about everything. Does it ever get old being a victim with everything?

I swear you could be stealing a tv and you would blame the cops for arresting you over nothing.

You people are a ****ing joke

I do not blame cops for arresting people by the book. That is a dummass BLM crooked narrative.
 
Robert Mueller had nothing at all to do with Peter Limone's incarceration. Mueller hadn't even begun law school when Limone was convicted.

Pay attention. I did not say he had a part in the conviction. He had a part in the cover up and a big part in making sure Limone stayed in prison for the last 10 years of his cruel unjust sentence even though he would have known the man was innocent if he had just bothered to read the FBI files he refused to allow investigators and Congress access to.
 
That's not what you said. You said Stone's convictions were overturned on appeal. What appeal? No such thing has happened. You appear to be completely uniformed on this and how the justice system works. That 33 year old mob case doesn't have a damn thing to do with Stone's case. Totally different animal. Stone was convicted on all 7 felony counts by a jury that didn't have deliberate that long on them because the evidence of his guilt was so overwhelming. Even Billy Barr said that Stone's prosecution was "righteous" and that his sentence was a fair one.

Of course the democrat jury did not have to deliberate long while the democrat media showcased their every move as they pondered the charges leveled by the democrat prosecutors using biased democrat witch hunt investigation 'evidence' as a foundation, in a democrat kangaroo court under the supervision of a radical leftist Obamanite democrat judge. The jury, the prosecutor, the judge, the news media, the witch-hunt team and democrat politicians all knew what the verdict was going to be before the trial even began.
 
You can't really expect us to believe an article from ROGER STONE"S WEBSITE??? Who do you think you're fooling? You're proof that it was a bogus trial is Stone's own words? I do not think I've ever seen a worse "proof" than this one. Who do you think will believe you? UNBELIEVABLE! WOW and WOW!

I will believe the reports I have read which all agree, until or unless someone posts credible evidence that the reports are false. Just saying "Nuh-uh" is not a refutation.
 
Trump's lame duck session is going to be an epic ****-show meltdown.

I guarantee he will try to pre-pardon himself and Barr. What's more is how much of a tantrunm he's going to throw when he realizes there is no federal pardon for state crimes as the NY AG comes after his criming.

I can see the transition period will be a 3 ring circus courtesy of Trump.
 
I do not blame cops for arresting people by the book. That is a dummass BLM crooked narrative.

Why is it anytime I make a statement like I did you guys always just full literal?

It's like you all where collectively dropped on your heads as a kid.

Good job on missing the point
 
I"m sorry to tell you,again, that the economy WILL NEVER RECOVER as long as the pandemic is ravaging. Why can't you understand this obvious principle? 70K new cases of Covid every day = NO ECONOMIC RECOVERY. You can say or write whatever you want but the one indisputable TRUTH is that if Covid-19 is out of control we're all doomed to a terrible economy. Read my signature it's good advice for you to try to adopt.

I believe you are right. Two thousand years ago the Bible predicted that wicked humans would gravitate towards a one world government with a single financial system, being ruled by the anti-Christ. We see in this coronavirus panic the consequences which may force America to abandon its independence and become just another of many participants in a one atheistic socialist system. Not only are world bankers planning for major changes, American democrats are also seeing the opportunity to force those changes on America.

Victor Davis Hanson claims coronavirus pandemic has led to resurgence of '''neo-socialist agenda''' | Fox News

"Let's use this situation, this crisis, this time, to actually learn the lessons, value from the reflection and let's reimagine what we want society to be," Cuomo said in a recent address, adding that tht state could "use this as a moment to really plan [and make] change that we could normally never do unless you had this situation."

 
Stone was convicted on all seven counts therefore STONE IS NOT INNOCENT. STONE IS GUILTY AND HE'S A CONVICTED FELON.

OK. Settle down. Stone was convicted, Trump was impeached, the democrats have had their fun, and now it is time to move on.
 
I'm so HAPPY that I am not a cynical American who genuinely believes that our legal system is corrupted in a way that you describe because then I would not be living in the USA. What you're describing is RUSSIA, not AMERICA. I feel so sorry for you that you believe the BS that you write and I'm happy that I do not share your cynicism. My America is worth fighting for you. Your America is Trump, corruption and no faith in the American way. Very sad.

I believe in fighting for Americans who support American laws, liberties, freedoms, traditions and the like and fighting against against domestic terrorists and seditionists who hate America and do very wicked things to America as if those wicked things are just, right, holy and needed.
 
I believe in fighting for Americans who support American laws, liberties, freedoms, traditions and the like and fighting against against domestic terrorists and seditionists who hate America and do very wicked things to America as if those wicked things are just, right, holy and needed.

So you are not voting for Trump.
 
A jury heard the evidence and convicted Stone.. Now the president commutes his sentence... Corruption to the core...

President Donald Trump has commuted the sentence of longtime adviser Roger Stone, who was found guilty of seeking to thwart congressional and FBI investigations into alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

A senior administration official confirmed to POLITICO that Trump commuted Stone's sentence.

Stone, 67, was sentenced in February to three years and four months in prison after a trial late last year where a jury found him guilty on all seven felony charges brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.


Trump commutes sentence of longtime adviser Roger Stone - POLITICO

How is this corruption? Trump didn’t pardon the man. The conviction stands. He simply spared the old man a prison term. An d man who poses no threat or danger to society. Trump didn’t hide this. He did it out in the open.

There’s no corruption here.
 
Trump's temper tantrum has just begun. He is going to commute far more than just Roger Stone.

Wouldn't surprise me if he commuted every prisoner in a blue state prison.

He is that small.

Do people ever wonder how their comments are viewed by rational people?
 
In fact Trump. unlike his leftist opponent, embodies all those ideals mentioned. What honest person would seriously vote for Joe Biden?

Yeah, because when I think of the lying cheating individual that trivializes individuals that actually suffered in the service of our country ….I think of Trump. :lamo

Thank you for the laugh. Has he finished filling the swamp so he could drain it again?
 
I think the chance of having a serious substantive discussion in this forum is slim.
 
Listen carefully. I don't know who Russia may or may not been been rooting far, and I don't think anyone else does either, because Russia is a big place and there are tens of millions of Russians who have different opinions and they do not speak for Russia anyway.

ABSOLUTELY NOT! You know what Russia is and you know exactly who Putin was rooting for. You absolutely know that Russian interference in the 2016 American election was about seeing Trump win. And you know absolutely that Putin, himself, later publicly declared that he wanted to see Trump win for Russian foreign policy purposes.

What you don't want to know is the why.

What I said was that I read a report that stated new unsealed records from congressional investigations showed that Brennan deliberately hid evidence that Russia wanted Hillary to win. I also invited you to post evidence that the report was false.

Which I easily did by simply producing what Putin himself declared. You cannot pretend to not know the truth.

Democrats claim Putin is a liar and a deceiver except when he spouts democrat party lines? I don't believe Putin and I don't believe democrats have proven their case.

Putin is a liar and runs his country like an underground mafia safe haven. And this lends credibility to the Trump/Russian oligarchy relationship, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Democratic or Republican Party.

I feel that you have somewhere figured out that Trump is not God's gift to you. But you still cling to a radical right-wing idea of the world.

If you are ignorant of the massive evidences of past voter fraud then I hardly see how your ignorance is worth considering.

?! You have no evidence of "massive voter fraud" in regards to the DNC. However...

2012: North Carolina's Republican-led congress immediately approved a redistricting plan that was widely understood as racially gerrymandering. It concentrated black voters into a small number of districts, thereby diluting their electoral weight and maximizing Republican seat gains.

2013: The U.S. Supreme Court once again declined to reinstate North Carolina's strict voter ID law, which was struck down in 2012 after a court ruled that it was intentionally designed to stop African-Americans from voting. North Carolina legislators had requested data on voting patterns by race and, with that data in hand, drafted a law that would "target African-Americans with almost surgical precision," the court said.

2016: When, despite these efforts to rig the election, a Democrat won the governorship, the controlling Republican Senate granted itself the authority to confirm gubernatorial cabinet appointments in order to pack the executive branch with Republicans, thus trying to render the new governor powerless. This passed law, was later overturned by the courts.

2016: They also passed to shrink the state court of appeals by three seats, thereby stealing three judicial appointments from the new governor.

2016: At the national level, the GOP-led House and Senate, for the first time in American history, went ahead and broke a constitutional norm and refused to consider a seated President’s nominee (for an entire year) to the Supreme Court.

North Carolina
Wisconsin
Georgia
North Dakota
Indiana
Texas

I mean...DAMN dude?!
 
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I believe in fighting for Americans who support American laws, liberties, freedoms, traditions and the like and fighting against against domestic terrorists and seditionists who hate America and do very wicked things to America as if those wicked things are just, right, holy and needed.

Which means, taking your words literally that you will not vote for Trump because he doesn't support US law, liberties (locking up children). Trump believes that the Confederate leaders were heroes! They were all TRAITORS so if you believe in traditions you're anti-Trump. Domestic terrorists? Like the White Supremacists who support Trump? Seditionists? I have no clue what you mean nor do I know of any such type in the Democratic party, none, zero, zilch.

BTW - Being an Atheist is not a negative as you imply. In a true free society people have the freedom to worship or not and either way does not make one person superior to the other. What makes someone inferior is believing that if someone disagrees with you about religion and you consider them lessor.
 
In fact Trump. unlike his leftist opponent, embodies all those ideals mentioned. What honest person would seriously vote for Joe Biden?

Honest people? Surely you must mean that no one should vote for a compulsive, pathological liar who has lied more than 19K times since Jan. 20, 2017? How can you overlook that Trump has a severe mental illness that prevents him from telling the truth. In the White House's press relief on Friday night about Roger Stone it contained 12 lies! 12 lies in one WH press relief. Do you know any other President who did that?

Fact-checking the White House's statement announcing Roger Stone's commutation - CNNPolitics

BTW - the term LEFTIST is not a negative though you seem to write it as a slam against Democrats. Dems are to the left and the GOP are to the right. Neither is a negative, they're just an adjective.
 
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