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Atheists take aim at Christmas

Secular Humanists and atheists waged war against Christmas two decades ago.
I wish the ACLU (Anti Christ Liberal Union) a Merry Christmas and a Happy.

Uh, the obscene amount of nonsense you subscribe to scares me. Indoctrination complete.
 
Uh, the obscene amount of nonsense you subscribe to scares me. Indoctrination complete.

Your "logic" and "reasoning" are simply flawed but I'm inclined to believe there's medication available for your mental disorder.
 
Your "logic" and "reasoning" are simply flawed but I'm inclined to believe there's medication available for your mental disorder.

Care to back up your statements with proof that my logic and reason are flawed? Or are you content with simply spewing oral diarrhea all over this thread?
 
People who say Happy Holidays aren't getting out of anything; they're still saying Holy-days. Hahahaha, fools.
 
People who say Happy Holidays aren't getting out of anything; they're still saying Holy-days. Hahahaha, fools.

Nope we say Holidays not Holydays. Some people need hooked on phonics.
 
Instead of Happy Holydays I say Happy Secular Celebratory Days! :2razz:



And when a woman is raped and beaten i say "i am sorry for your un-consentual intercourse and pugulistic losing endeavours"....






oh knoes he di int..














yeah he did......... :shock::mrgreen:
 
And when a woman is raped and beaten i say "i am sorry for your un-consentual intercourse and pugulistic losing endeavours"....






oh knoes he di int..














yeah he did......... :shock::mrgreen:
That......was.....AWESOME!
 
Nope, you are still saying Holy days whether you realize it or not. Some people need word history lessons.

Just becuase holiday originated from "holy day" does not mean that the term is used that way by all people. The modern usage of Holiday pertains to a gathering celebrated by many people on a specific day. Unless you consider April Fool's day a Holy Day?
 
Just becuase holiday originated from "holy day" does not mean that the term is used that way by all people. The modern usage of Holiday pertains to a gathering celebrated by many people on a specific day. Unless you consider April Fool's day a Holy Day?

I consider the word origins. And in terms of the word origin, Holiday derives from Holy Day. Don't blame me; I didn't make the origin up. It is what it is.
 
I consider the word origins. And in terms of the word origin, Holiday derives from Holy Day. Don't blame me; I didn't make the origin up. It is what it is.

Does that make Christmas a pagan holiday?
 
I consider the word origins. And in terms of the word origin, Holiday derives from Holy Day. Don't blame me; I didn't make the origin up. It is what it is.

Holiday does come from Holy Day, but when I say "holiday", I'm saying "holiday" not "holy day". The word has now transgressed it's origin.
 
Holiday does come from Holy Day, but when I say "holiday", I'm saying "holiday" not "holy day". The word has now transgressed it's origin.

The word's origin is what it is. I'm not sure what kind of "transgression" a word can make but I am sure God forgives those transgressions, too. LOL
 
I consider the word origins. And in terms of the word origin, Holiday derives from Holy Day. Don't blame me; I didn't make the origin up. It is what it is.
Being that Christmas is literally "Christ's mass", no.

Do either of the two vocabularies carry the same bearing, weight, or intention as they did in the past for a vast majority of the world's population to indicate a holy day or christ's birth? Or has it become an excuse to binge on food, alcohol, and materialistic goods exchanged to show up good faith towards friends, family, co-workers and neighbors complete with cultural traditions and celebrations that to some, extend to times prior to christianity?
 
Being that Christmas is literally "Christ's mass", no.

But the origins of the holiday are completely pagan. It was merely renamed by the Christians. Shouldn't the original be what we take as the true meaning?
 
But the origins of the holiday are completely pagan. It was merely renamed by the Christians. Shouldn't the original be what we take as the true meaning?

Some of the practices may be pagan in origin, but Christ's Mass is exactly what it is; Christ's Mass.

My birthday often is on mother's day. Does that mean that one is the other or vice versa? No.
 
The practice was merely usurped in an attempt to convert pagans over. The actual holiday is pagan in origin. If things can't evolve (like the meaning of holiday), that we must take the original as still valid. The origins of the holiday we call Christmas is pagan, the name was merely changed.
 
The practice was merely usurped in an attempt to convert pagans over. The actual holiday is pagan in origin. If things can't evolve (like the meaning of holiday), that we must take the original as still valid. The origins of the holiday we call Christmas is pagan, the name was merely changed.

No, not at all. Your analysis is severely flawed.

Christ's Mass is a separate celebration from Yule, entirely. The dates simply coincide as an attempt to keep pagans and Christians from killing each other on their holy days (holidays). And, yes, it was also an attempt at converting pagans but, in effect, the two holidays (holy days) are completely separate occurrences that now share a date or a season.

Christmas is Christ's Mass. Yule is the celebration of the winter solstice. A mixing of the traditions does nothing to diminish the origins of either.
 
The date of Christmas was deliberately chosen by the Church to coincide with Saturnalia in Rome, so that it could directly compete with the Pagan holidays that it was trying to oust. I don't think it had much to do with living in peace so much as it was about displacement.
 
The date of Christmas was deliberately chosen by the Church to coincide with Saturnalia in Rome, so that it could directly compete with the Pagan holidays that it was trying to oust. I don't think it had much to do with living in peace so much as it was about displacement.

Personally I'm over it.
 
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