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Experts warn Barack Obama of 'hornet's nest' in Middle East

Pamela Taylor (left) leading Muslims in prayer in Toronto

Laury Silvers giveing a sermon to a group of men and women in Cambridge for Eid.

Nakia Jackson leading a mixed-gender group in prayer for Eid

Raheel Raza gives a sermon and leads Friday prayers for a group that includes men and women in Toronto

And what do all of them have in common? :roll:
 
I'm always surprised people think that the Muslims rank and file populations in the ME are powerfully anti-Isaeli. If they were to any significant degree Israel would not be there.
 
I'm always surprised people think that the Muslims rank and file populations in the ME are powerfully anti-Isaeli. If they were to any significant degree Israel would not be there.

Its an over exagerration on the media's part.

Besides, prior to Israel being there. Jews and Muslims lived alongside one another peacefully in Muslim countries.
Indeed, whilst Christians and Europeans were killing and opressing the Jews. It was they who fled and found protection within Muslim communities - This stems back hundreds of years to even Prophet Mohammed's era.

To say Muslims hate Jews because of the Qu'ran is ridiclous, if that was the case. Why did Muslims not attempt to eradicate all the Jews living in their countries for hundreds of years? Not like Muslims haven't had the opportunity nor the lack of power seeing Jews were a minority. They were rejected in Europe so they came to ME, Muslims could have killed them but didn't. They followed the same Qu'ran that can be seen now so clearly the Qu'ran didn't inspire any beheadings :/
 
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Its an over exagerration on the media's part.

Besides, prior to Israel being there. Jews and Muslims lived alongside one another peacefully in Muslim countries.

Only if the Jews submitted to the status of half slave dhimma, but when they didn't Mohammed and his followers would slaughter their men to the last for example by either beheading them or torturing them to death by lighting fires on their stomachs, and then they would take their wives and children as concubines and slaves as is the fate the befell all of the Jewish Banu tribes of the Arabian penninsula under Islamic rule.
 
I'm always surprised people think that the Muslims rank and file populations in the ME are powerfully anti-Isaeli. If they were to any significant degree Israel would not be there.

lol the Arabs have been trying to destroy Israel for more than 50 years, it is not because of any wish not to destroy Israel on the part of the Arabs, it is because of their inability to achieve the goal which they seek.
 
Nah, go face them and get their respect.
Do not leave Islam, Go US, Insult Islam and my Prophets and expect Muslims to give a **** about what you say.
Its insulting to say the least.

Insulting Islam and your prophet by writing say a literary masterpiece?

I haven't heard of any Gays being hanged recentley in Turkey or Jordan for example.

No in Jordan they just have article 340 which protects those who honor kill homosexuals which is a regular occurrence there, but ya Turkey in their bid to join the EU has been forced to modernize their stance on homosexuality.


I condemn them when they kill civilians, I do not when they fund hospitals and schools and give aid to families.

So you end your condemnation of Kahane when they fund hospitals and schools and give aid to families? Ya that's kind of like saying "but the Nazi party did some good stuff too". :roll:


Please, As if other Athiests haven't been threatened when insulting Islam.
Face it, she is nothing special. She is a disgrace, she didn't really think Muslims would be "cool" with her calling Islam evil right?
Pity her education didn't teach her to be more subtle :roll:
The only reason she hates Islam is because of what happened to her as a child - No need to blame Islam because you ran away from a forced marriage.

How is she meant to help Africans or Somalis with Circumcision? She ensured that her words would make her hated. How clever ! :doh

REAL Moderate Muslim females who should be admired by all Muslims.
Female Imams

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Raheel Raza leads Canada's first mixed-gender Friday prayers outdoors in Toronto

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Nakia Jackson leads prayers in Cambridge in celebration of Eid al-Fitr

Once again it is you not I who brought up Hirsi Ali, but regardless nothing she has done can justify her being under the threat of death, and the fact that you condemn her so vicously when not a harsh word for her would be killers is mentioned by you is very telling in deed. Oh and fyi Asra Nomani whom I mentioned as a moderate Muslim was one of the leading forces to stage the event in which a female Iman would lead prayer for the first time in history, Asra Nomani (who I mentioned and who you said you didn't care what she thought) was the head of the Woman Muslims Freedom Tour.
 
lol the Arabs have been trying to destroy Israel for more than 50 years, it is not because of any wish not to destroy Israel on the part of the Arabs, it is because of their inability to achieve the goal which they seek.
That is what the Sassanids and Romans thoguht...

The leaders have been trying to destroy, the people don't particularly care. If they did it would not be there.
 
Absolutely right. Sadly, at this point I think we may be too late for diplomacy to work. I'm not saying that we should go to war with Iran, but I don't hold out too much hope for Iran abandoning its nuclear program at this point.

In all likelihood, I think we're just going to have to learn to live with Iranian nukes.

No.... we're going to give Iran permission to ****-slap Iran. Iran's nuclear sites WILL be decimated. If and when Iran retaliates, Iran will be decimated.
 
No.... we're going to give Iran permission to ****-slap Iran. Iran's nuclear sites WILL be decimated. If and when Iran retaliates, Iran will be decimated.

Expecting some kind of deus ex machina from Israel is simply not realistic. Israel simply does not have the capability of destroying all of Iranian's nuclear sites. For that matter, neither does the United States aside from a full-scale invasion and occupation.
 
The Arabs are semites so that is a useless source.

But they are not Jews, so wtf are you talking about? Oh that's right you just posed a non-sequitor to my argument in an attempt to redefine anti-semitism, too bad for you I said "Jews" not semites and the people in that video expressed hatred for Jews not anti-semitism.

They don't care much, otherwise do you really think Israel would fare better than the Sassanians and the Romans TOT.

Yes for one simple reason, the Arabs are still stuck in the 5th century.
 
I suggest you get rid of the notion that the US can or won't accomplish a goal it sets out to accomplish. Besides, who says we really need to fight the war on the ground? Round the clock air raids for a couple of weeks would go a long way toward breaking the will of the Iranian government.

I'm over the nonsense. If Iran won't play nice with the rest of the world, there is no reason to play nice with Iran. It would seem to me that if there are these mythical moderate Muslims who decry the violence, then they would be standing up for the cause of removing the craziest extremist country threatening the world right now and making Muslims look bad.

Are all the people in Compton who desire to clean it up mythical too?
 
But they are not Jews, so wtf are you talking about? Oh that's right you just posed a non-sequitor to my argument in an attempt to redefine anti-semitism, too bad for you I said "Jews" not semites and the people in that video expressed hatred for Jews not anti-semitism.
The Arabs are still semites so they can't be anti-semites, that was my point.


Yes for one simple reason, the Arabs are still stuck in the 5th century.
And your are obsessed with the arabs....
 
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