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Intelligence on Russian bounty plot was included in the President's Daily Brief earlier this year...

bongsaway said:
Tell us mycroft, what one negative thing has trump said about putin? You sir in my opinion are a traitor to america with the way you think and defend any and everything trump or his administration does. Everyone on here knows you are a huge trump arse kisser.
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Talk is cheap. The Dems have shown us that. I prefer to watch action.

Trump's actions toward Russia are far from cozying up to them.
 
Mycroft said:
Talk is cheap. The Dems have shown us that. I prefer to watch action.

Trump's actions toward Russia are far from cozying up to them.
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Your talk is cheap. Do you have that one instance where trump said something negative about putin or not?
 
bongsaway said:
Your talk is cheap. Do you have that one instance where trump said something negative about putin or not?
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I've already listed instances where Trump has taken action that have clear negative impact on Putin.

As I've said...not interested in talk.
 
PNW Guy said:
Just because Mueller didn't have a prosecuteable case, doesn't mean Trump isn't a bought Russian asset. Clearly he is. I can't imagine it happening, but him being impeached, removed, tried and executed by firing squad would be too good for him, IMO. He needs gone, this is outrageous!:stop:
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Just 'cause you want Trump to be a Russian asset doesn't mean Trump is a Russian asset.:roll:
 
Mycroft said:
We'll probably never know about it for sure, but some "US official with direct knowledge of the latest information" will probably find his life has gotten very uncomfortable...and rightfully so.

The American people should not tolerate traitors who leak classified intel for political purposes.
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Obviously, some tolerate the leaking of classified material if it hurts Trump.:roll:
 
Tralfamadore said:
So, Trump and company cozy up to Putin and Russia, and news breaks out saying that Russia had bounties on US soldiers and that the Trump administration was briefed on it, but yet continued his admiration of Putin, and that makes the person who leaked the news a "traitor"?

Whose side are you on?
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What proof do you have that Trump cozies up to Putin and Russia?
 
cabse5 said:
Obviously, some tolerate the leaking of classified material if it hurts Trump.:roll:
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Thankfully, we have people in the DOJ now who don't tolerate the leaking of classified material...for any reason.
 
Thoreau72 said:
16 Dems voted with the Repubs to table the bill advanced by Rand Paul and others, and Paul's bill would have also ended the pernicious farce of the AUMF.

The status quo of perpetual war remains.
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On a side note, have you noticed that, while being accused of authoritarianism (fascism is authoritarianism) Trump has displayed some libertarian qualities? I think those 'Trumpian libertarian qualities' discount Trump as a fascist. Rather, I think the ones calling Trump fascist are more likely fascists.
 
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Mycroft said:
Trump has never cozied up to Putin and Russia.

Seriously...haven't you started thinking for yourself yet? Or are you still a slave to the anti Trump media?

In any case, yes...I consider ANYONE who deliberately leaks classified intel without authorization to be a traitor. Furthermore, I consider any Americans who aid and abet that traitor to be accessories to the crime of treason. (that would be virtually ALL of the mainstream media and their entire echo chamber)
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To be guilty of Treason, one has to aid and abet the enemy at the time of war. People throw the word around incorrectly. At any rate, anyone who brings to the attention of the American people the serious wrongdoings of Trump, should get a medal, and in some cases probably will next year.
 
Mycroft said:
Thankfully, we have people in the DOJ now who don't tolerate the leaking of classified material...for any reason.
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Drain that swamp!
 
cabse5 said:
On a side note, have you noticed that, while being accused of authoritarianism (fascism is authoritarianism) Trump has displayed some libertarian qualities? I think those 'Trumpian libertarian qualities' discount Trump as a fascist. Rather, I think the ones calling Trump fascist are more likely fascists.
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Fair enough.

Trump is such a loose cannon, and apparently of lower language skills and IQ, that it's hard to categorize him as libertarian, but I do understand your point.

Because he is such a greedy and unprincipled man, and because he seems to very much like the Swamp, practicing nepotism all over the place, crony capitalism maybe, I think he's very much a fascist.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Fair enough.

Trump is such a loose cannon, and apparently of lower language skills and IQ, that it's hard to categorize him as libertarian, but I do understand your point.

Because he is such a greedy and unprincipled man, and because he seems to very much like the Swamp, practicing nepotism all over the place, crony capitalism maybe, I think he's very much a fascist.
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A fascist would want perpetual wars. A fascist would see the goodness or badness of the speech and actions of, for example, ANTIFA VS neo-Nazis.
 
cabse5 said:
A fascist would want perpetual wars. A fascist would see the goodness or badness of the speech and actions of, for example, ANTIFA VS neo-Nazis.
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A belligerent fascist might like perpetual wars, a non-belligerent fascist might simply want more $ and higher profits and more authority.
 
Thoreau72 said:
A belligerent fascist might like perpetual wars, a non-belligerent fascist might simply want more $ and higher profits and more authority.
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I agree. Whether differing degrees of fascism, still fascism.
 
Mycroft said:
We'll probably never know about it for sure, but some "US official with direct knowledge of the latest information" will probably find his life has gotten very uncomfortable...and rightfully so.

The American people should not tolerate traitors who leak classified intel for political purposes.
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the American people should not tolerate traitors who stand around and ignore that Russia has placed a bounty on our soldiers lives and allowed it to happen...that is the definition of traitor...not what you are trying to paint...someone who leaked that info is a hero.
 
Tralfamadore said:
So, Trump and company cozy up to Putin and Russia, and news breaks out saying that Russia had bounties on US soldiers and that the Trump administration was briefed on it, but yet continued his admiration of Putin, and that makes the person who leaked the news a "traitor"?

Whose side are you on?
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He is on Russia's side.
 
PNW Guy said:
Treason can only be used in wartime. A case for Sedition though is damn near open and shut already....

The amount of right wing propaganda guys like Mycroft have to consume to keep believing in this con man is staggering.....
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technically we are still at war in Afghanistan.
 
Mycroft said:
We are not at war (any new ones, at least)...thanks to Trump.

But the Dems...and a slew of GOP...would certainly welcome a war, with all the inevitable deaths in our military, if it meant Trump is prevented from winning a second term.
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No, we don't welcome war, but we want to finish what was started. War was started in Afghanistan by GWB and that Congress...when Trump was briefed on this...we had active troops in Afghanistan.
 
The AntiDonald said:
To be guilty of Treason, one has to aid and abet the enemy at the time of war. People throw the word around incorrectly. At any rate, anyone who brings to the attention of the American people the serious wrongdoings of Trump, should get a medal, and in some cases probably will next year.
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I am aware of the definition. I think it should be changed... especially when, as in this case, it might start a war.

Your political desires should not be justification to excuse a crime. You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking it does.
 
ClaraD said:
the American people should not tolerate traitors who stand around and ignore that Russia has placed a bounty on our soldiers lives and allowed it to happen...that is the definition of traitor...not what you are trying to paint...someone who leaked that info is a hero.
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Are you sure you want to go there?

Obama knew this was happening since 2014. Is he a traitor, too?
 
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