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    Re: Police for me, not for thee

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    Maybe you should have listened to, and not just watched, Eisenhower's speech. He made it exceeding clear that the sole purpose of his executive order sending troops to Little Rock was uphold and enforce a federal court order. And not to assist in the implementation of desegregation.
    You're now pretending to have watched that speech or you would never have said that.
    He never even mentions civil rights at all except vaguely in the context of the UN charter for "human rights". Matter of fact even he makes something of a disclaimer in that speech. "Our personal opinions about the decision have no bearing on the matter of enforcement; the responsibility and authority of the Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution are very clear." Heck, he couldn't even bring himself say that it was Black Americans or even negroes that were primarily being affected by the events in Arkansas. Instead he appears to be much more concerned about how America's enemies may be using the events in Arkansas to tarnish America's world image.
    In fact he even mentions Women's Right's as well as Black Americans and is touching many bases in order to bolster his position. Your stubbornness to protect your beliefs is not doing much good
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    Re: Police for me, not for thee

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred C Dobbs II View Post
    You're now pretending to have watched that speech or you would never have said that.In fact he even mentions Women's Right's as well as Black Americans and is touching many bases in order to bolster his position. Your stubbornness to protect your beliefs is not doing much good
    WTF does women's rights even remotely have to do with Eisenhower's Little Rock speech? Fact is Eisenhower never once utters the words "civil rights" in the course of that entire speech. Your willful ignorance is blinding you to an uncomfortable truth.

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    Re: Police for me, not for thee

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred C Dobbs II View Post
    You're now pretending to have watched that speech or you would never have said that.
    I've listened to it and read the transcript and I strongly suggest that you do the same. Because it's apparently obvious that you really haven't.

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    Re: Police for me, not for thee

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    Southern White Segregationist Democrats did all they could to block the bill. But in the end Johnson prevailed. Johnson did what Kennedy could not have done if he had still been alive. Even Georgia Senator Richard Russell, a leading proponent of the filibuster, acknowledged that. When you only know half the story your commentaries are doomed to coming off as being half-assed. You're right Johnson was a racist. He was a product of the environment in which he was raised. But he managed to rise above it to do what he knew to be right.
    You want to know a dark little secret about Democrats? They didn't care about freeing slaves and civil rights, they cared about votes. They'd filibuster that same bill today, with Schumer leading the way, if they thought it would help them gain power. They'd mount machine guns at the boarder if they thought illegals would vote Republican. It's not about right or wrong with them, it's getting power and keeping it.
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    Re: Police for me, not for thee

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    WTF does women's rights even remotely have to do with Eisenhower's Little Rock speech? Fact is Eisenhower never once utters the words "civil rights" in the course of that entire speech. Your willful ignorance is blinding you to an uncomfortable truth.
    It was part of the speech you never watched in which he wanted freedom for all Americans, including women. It was a sign that he was well ahead of his time and well ahead of the Feminist movement.

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