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Fox News Poll: Biden leads in Florida as Trump lags among seniors

ReubenSherr said:
At the moment, it's looking pretty ugly for the pollsters

Again, 44% of those polled were Democrats, whereas the Florida electorate was 37% Democratic in 2018

Polls with Democratic oversamples, even if they are weighted, are the harshest on Trump - it could be unintentional, it could be intentional, but this is now the 5th example of a "bad news for Trump" poll having Democratic oversamples in the past few weeks
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The polls consistently show Trump losing by margins that are well outside the margin of error. You think you are quibbling over a poll, but what you really are attempting is to deny the reality (and not very well, I might add).

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The reason that the US has an out of control pandemic is because Trump and his followers have denied the science and denied the scientists to the peril (mortal peril) of 10's of thousands that have died because of the ignorance of others. When will the ignorance stop and this idiots wake up? When will people do the right thing? This denial of reality is destroying America before our very eyes. Fools!
 
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upsideguy said:
The polls consistently show Trump losing by margins that are well outside the margin of error. You are no quibbling over a poll, you are attempting to deny the reality (and not very well, I might add)
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???

I never posted that Trump would win the election

You do not read well. ;)
 
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DiAnna said:
Good catch, lol! Well done. :)
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That post cracked me up :mrgreen: - but, just for the record, I was referring to the fact that Democrats think of him as a king to be dethroned (for what it's worth lol)

This was my full post, before he chopped it up...

"The circumstances surrounding the election, and the desperation of the Democratic Party to dethrone Trump at all costs"

You just did the same thing to me that the media constantly does to Trump ;) React to a cut quotation, and then revel in the fact that the cut quotation fits your narrative
 
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PoliSciXtina said:
I live in a very red county in S.C. So far in my neighborhood, four ‘Biden for SC’ signs have gone up. No trump signs yet (I’m sure they are coming, though). I never saw one Hillary sign back in 2016. I know a few hardcore republicans who are fed up with trump and a few more who admitted to me that he botched this entire covid response. Now, will they vote Biden? I hope. People are souring on him for sure.


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I was listening to NPR a while back, before the coronavirus and they were interviewing republicans/conservatives who voted for Trump. A couple were saying that they couldn't vote for someone like Warren or Sanders, but if Biden became the nominee they would definitely vote for him. They didn't like how Trump was acting and the things he was doing, a lot of them thought he'd grow up and listen to advisors, read briefings, etc. They weren't happy to see his was such a spoiled child and listened to nobody, and was too ignorant to even read or understand briefings. I live in a purple state and no signs up so far in my neighborhood, except for one new neighbor who bought a house down the block, he had 4 Bernie signs up when he first moved in, now he only has one big one on his front door.
 
ReubenSherr said:
???

I never posted that Trump would win the election

You do not read well. ;)
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I wasn't commenting on the election. You do not read very well.

I was merely pointing out that the poll you were quibbling with is consistent with other polls.... they all show him losing big. Losing is a state of being, not necessarily the ultimate outcome.

But, since you asked, in this case it will be the ultimate outcome. His slim chances of being re-elected are approaching nil.
 
upsideguy said:
I was merely pointing out that the poll you were quibbling with is consistent with other polls.... they all show him losing big.
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Upside, read threads before you post - this has been addressed for pages
 
upsideguy said:
I was merely pointing out that the poll you were quibbling with is consistent with other polls.... they all show him losing big.
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The Fox poll in the OP showed Biden up by 9 (with a large, weighted oversample of Democrats)

A NYT poll has Biden up by 6, again, an organization which used Democratic oversamples and weighting in its last general election poll

A Redfield + Wilton poll has Biden up by only 4

These are the only three polls which came out yesterday on 538 - The Fox poll is not "consistent will other polls"
 
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Except at 49% Joe isn't a shoe in especially when his +17 and +30 are two demographics that notoriously overpoll/undervote.
 
Chomsky said:
Straight-up, with the poll under-reporting I believe may be occurring, Trump will likely take 3 of the 4, with the lone Biden win being Florida. Of course, that alone should do it.
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Nate Silver made a hypothetical 270-to-win map last week after polls showed Biden leading in Florida, the point being that Biden could lose an ungodly number of states and still win solely by virtue of winning Florida.
 
Casca XV said:
WOW FOX has Creepy Joe doing almost as good as they had Hillary doing 4 years ago. I'm sure once they debate and Creepy Joe starts bragging about black kids touching his harry legs he will do even better.

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Don’t forget that between now and the debates, Trump will be rage tweeting and opening his fat idiot mouth to constantly remind Americans why he is not fit for office.
 
calamity said:
Even Texas

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Has woke
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A blue Texas? [emoji14]


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ReubenSherr said:
Wait - just for the record, I'm not predicting Trump will win the election ;)

But I'm extremely sick of looking at headlines stating Biden is 14 points ahead, then examining the poll sample, and finding out they surveyed 100 more Democrats than Republicans and weighted the results

And, honestly, I'm concerned that people might be doing this on purpose to give Biden an edge in the debates
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Are there no conservative pollsters? Where are these polls?


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Chomsky said:
Agreed. But seniors on the other hand surprised me, here.
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Seniors can't be lied to so easily by trump and Desantis trying to hide numbers when they watch their neighbors die.
 
Casca XV said:
The Black Community was better and stronger in 1960 than today, and since they have voted 90% Democrat. Their most prosperous time was the first 3 years of Trump up until the corona hysteria. He has polled as high as 30% among Blacks.

No one with a working brain actually thinks Creepy Joe is winning or going to win. Not even you guys masturbating over this fake news.
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Sure. Keep thinking that.:mrgreen:
 
ReubenSherr said:
The circumstances surrounding the election, and the desperation of the Democratic Party to dethrone Trump at all costs
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" DETHRONE " Trump
sounds like somebody thinks he is a KING
well not yet but I wouldn't put it past him to try something underhanded to try and make himself KING
He is not a KING and if he tries any stunt to try and make himself KING there will be an uprising
Have a nice day
 
ReubenSherr said:
Because pollsters are sampling a small group of Republicans, and then multiplying the results by a scale factor

The more important question is...Why are all of these pollsters coincidentally reaching a far greater percentage of Democrats than Republicans, compared to the makeup of the electorate?
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A better way to phase that question may be: why, when everyone who polls the American populace is coming to the same rough conclusion, are you insisting that It Can't Be So?

If your argument was correct, Romney would be President.
 
Just goes to show how much Trump suuuuuuuuucks

Every other Republican would be beating Biden right now.

Every.

Single.

One.
 
Chomsky said:
The imagery is like out of a movie script, but I'm sure it's real.
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It indeed is real. The guy belongs to the klan. When I am talking methville I am talking Red Bank, Gaston and Pelion in Lexington County area. The flag is in Gaston and this particular person has had a few confrontations with my brother. (he is my step brother and is very white) One of those confrontations was over me...that time my brother grabbed his shotgun and run him off his property...the guy was complaining about why my brother had damn Mxcns on his property...and I am his sister.
 
bearpoker said:
That there is what I call wildly optimistic. But it would be so cool!:mrgreen:
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we aren't winning Mississippi or Indiana....the only way we would take red West VA is if those coal miners are pissed about no coal jobs coming back. I don't see Biden winning South Carolina either...although if the black and hispanic populations actually vote...Donny is in trouble even in South Carolina.
 
Chomsky said:
Source: (Fox News) Fox News Poll: Biden leads in Florida as Trump lags among seniors

I quoted the majority of important data, and there's further break-out within the article.

I'm not sure what to say here. Accept for my last entry, the numbers seem atrocious for Trump - if they're accurate. Biden has multiple paths to win, including with losing Florida. Trump on the other hand, absolutely needs Florida to win. And with far better numbers in 2016, he carried Florida by only a single point.

My suspicion is the political pendulum will swing back somewhat from this current hard-core swing to Biden. But at the moment, it's looking pretty ugly for Trump.
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Well then, no need to have an election, just the inauguration of Biden and return to those wonderful Obamanomic years of massive entitlement, massive gov't spending, and continued building of the nanny state. Can hardly wait!!

Let's remember exactly what liberalism gives us

Trump says violence in Chicago, Baltimore, other US cities like '''living in hell,''' in '''Hannity''' town hall | Fox News
 
ClaraD said:
we aren't winning Mississippi or Indiana....the only way we would take red West VA is if those coal miners are pissed about no coal jobs coming back. I don't see Biden winning South Carolina either...although if the black and hispanic populations actually vote...Donny is in trouble even in South Carolina.
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The country is in trouble with Biden but you cannot change the mind of people like you so full of hatred that you cannot understand that results matter, what happens if you are wrong in Biden who even if elected will not serve out his entire term due to health reasons giving us another liberal socialist VP as President.

The lack of passion for Biden is all over the place and the silent majority still get it as you will see in November.
 
Conservative said:
The country is in trouble with Biden but you cannot change the mind of people like you so full of hatred that you cannot understand that results matter, what happens if you are wrong in Biden who even if elected will not serve out his entire term due to health reasons giving us another liberal socialist VP as President.

The lack of passion for Biden is all over the place and the silent majority still get it as you will see in November.
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No, the country has been turned into a ****hole by Trump...Biden has a hard job cut out for him if he wins.
 
ClaraD said:
No, the country has been turned into a ****hole by Trump...Biden has a hard job cut out for him if he wins.
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I don't see conservatives tearing up cities with riots, looting, and the tearing down of Monuments. That is owned by your party and the radical left. I am waiting and waiting and waiting for the data to support your claims that the Trump Presidency has created a ****hole? Look in the mirror, you are part of the problem
 
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