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Appeals court orders Flynn case dismissal, after years-long legal saga

TheDoctorWasIn said:
Somehow I expect that just like every other time, when Lucy pulls the football away you'll blame it on the deep state, or some other nonsense.

But I guess we'll see.
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So you are not a man of your convictions.
 
SLC said:
S you are not a man of your convictions.
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No, I'm a man - not an elementary school student. I have no interest in your stupid games.

Let's see if you'll go on record stating who exactly you believe will end up going to jail for prosecuting Flynn.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
No, I'm a man - not an elementary school student. I have no interest in your stupid games.

Let's see if you'll go on record stating who exactly you believe will end up going to jail for prosecuting Flynn.
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I think Comey and Strozh and Page all have potential liability. Comey and Strozh moshed their government position and massaged evidence as did Page. It’s interesting the original 32 has never surfaced
 
SLC said:
I think Comey and Strozh and Page all have potential liability. Comey and Strozh moshed their government position and massaged evidence as did Page. It’s interesting the original 32 has never surfaced
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There is no "original" 302. That's just more lies you've swallowed.

If you think Comey, Strzok and Page have any possible criminal liability, what law do you believe they violated?
 
sanman said:
It's totally over. The Appeals court has the final say. That's how the court system works.
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You don’t know anything about how this works.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
Probably to keep this case in the courts until after the election, and possibly until the next President has cleaned out the stain from the DoJ.
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If Trump were to lose expect him to pardon Flynn and Stone in December
 
SLC said:
If Trump were to lose expect him to pardon Flynn and Stone in December
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Maybe. I doubt it, though.

I dont think Trump feels any loyalty to anyone. As soon as his defense of Stone and Flynn is no longer beneficial to him, I expect he'll quickly forget about them.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
There is no "original" 302. That's just more lies you've swallowed.

If you think Comey, Strzok and Page have any possible criminal liability, what law do you believe they violated?
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I just told you they abused there government position and fabricated evidence. No original 302? Now that is a laugher. The FBI even admits there have been more than one version. Sa Page texted when had left an “edited” 302 on McCabe’s desk
 
SLC said:
I just told you they abused there government position and fabricated evidence.
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Yes. I know, you have a lot of feelings. You think they did mean things to Trump, and you want them punished for it.

But that not how crimes work. In order to be criminally liable, you must actually commit a crime.

All of the laws of the United States are published in the U.S. Code. Which section of Chapter 18 (criminal codes) of the U.S. Code has Comey, Strzok or Page violated?

No original 302? Now that is a laugher. The FBI even admits there have been more than one version. Sa Page texted when had left an “edited” 302 on McCabe’s desk
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There may have been drafts, but it doesn't become a 302 until it's signed by both agents and submitted to the system.

Only one 302 was ever submitted to the system.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
Maybe. I doubt it, though.

I dont think Trump feels any loyalty to anyone. As soon as his defense of Stone and Flynn is no longer beneficial to him, I expect he'll quickly forget about them.
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I bet you thought Hillary would win too. :lol: I expect Flynn won't need to be pardoned but Stone will be pardoned after the election.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
Yes. I know, you have a lot of feelings. You think they did mean things to Trump, and you want them punished for it.

But that not how crimes work. In order to be criminally liable, you must actually commit a crime.

All of the laws of the United States are published in the U.S. Code. Which section of Chapter 18 (criminal codes) of the U.S. Code has Comey, Strzok or Page violated?



There may have been drafts, but it doesn't become a 302 until it's signed by both agents and submitted to the system.

Only one 302 was ever submitted to the system.
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Sydney Powell has requested the ORIGINAL 302 that the other DRAFTS were prepared from and the FBI has not produced it yet. The original was edited so lets see what was edited out or added to the original. That is called evidence. The defense has a legal right to see it and it has not been produced.
 
SLC said:
Sydney Powell has requested the ORIGINAL 302 that the other DRAFTS were prepared from and the FBI has not produced it yet. The original was edited so lets see what was edited out or added to the original. That is called evidence. The defense has a legal right to see it and it has not been produced.
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You've been lied to.

There is no "original" 302. The 302 on file with the FBI, and submitted to the court is the only existing 302.

It is possible that there were multiple drafts of the 302 before it was submitted. Those other drafts are meaningless.

302s are not evidence.
 
SLC said:
I just told you they abused there government position and fabricated evidence. No original 302? Now that is a laugher. The FBI even admits there have been more than one version. Sa Page texted when had left an “edited” 302 on McCabe’s desk
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They have no idea what's going on because they only watch CNN and MSNBC. Maria B may be the best in the business - and you may have already seem this interview with Nunes - but here's the transcript anyway. Devin Nunes: "We Can't Find" FBI's Original Michael Flynn Interview 302 Report; "It's Gone, Poof" | Video | RealClearPolitics
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
You've been lied to.

There is no "original" 302. The 302 on file with the FBI, and submitted to the court is the only existing 302.

It is possible that there were multiple drafts of the 302 before it was submitted. Those other drafts are meaningless.

302s are not evidence.
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OK then lets see the ORIGINAL draft that all the other drafts started from. That is evidence and the defense has a right to see it. Judge Sullivan told the prosecution to produce it. The FBI has not produced it. Its not up to you to decide what is meaningless or what is evidence or what is not. There is a reason for the different versions. Lets see why there are different versions.
 
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SLC said:
OK then lets see the ORIGINAL draft that all the other drafts started from. That is evidence and the defense has a right to see it. Judge Sullivan told the prosecution to produce it. The FBI has not produced it. Its not up to you to decide what is meaningless and what is not. There is a reason for the different versions. Lets see why there are different versions.
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The FBI says no such "original" draft exists.

And no - if such a draft ever existed, it would not be "evidence". 302s in general are not evidence - they are hearsay - and any drafts made prior to filing the 302 are deliberative work product and not discoverable.
 
Just a quick update... The motion to dismiss has still not been ruled on....

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TheDoctorWasIn said:
The FBI says no such "original" draft exists.

And no - if such a draft ever existed, it would not be "evidence". 302s in general are not evidence - they are hearsay - and any drafts made prior to filing the 302 are deliberative work product and not discoverable.
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EVIDENCE is anything that supports the defense or prosecutions argument. The most proximal recording of the events of the Flynn interview is absolutely potential evidence. Your denial of that shows your abject ignorance. The defense has a right to see the information that all the other drafts came from and to see what was changed and why so many other drafts were necessary. The FBI has destroyed or is hiding the original because it does not agree with the subsequent versions or could be embarrassing to the FBI. The other deliberative 302 drafts were discovered why not the first one?
 
hanger4 said:
You example was about someone lying about a crime they committed, so I asked, what crime did Flynn commit that he lied about ??
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The question that was asked (NOT "example") was

"If someone robs a bank and is then coerced into pleading guilty to an indictment alleging that they robbed the bank, does that mean that the bank was never robbed in the first place?"
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your first "answer" doesn't even come close to dealing with it, nor does your second.

Why?
 
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