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Trump threatens to deploy military as George Floyd protests continue to shake the U.S.

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Trump threatens to deploy military as George Floyd protests continue to shake the U.S.

“I am mobilizing all federal and local resources, civilian and military, to protect the rights of law abiding Americans,” Trump said during a hastily arranged address at the White House.

“Today I have strongly recommended to every governor to deploy the National Guard in sufficient numbers that we dominate the streets. Mayors and governors must establish an overwhelming presence until the violence is quelled,” Trump said.

“If a city or state refuses to take the actions necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them.”

Trump’s address followed a weekend where he threatened protesters outside the gates of the White House with the promise of “vicious dogs” and “ominous weapons.”
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This will not end well
President Law & Order has spoken

Prior to the announcement- Secret Service-Police moved protesters who were not violent using tear gas, flash bangs and such, just for Trump photo op at St Johns Church

Insurrection Act - Wikipedia

The general purpose of the Insurrection Act is to limit presidential power, relying on state and local governments for initial response in the event of insurrection. The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the United States Army and Air Force (which has also been extended by executive direction to the Navy) for routine law enforcement. Actions taken under the Insurrection Act, as an "Act of Congress", are exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act.[1][2]

The Insurrection Act is brief. It allows the President, at the request of a state government, to federalize the National Guard and to use the remainder of the Armed Forces to suppress an insurrection against that state's government. It further allows for the President to do the same in a state without the explicit consent of a state's government if it becomes impracticable to enforce federal laws through ordinary proceedings or if states are unable to safeguard its inhabitants' civil rights.
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Trump's Ceaucescau moment....
 
HumblePi said:
It's illegal to use the US military for domestic control. It's the law. Only the National Guard and Navy Coast Guard can be used domestically for civil crowd control.
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First time I have seen a wiki link being updated in funny ways
 
Its not illegal. The insurrection act was used in LA in 1992.

HumblePi said:
It's illegal to use the US military for domestic control. It's the law. Only the National Guard and Navy Coast Guard can be used domestically for civil crowd control.
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HumblePi said:
It's illegal to use the US military for domestic control. It's the law. Only the National Guard and Navy Coast Guard can be used domestically for civil crowd control.
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It has been done before during the civil rights movement
 
If he declared this unilaterally, then I suppose it's now up to the governors to rebuke him. But damn. He's invading the states with the U.S. military. What the hell?
 
vegas giants said:
It has been done before during the civil rights movement
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I may be wrong, but I don't think the U.S. military was called up to contain riots during the Civil Rights movement. I believe it was the National Guard, not the US Army. If you have an article regarding this, I would like to see it. The use of the armed forces to act as a police power on American soil is illegal. It was outlawed by a law enacted in 1878.
 
HumblePi said:
It's illegal to use the US military for domestic control. It's the law. Only the National Guard and Navy Coast Guard can be used domestically for civil crowd control.
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Since when has something being illegal ever stopped Trump?
 
HumblePi said:
I may be wrong, but I don't think the U.S. military was called up to contain riots during the Civil Rights movement. I believe it was the National Guard, not the US Army. If you have an article regarding this, I would like to see it. The use of the armed forces to act as a police power on American soil is illegal. It was outlawed by a law enacted in 1878.
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On Sept. 23, 1957, President Dwight Eisenhower signed an executive order sending troops from the Army's 101st Airborne Division to maintain order and peace during the integration of Central High School by nine black students in Little Rock, Ark. Arkansas Gov. Orval Faubus earlier called in the state National Guard to bar black students from the school


12 times the president called in the military domestically - Chicago Tribune
 
It was a crap speech today: all he had to do was get up and call for calm. The local authorities can handle the 'law and order aspect'. He could have started with, 'Let's all come together and stop this madness. Offenders will be prosecuted, thanks.'

Instead he went hard for the right - a list of crimes and grievances, nationalist rhetoric, law and order and military mobilization. He even threw in the 2A for no apprent reason. All we heard was threats and boorish demands.
 
HumblePi said:
It's illegal to use the US military for domestic control. It's the law. Only the National Guard and Navy Coast Guard can be used domestically for civil crowd control.
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A friend in the army (not national guard), he in another brigade, was deployed to South Florida after hurricane Andrew. His platoon was issued rifles but not ammo and positioned at an intersection.
 
"The FBI has already started questioning rioters who were arrested in several cities to determine whether they committed any federal crimes, the senior Justice Department official said. It is a federal crime to cross state lines to participate in violent riot."

Law enforcement must '''dominate''' streets amid George Floyd protests, Trump says - ABC13 Houston

If the above is found to be happening, the federal government is well within their rights to intercede.

Cotton Calls for Trump to Use Insurrection Act, Deploy Active-Duty Military to Quell Riots
 
HumblePi said:
I may be wrong, but I don't think the U.S. military was called up to contain riots during the Civil Rights movement. I believe it was the National Guard, not the US Army. If you have an article regarding this, I would like to see it. The use of the armed forces to act as a police power on American soil is illegal. It was outlawed by a law enacted in 1878.
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While I was watching his TV bit, he claims the world thinks we are an embarrassment by what is "going-on". So to end it, he's essentially invading the states with the military? Now what kind of embarrassment is that? To turn the military loose on American citizens? He's got some twisted values system, there.
 
uptower said:
It was a crap speech today: all he had to do was get up and call for calm. The local authorities can handle the 'law and order aspect'. He could have started with, 'Let's all come together and stop this madness. Offenders will be prosecuted, thanks.'

Instead he went hard for the right - a list of crimes and grievances, nationalist rhetoric, law and order and military mobilization. He even threw in the 2A for no apprent reason. All we heard was threats and boorish demands.
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That's a dog whistle. And an extremely dangerous one.
 
[Country leader with concentration camps threatens to deploy Military force against own citizens]

Cool.
 
Crime, especially looting and theft, rose sharply in the areas south of Miami immediately after Andrew. Reports indicate that merchandise was stolen at damaged or destroyed shopping centers in southern Dade County. Additionally, looting occurred in neighborhoods severely affected by the storm, even in homes where few possessions remained.[65][99]

Initially, the slow response of federal aid prompted Dade County Emergency Management Director Kate Hale to famously exclaim at a nationally televised news conference, "Where in the hell is the cavalry on this one? They keep saying we're going to get supplies. For God's sake, where are they?"

Almost immediately, President Bush promised, "Help is on the way," and mobile kitchens, food, and tents, along with over 20,000 units from the Florida Army National Guard (124th Infantry Regiment from Florida); the 24th Infantry Division from Fort Stewart, the 82nd Airborne Division in Fort Bragg, and the 10th Mountain Division from Fort Drum.[100][101]

In order to provide temporary housing for the homeless, military personnel initially set up a total of five tent cities in Florida City and Homestead,[102] while a sixth tent city was opened at the Miccosukee Indian Reservation shortly after Labor Day weekend.[103]

The Government of Canada dispatched a team 90 military engineers to repair community centers, hospitals, and schools. Additionally, a crew of 300 military personnel were sent to Miami via HMCS Protecteur to assist American relief teams.[104]
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Hurricane Andrew - Wikipedia


Using soldiers as police is stupid.
 
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HumblePi said:
It's illegal to use the US military for domestic control. It's the law. Only the National Guard and Navy Coast Guard can be used domestically for civil crowd control.
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This one takes the cake. :lamo

All enemies foreign and domestic.
 
Chomsky said:
If he declared this unilaterally, then I suppose it's now up to the governors to rebuke him. But damn. He's invading the states with the U.S. military. What the hell?
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Just like Abraham the outlaw president did.
 
trixare4kids said:
"The FBI has already started questioning rioters who were arrested in several cities to determine whether they committed any federal crimes, the senior Justice Department official said. It is a federal crime to cross state lines to participate in violent riot."

Law enforcement must '''dominate''' streets amid George Floyd protests, Trump says - ABC13 Houston

If the above is found to be happening, the federal government is well within their rights to intercede.

Cotton Calls for Trump to Use Insurrection Act, Deploy Active-Duty Military to Quell Riots
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But do the governors want Trump to have the military invade? Because that's exactly what it is, if Trump sends in the military against a governor's wishes. Apparently, the Trump call today with my governor was acrimonious, ending in disagreement, with Trump saying he disagrees with our governor just as our governor disagrees with him. If that's the case, Trump and his military should stay the hell out, and let us handle our internal problem the way we see fit. We don't need the military escalating our situation.
 
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The arrogance of him waving a bible in front of a church.

If there was a just god, there would lightening...
 
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