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Trump threatens to deploy military as George Floyd protests continue to shake the U.S.

Michael Johnson said:
Trump never made a move against the 1st Amendment. Get your facts right.
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Sure he did, he had the peaceful protestors near the white house tear gassed to remove them for a photo-op.
 
apdst said:
Burning and looting is protected by the 1st Amendment. :lamo
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So you claim the protestors at the White House were looting and burning?
 
HumblePi said:
And it's okay to fire tear gas and rubber bullets at PEACEFUL protesters in Washington so Trump can get a photo op of himself holding up a Bible in front of a church that's not even open? That's okay with you, really?
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I would have preferred real bullets.

All looters should be shot!

Peaceful protests are cover for criminal thugs.

Kill them all!
 
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Ikari said:
Since when has something being illegal ever stopped Trump?
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Exactly, the illegal surveillance by Obutthead on Trump's campaign, the illegal FBI / DOJ / CIA attempted coup against him, the illegal impeachment fiasco led by lying snitchers closesly associated with Adam SchittForBrains et al and guess what Trump is still President and well maybe 4 years 6 months more -- enjoy it!
 
beefheart said:
Trump's Ceaucescau moment....
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That is frightening but maybe true. I don't believe our military will accept an order to fire on American citizens though. I can't say that Trump might not do that though. A desperate sociopath is very unpredictable. Trump is watching his twisted dream fall apart before his very stable genius eyes.
 
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Aberro said:
I would have preferred real bullets.

All looters should be shot!

Peaceful protests are cover for criminal thugs.

Kill them all!
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You're confused again. The protesters in Washington that were tear-gassed by police to be able to clear the area for Trump's photo op were organized and peacefully protesting, any kind of trouble was far and away from the protesters. You think peaceful, law-abiding protesters should be shot with real bullets?
 
Praxas said:
So you claim the protestors at the White House were looting and burning?
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With 50-60 Secret Service injured, yeah **** them, shoot the leftist crap dead!
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
When the local police are overwhelmed we bring in the state police. When the state police are overwhelmed them we bring in the guard. But if the people of this country are having their businesses and lives threatened by low life criminals masquerading as protestors and have overwhelmed the police bring in the military to protect the good people of this country from the criminals. I speak for everyone in the military when I say there are no more proud and honorable people than our soldiers. They can be trusted to protect or citizens and should be used if needed.
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You know, I do believe you are genuinely acting in what you believe is the People's best interest. So I do thank you for this. And, I'm sure you & your Brothers would do a great job. But this is not the military's job, and not what our founders envisioned. I don't care what my fellow citizens are doing, I'm not going to turn the military on them.

But even adding to the concern and eliciting my emotions & passion on the subject, is my governor specifically argued with Trump over this today, and Trump basically shoved the military down our throat - because he could - despite our not wanting it here. Do you really want to go on the President's orders where you are not wanted? Do you want to push yourself upon your fellow citizens? And what about the LEO's who don't want you? You'll force yourself into their civilian jurisdictions?

I'm sorry my friend, but I strongly believe you heart, skills, and courage are best served where they are needed & wanted.

My state and city are dealing with the protesters & looters in the manner we so choose. We could crack down in a militaristic fashion, my city cops can handle anything, but we don't want that. Nor do we want Trump forcing himself or yourself upon us. If we need help, we'll ask. What we are asking, hopefully to be respected, is for you to stay out of our local jurisdiction and respect our handling our internal issue ourselves.

My post below was not part of our conversation, but I'll leave it with you so you can get a better appreciation of what transpired & the way we feel about all this in my city & state.


Chomsky said:
Well Trump's got more problems with military, than just with protesters. My governor is coming out hard against Trump, strongly saying he wants Trump & the military to stay the hell out of our business. My governor is always calm when on the air, but he's got big-time anger in his voice now. This could become a big problem. We've got Trump sending in soldiers, I assume armed, into a state & city that have their own well-armed law enforcement agencies that do not want the federal interlopers. The governor is saying what Trump is doing is illegal, and he will not allow it to occur in his state. And let's not forget the governor has the State police at his command!

I honestly have no idea WTH Trump is doing here? This has the potential to go bad. I can assure you my city's cops, a very formidable force numbering into 5 figures, are independent to the point of being insular. And they detest the feds getting in their business. This last I can fully attest to, having had local copper friends all my life. What a mess!

He better be bluffing ...
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Chomsky said:
But do the governors want Trump to have the military invade? Because that's exactly what it is, if Trump sends in the military against a governor's wishes. Apparently, the Trump call today with my governor was acrimonious, ending in disagreement, with Trump saying he disagrees with our governor just as our governor disagrees with him. If that's the case, Trump and his military should stay the hell out, and let us handle our internal problem the way we see fit. We don't need the military escalating our situation.
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has anybody thought about Trump declaring Marshal law?
then taking over everything and all that power going to his little head and declaring himself King
I wouldn't put anything pass the scumbag
Just wondering
Have a nice night
 
Top Cat said:
A former Altar Boy myself. What he did was a sacrilege. And yet the evangelicals will give us crickets.
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Hah! I would have done it, but I had a morning paper-route that interfered with the before school mass. I encourage my kids to be servers, though.

I'm done with Evangelicals. Even though I had differences with Evangelicals throughout life, I always tried to give them a pass because I assumed they were trying to live out their faith, and I can respect that. So I overlooked a lot of stuff I don't agree with. But now after Trump, I can see my good will towards them was misplaced, and it was all bull****.
 
Michael Johnson said:
Where in the **** have they gotten being under the Liberal thumb the past 60 years? Let's not pretend their economy strengthened under your inept party.
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So you're saying they should give the blatantly racist party a whirl for a change and see what that gets 'em, eh? Sure, what could go wrong?
 
Praxas said:
Sure he did, he had the peaceful protestors near the white house tear gassed to remove them for a photo-op.
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They were not peaceful at all. Dozens of Secret Service agents were injured trying to stop them from getting into the White House. That act alone was a serious federal offense and I hope those who were arrested get sent to Florence ADX for their actions.
 
Chomsky said:
Do you really want to go on the President's orders where you are not wanted?

My state and city are dealing with the protesters & looters in the manner we so choose. We could crack down in a militaristic fashion, my city cops can handle anything, but we don't want that. Nor do we want Trump forcing himself or yourself upon us. If we need help, we'll ask.
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Chomsky, think about the hundreds of thousands of soldiers that are shipped off to places we weren’t welcome. Places like Baghdad and Kabul .... places like Nazi Germany and Vietnam. When you sign up to join the military you recognize the president is your Commander in Chief.

Chomsky, If you are in a location where looting, arson, property damage and violence is occurring then your Mayor and local law enforcement officers are failing (or understandably overwhelmed). Democrats/anarchists are destroying businesses and homes. The liberal mayors can stand by while this happens, but President Trump will not.
 
apdst said:
It won't be martial law.
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are you so sure?
right now it looks like Trump is loosing it and he could push it and if things start going bad for him he just might declare it
With a guy like Trump in the WH you never know what he is going to do
Have a nice night
 
JMaximus said:
What is Nazi about wanting to stop violent rioting?
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Flashback to history:

The Bonus Army.

Hoover's response.

FDR's response.

Compare and contrast.
 
jpn said:
So you're saying they should give the blatantly racist party a whirl for a change and see what that gets 'em, eh? Sure, what could go wrong?
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Conservatives calling out hypocrisies isn't racist, that's just your incorrect definition of the term. And your party has been the most racist to blacks for decades, now.
 
Chuck9788 said:
The liberal mayors can stand by while this happens, but President Trump will not.
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Trump can stand by while cops murder unarmed black citizens, but liberal mayors will not.
 
JMaximus said:
What is Nazi about wanting to stop violent rioting?
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The violence is not coming from the protesters. Watch the video at the link.


Bogenholm said the video doesn’t fully capture the mob, with people of color largely at the back of the crowd and young white men initiating the damage to buildings.

Bogenholm and his friend demanded the men apologize for vandalizing the buildings and making black people look bad and then told them to leave. He said more people in the crowd turned on the men, and they rode off on bicycles.

“They knew they were in the wrong,” Bogenholm said. “And it was making us look bad.”

Hundreds of buildings across the Twin Cities have been damaged in the riots. A native youth cultural center, neighborhood bars and a building full of artist studios are among the structures that have been set on fire.
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Outsiders, extremists are among those fomenting violence in Twin Cities | MPR News
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Only someone who never served would even need to be told that our military can be trusted not to gun down the citizens of this country. We would handle the criminals burning an looting the same as we do our soldiers that get out of control. Isolate, restrain, and remove from the scene each and every last criminal. It would not take long for these cowards masquerading as protestors to turn tail and run. I can assure our soldiers will not be the ones running tail between their legs. Our soldiers will follow orders and bring these thugs under control quickly and efficiently.

I will be working the poles in the minority section tomorrow because the pole workers scheduled refuse because of the threats from these clowns masquerading as protestors. I will be there and we will see if the have the courage to vote for change. Maybe we will have a record turn out of over 25%. If even half these protestors showed and voted they could vote in anyone they want to make changes.

I am willing to bet the minorities don't show up and vote as usual. Then scream and shout how nothing gets done. Nothing gets done unless you do it. Where are the minority pol workers? I am willing to bet there isn't a single one when I get there at 6:00 am.

I will let you know the results tomorrow. I hope I am wrong. Oh and my mother will be working the poles with me as well in the place of the no show cowards.
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Well thanks for sharing the bolded, and for your patience & consideration here.

Kent State is something that stays on my mind, I suppose, their being national guard notwithstanding.
 
HennyBogan said:
Exactly, the illegal surveillance by Obutthead on Trump's campaign, the illegal FBI / DOJ / CIA attempted coup against him, the illegal impeachment fiasco led by lying snitchers closesly associated with Adam SchittForBrains et al and guess what Trump is still President and well maybe 4 years 6 months more -- enjoy it!
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Who's hiring the groups of violent thugs to do the burning and looting during these peaceful protests?

Outsiders, extremists are among those fomenting violence in Twin Cities | MPR News
 
I love seeing the occasional, rare examples of Republicans with principles:

Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R) criticized President Trump on Monday for his comments regarding nationwide protests in the wake of George Floyd’s death.

Earlier Monday, Trump called on governors during a video teleconference to “dominate” protesters and warned that “they’re going to run over you” if the state leaders fail to do so.

Baker reacted to Trump’s remarks during a press conference later in the day, saying that he’s not surprised by the President’s unhinged remarks toward governors.

“I heard what the President said today about dominating and fighting,” Baker said. “I know I should be surprised when I hear incendiary words like this from him, but I’m not.'”

Baker added that there have been “so many times” during the past several weeks when the country needed compassion and leadership but “it was simply nowhere to be found.”

“Instead, we got bitterness, combativeness, and self-interest. That’s not what we need in Boston, it’s not what we need right now in Massachusetts,” Baker said, before appearing to get choked up. “And it’s definitely not what we need across this great country of ours either.”
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jpn said:
The conservative politicians can stand by while cops murder unarmed black citizens, but liberal mayors will not.
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Yea, what are the liberal mayors doing? They are disgraceful. Let’s be frank, this won’t be last time that a police officer kills someone. So now this is what we should come to expect every time something unfortunate like this occurs? And the violent “protesters” don’t even have a set of demands. So it’s not even a protest in any way.

Why don’t you take time to look up some basic statistics?!? For example, blacks comprise of 3% of the total population in the USA, yet per the FBI they commit 52% of the murders. Or how about the fact that the police kill more while people than black people?

You Democrats are looking VERY WEAK right now. Moderates and independents are going to sway towards Trump as we get closer to the election. Jeez, it’s gotten so crazy that you even have Democrat leaders (like Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison) that are openly supporting the Antifa terrorists.
 
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