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Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Logophile said:
Then there's the Independents that are going decide this election, that you may have forgotten about, that will not investigate who exactly the money went to or why, only that it did. So it's really not very smart to start doling out dough - with unemployment lapping near twenty percent - to a bunch of people arrested that are associated with looting, smashing windows and setting autos and buildings on fire. Not too smart!!
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The assumption built in there is that those actually accused of property damage will benefit. I'm assuming it'll go to the more virtuous cases, such as those merely accused of 'public nuisance' or 'resisting arrest'. Neither of us knows at this stage. It may end up being some of each. You can expect independents to be split as well, and for many bigger issues will register.

The 'Biden Bails Blacks' narrative will likely appeal to Trump voters as a standalone scare tactic. Others will want to know the facts first.
 
Mongidig said:
If you can't afford bail then don't show up to the protest. Anybody out "protesting" now is looking trouble.

There are plenty of people doing the right thing and staying home. I can't help you if your stupid!
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The "State liberators" are all, "come on, guys, we were just doing a Comicon thing. See, there hadn't been a Comicon or even the surburban economy class patriot militia organization meeting and gear inspection in weeks. We just wanted to play dress up and get pics for our social media. Why so serious?"
 
Roadvirus said:
Their family can pawn the stuff they stole to make bail.
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Great, show us an arrested person let out on bail, then show that their family stole stuff in the riots. Just one example would be nice, or you could condemn everyone arrested, assume that if one person broke a window and looted all those arrested did, and assume that arrest = guilt. It's the American way! FREEDOM!!! unless you're arrested, then **** that - you're just a thug with criminal family!
 
jamesrage said:
And Biden's people are setting them free.
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No, they aren't. It's the justice system that allows people arrested but not found guilty to be released on bail. If you want that ended, just say so.
 
uptower said:
The assumption built in there is that those actually accused of property damage will benefit. I'm assuming it'll go to the more virtuous cases, such as those merely accused of 'public nuisance' or 'resisting arrest'. Neither of us knows at this stage. It may end up being some of each. You can expect independents to be split as well, and for many bigger issues will register.

The 'Biden Bails Blacks' narrative will likely appeal to Trump voters as a standalone scare tactic. Others will want to know the facts first.
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There will never be a narrative of "Biden Bails Blacks." Despite what so many people want - a racist Goliath - he isn't there. It's simply a myth. I don't know why racism has become a flash point but I do know that it's not a valid flash point. Poverty is; the disparity between the rich and the rest should be, but not racism. I've tried to demonstrate how rogue cops are rogue cops despite their race and despite their victims which are black , brown, yellow and white, and THAT needs to be addressed. But there are very few racist Americans these days, and there will be even less in the upcoming generation. In a population of over 325 million, the quintessential Klanners and Skinheads number in a couple hundred or less - think about that - and their mantras are not influential. We need to calm down - all of us - and recognize that we should be okay with each other because we are. I have full faith in 99.9 percent of Americans, left and right, and I think that whoever is elected, we should take heart with the confidence that we as a population will make it because we will!!
 
JasperL said:
That's beautiful. If you're poor then being arrested means staying in jail until trial and verdict! Of course rich people should be let out on bail, because you know privilege and **** the poor, amirite? The poor shouldn't subject themselves to arbitrary arrest, and if they are arrested we must assume they ARE guilty, because you know poor people suck or something...
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These people are guilty of being stupid. Anybody who was out on the streets after day one is a criminal.
 
Mongidig said:
These people are guilty of being stupid. Anybody who was out on the streets after day one is a criminal.
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Well, certainly being stupid is worth getting arrested and jailed without bail, perhaps for weeks or months.

It's fascinating how quickly you guys abandon the entire core of our justice system. It's almost like you don't believe in any of the principles of it and would welcome a dictatorship as long as the dictator targeted people you don't like.
 
JasperL said:
Well, certainly being stupid is worth getting arrested and jailed without bail, perhaps for weeks or months.

It's fascinating how quickly you guys abandon the entire core of our justice system. It's almost like you don't believe in any of the principles of it and would welcome a dictatorship as long as the dictator targeted people you don't like.
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Don't put yourself in bad situations.
 
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Your Star said:
The police are doing the real rioting. Any effort to release the innocent people they unlawfully arrest is a good effort.
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what exactly makes them innocent other than the standard presumption that until they are convicted of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, they remain innocent. If a mayor imposes a curfew and someone is out on the streets after the curfew takes place, are they innocent? if they are smashing windows and torching cars are they "innocent"?
 
Your Star said:
The police are doing the real rioting. Any effort to release the innocent people they unlawfully arrest is a good effort.
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Now I'm gonna have to vote for Trump again!
 
This is another topic where Trump will CRUSH Biden on the debate stage. What’s stumbling and bumbling Joe going to say when President Trump confronts him directly about his staff supporting Antifa?
 
Mongidig said:
Don't put yourself in bad situations.
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Right, proving my point.

"It's fascinating how quickly you guys abandon the entire core of our justice system. It's almost like you don't believe in any of the principles of it and would welcome a dictatorship as long as the dictator targeted people you don't like."
 
JasperL said:
No, they aren't. It's the justice system that allows people arrested but not found guilty to be released on bail. If you want that ended, just say so.
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Horse ****. If you pail someone's bail then you are setting them free.
 
dave8383 said:
No, not everybody who was jailed was a rioter. You're just spreading BS, stroking flames.
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Sure someone of them were looting, some of them were vandalizing property that isn't there or assaulting other people.
 
Michael Cole said:
What part of this don't you understand? Biden's staff donates to a group that puts up bail for poor suspects. Sounds normal to me. 8th Amendment you know. Innocent until proven guilty you know. Freedom, not autocracy. You seem very unAmerican.

Nobody is being set free. They're being released on bail, just like those who can make bail using their own resources. Food bank for bail-bondsmen. It's the American thing to do. Everyone gets their day in court. Let's get real here, please.
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To claim they are not being set free is a lie. If you are released from jail then you are no longer in jail and therefore free.
 
JasperL said:
If those arrested and getting bailed out are violent offenders, look at the courts who allow for bail for those offenders. And if you think that arrest = guilty, then say that. You're implying it, by saying that because someone was arrested and allowed out on bail, they ARE GUILTY, and not just of BS charges like being out after curfew or what some journalists were arrested for doing but violent crimes or serious vandalism. Fortunately, being charged in this country isn't a guilty sentence, and those allowed bail are allowed out if they can afford the amount. Do you object to that system in general? If arrested, held indefinitely until a guilty verdict or not? If so, say it. Be honest about what you want here.

It's amazing how quickly you guys jettison the core foundation of this country when it works to demonize people and maybe elected Republicans.
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You can't be that bright if you honestly expect us to believe that cops have nothing else better to do than to arrest peaceful protesters when they are scumbags looting, rioting, assaulting people, committing arson or being a nuisance by blocking traffic. They aren't worried about the people acting peacefully and not being a nuisance.
 
jamesrage said:
Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis - Reuters
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city’s police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

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President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign on Saturday said it was “disturbing” that Biden’s team “would financially support the mayhem that is hurting innocent people and destroying what good people spent their lives building,” in an email about the Reuters story that called for Biden to condemn the riots.
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"Progressive" is starting to mean "Anarchist" - not a big fan of all this...Biden campaign members shouldn't be trying to help bail people out of jail for any reason

If there's corruption in law enforcement (which there is), mandate racial-sensitivity trainings for cops, strict penalties and jail sentences for cops who display racial profiling, abuse of power, etc. - but if we start making a mockery of the criminal justice system, crime rates will go through the roof, and no one, of any race or ethnicity, will be safe
 
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jamesrage said:
To claim they are not being set free is a lie. If you are released from jail then you are no longer in jail and therefore free.
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FREE ON BAIL

8th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Have you ever read the Constitution of the United States?

What has your mind in a twist here? It's a constitutional right. Get over it.
 
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