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Trump announces US to designate Antifa as terrorist organization following violent protests

Bucky said:
You mean like Islamic radicalism?
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um, no?

ISIS, Al Qaeda, and to a lesser extent the Taliban are all very structured and organized groups with a coherent power structure and chain-of-command. They also have comprehensive strategic goals that they hope to achieve and are presented in carefully expressed ideological terms.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
...Okay?
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The problem is we are at war with every racist piece of **** in this country. The problem is there are a lot of racists pieces of ****s in this country and the world.
 
Irredentist said:
If they're American citizens then they do have rights. Calling them "terrorists" doesn't change that.
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You think the full weight of Us SIGINT can’t figure out who Antifa dumbasses are? This was perfected in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 20 years. Those drones flying over MN aren’t just taking pictures they are combing the airwaves for data.
 
Aberro said:
You think the full weight of Us SIGINT can’t figure out who Antifa dumbasses are? This was perfected in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 20 years. Those drones flying over MN aren’t just taking pictures they are combing the airwaves for data.
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If you carry a cell phone, they know where you are. Not to mention your level of funds in the bank, your shopping habits, and your porn preferences.
 
Irredentist said:
Big deal. Like most of what trump says, it means exactly nothing. There is no official process for designating a domestic group as a terrorist organization, nor is there any policy in place for how to deal with such an organization once it is designated. Trump is just blowing hot air.
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There's only one problem, Trump has the Attorney General, you know.... the guy that deems who is a criminal and who isn't... in his pocket. Bill Barr is Trump's handmaiden and has skirted around the US Constitution several times already. What's stopping him now?
 
Careful what you wish for, righties. There's a long list of right wing militias that would fit the latest FBI description of terrorist organizations, too.
 
HumblePi said:
There's only one problem, Trump has the Attorney General, you know.... the guy that deems who is a criminal and who isn't... in his pocket. Bill Barr is Trump's handmaiden and has skirted around the US Constitution several times already. What's stopping him now?
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You mean like Obama’s wingman? Eric holder?
 
Bucky said:
The problem is we are at war with every racist piece of **** in this country. The problem is there are a lot of racists pieces of ****s in this country and the world.
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And they are running our government. This is precisely why there are extreme left organizations that are anti-fascists such as Antifa which literally stands for 'anti-fascism'.
 
Aberro said:
Do terrorist have Constitutional rights? Are Terrorists protected by the Geneva Convention? | The Rational Animal

We find ourselves at war. But it is not a conventional war against a conventional enemy that flies a flag, or wears a uniform, or protects a border. It is a war against terrorists. But before we consider the rules and laws regarding a war against terrorist let’s look first at a more conventional war.

In World War II when we captured a German or Japanese soldier did we read them their Miranda rights? Did we appoint them a Public Defender? Were they able to appeal their “case” to the US Court system. No? Why not? Because as enemy combatants they were NOT protected by the Constitution, they were protected by the Geneva Convention.
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ANTIFA is made up of American citizens. They operate within the borders of this country. They are not "enemy combatants".
 
Aberro said:
Trump announces US to designate Antifa as terrorist organization following violent protests | Fox News

Couple years late, but better late than never.
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Please give us three examples of Antifa committing acts of terrorism. To be clear: terrorism, not being violent. They are different things. I bet you can't. I bet you actually have no idea what this group is, but prove me wrong.

Terrorism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

This sounds like more red meat thrown to Trump's ignorant base to distract from all the criticism he is getting for his abysmal job handling the pandemic and handling violence in the streets.
 
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Moot said:
Careful what you wish for, righties. There's a long list of right wing militias that would fit the latest FBI description of terrorist organizations, too.
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But Trump wouldn't label those groups as terrorists because they're doing his bidding.
 
Aberro said:
You think the full weight of Us SIGINT can’t figure out who Antifa dumbasses are? This was perfected in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 20 years. Those drones flying over MN aren’t just taking pictures they are combing the airwaves for data.
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Ok, what does that accomplish? The people you're spying on are still American citizens with constitutional rights.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
ANTIFA is made up of American citizens. They operate within the borders of this country. They are not "enemy combatants".
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Trump is an American citizen, but the Obama government illegally spied on him, what’s your point?
Now, anyone antifa can legally be spied on.
 
Bucky said:
The problem is we are at war with every racist piece of **** in this country. The problem is there are a lot of racists pieces of ****s in this country and the world.
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Okay.
 
Aberro said:
You mean like Obama’s wingman? Eric holder?
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You are correct only to the point that Eric Holder was indeed President Obama's Attorney General. That's where the comparison ends.
 
SCrider said:
Who actually is ANIFA?
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Jezcoe said:
How do you tell Antifa apart from other people?
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Antifa stands for "Anti-Fascist", which means Anti-"Very Fine People" in Trumpland.

So according to Trump, anyone who stands against Neo Nazis and the KKK is now considered a terrorist. Interesting position for a POTUS to take.
 
Superfly said:
Cool. I'm down with that.

Now how about the Klan, Proud Boys, QAnon, etc?

They next?
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Why would "very fine people" be put onto a terrorist list?
 
HumblePi said:
It's just wrong. Antifa is not a terrorist organization and there are ramifications to labeling them as such. They are a militant, left-wing, anti-fascist political activist movement, the same as Aryan Nations, American Freedom Party or Patriot Front are right-wing, militant white supremacist groups.
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Another terrorist coddler/enabler unhappy that they can't get away with wanton destruction.

It's about time these terrorists are finally charged with federal crimes as they should be.
 
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