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NYPD officer plows into crowd of George Floyd protesters in Brooklyn

Eriech said:
These officers showed incredible restraint.

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What do you think would be an appropriate response?
 
humbolt said:
Protest away, but those people aren't peacefully protesting. You may have noticed that in the video. I know I did. The police appear to be in control. The "protestors" appear to be rioting.
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I don’t agree that driving a car into a crowd of people demonstrates control. The protesters are in the right. The police in America have long been reckless and prone to using disproportionate force. This has been well documented since 9/11. I surprised to find those who normally complain about fascist government and the deep state, are now keen to defend the very apparatus of state oppression against citizens exercising their constitutional rights to protest. If the protests get a little heated, so what? Doesn’t the tree of liberty need to be refreshed occasionally with the blood of tyrants?
 
Bucky said:
Have you actually ever been to a protest? I have been caught in some BLM protests (by accident). It is easy to get distracted, thus the real thugs show up and cause damage. The police get confused and cannot tell the protesters from the criminals. Since everyone is wearing a mask, it is hard to tell who is who.
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Like this young woman with grocery bags?

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holbritter said:
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“ We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed...We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that "justice too long delayed is justice denied."

I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law.”
-Martin Luther King
 
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Decypher said:
What do you think would be an appropriate response?
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I know if I tried driving up ANY street and some group of people came and blocked the street and told me "Street is closed, back up" I know one thing I wouldnt do, Plow through them. Id go into reverse instead of plowing through 20 people.
 
Decypher said:
I don’t agree that driving a car into a crowd of people demonstrates control. The protesters are in the right. The police in America have long been reckless and prone to using disproportionate force. This has been well documented since 9/11. I surprised to find those who normally complain about fascist government and the deep state, are now keen to defend the very apparatus of state oppression against citizens exercising their constitutional rights to protest. If the protests get a little heated, so what? Doesn’t the tree of liberty need to be refreshed occasionally with the blood of tyrants?
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The rioters - not protestors- were blocking the police in a publuc roadway, and further attacked the police when they stopped their vehicle. The police response was reasonable.

That an injustice has occurred is not a reason to burn the country down. Why don't you tell me exactly how a thousand more injustices committed by rioting will correct the one we witnessed?
 
Well it is obvious that the correct way to protest is to show up in force, heavily armed at a State capitol building.
 
humbolt said:
The rioters - not protestors- were blocking the police in a publuc roadway, and further attacked the police when they stopped their vehicle. The police response was reasonable.

That an injustice has occurred is not a reason to burn the country down. Why don't you tell me exactly how a thousand more injustices committed by rioting will correct the one we witnessed?
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The riots are not about an injustice, they are about the conduct of the President.
 
Bucky said:
Have you actually ever been to a protest? I have been caught in some BLM protests (by accident). It is easy to get distracted, thus the real thugs show up and cause damage. The police get confused and cannot tell the protesters from the criminals. Since everyone is wearing a mask, it is hard to tell who is who.
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The solution, to alter a common phrase...Arrest them all, sort them out later.
 
Mycroft said:
The solution, to alter a common phrase...Arrest them all, sort them out later.
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That was the common solution here in the deep south for civil rights marches
 
Perhaps the police should back out of the confrontation and let it run it's course. Without the police what else is left for the rioters to burn.
 
vegas giants said:
That was the common solution here in the deep south for civil rights marches
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Were people burning and looting during those civil rights marches? If so, then that was a good solution.
 
noonereal said:
The riots are not about an injustice, they are about the conduct of the President.
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I'm sure we'll hear a plethora of convoluted BS stories. So, Trump mudered Floyd. Wait. No. Trump's policies murdered Floyd. Wait. It isn't about Floyd at all. It's about _________.

There's no excuse for rioting. If you can't articulate your grievance in an intelligent and compelling manner, you riot? That's what 3 year olds do, you know.
 
vegas giants said:
That was the common solution here in the deep south for civil rights marches
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Or this tactic... sure to get the people on your side...

[video]https://streamable.com/u2jzoo[/video]
 
avatar said:
Perhaps the police should back out of the confrontation and let it run it's course. Without the police what else is left for the rioters to burn.
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Everything.

Seriously, do you want a lawless mob to be able to destroy everything? Will you want the police to "back out" when that mob gets to your neighborhood?
 
humbolt said:
The rioters - not protestors- were blocking the police in a publuc roadway, and further attacked the police when they stopped their vehicle. The police response was reasonable.

That an injustice has occurred is not a reason to burn the country down. Why don't you tell me exactly how a thousand more injustices committed by rioting will correct the one we witnessed?
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I am not an expert in policing but I am pretty sure driving into the public who pay your wages is not a correct response to a crowd in the road.
 
Mycroft said:
Everything.

Seriously, do you want a lawless mob to be able to destroy everything? Will you want the police to "back out" when that mob gets to your neighborhood?
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How is their solution working out so far?
 
Godric1970 said:
they have tried everything else and the murders by the police on blacks still continue are they to do nothing ??
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Things don't change overnight. It takes years and years to affect positive change. That is the problem with protesters in situations like these.
 
Decypher said:
I don’t agree that driving a car into a crowd of people demonstrates control. The protesters are in the right. The police in America have long been reckless and prone to using disproportionate force. This has been well documented since 9/11. I surprised to find those who normally complain about fascist government and the deep state, are now keen to defend the very apparatus of state oppression against citizens exercising their constitutional rights to protest. If the protests get a little heated, so what? Doesn’t the tree of liberty need to be refreshed occasionally with the blood of tyrants?
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and where do you live...so we can send them down to YOUR neighborhood...burn down your stores, homes, cars

you might mind, will you?
 
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Perhaps the police should back out of the confrontation and let it run it's course. Without the police what else is left for the rioters to burn.
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Hmm... should we really just let looters empty out all stores and then set fire to those (evil commercial?) buildings? Why not at least fire all the police and firefighters first - reallocating those funds to help offset the resulting UI costs?
 
gdgyva said:
and where do you live...so we can send them down to YOUR neighborhood...burn down your stores, homes, cars

you might mind, will you?
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That's the dirty little secret about this type of unrest... I would wager > 95% of the posters here live in suburbia and their REAL fear is they know if they came to your neighborhood there is not enough law enforcement to stop them... Then they would have some hard choices to make after all that tough talk...
 
Mycroft said:
Everything.

Seriously, do you want a lawless mob to be able to destroy everything? Will you want the police to "back out" when that mob gets to your neighborhood?
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I'm actually curious what the message from those protesting the police would become if such a thing happened. At this point, what are the police really doing but attempting to prevent more damage. What to the rioters want the police to do?
 
Jezcoe said:
Well it is obvious that the correct way to protest is to show up in force, heavily armed at a State capitol building.
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it is....and was there any violence there? were there any shots fired?

march....protest....picket....tat is the AMERICAN WAY

when it turns into rioting, you LOSE the backing of most of the people you want

MLK never threw a rock....a brick....or a bottle....yet, throwing his words swayed a nation

and what do you suppose the protestors WANT? we have a few of these incidents a year....with 800k LE officers on patrol here in the USA, i am amazed that it isnt more

you arent going to FIX the police this way....just going to embolden them more because some of them are bound to get hurt during these protests.....

so again...what do the protestors plan to gain? or is there a plan?
 
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I'm actually curious what the message from those protesting the police would become if such a thing happened. At this point, what are the police really doing but attempting to prevent more damage. What to the rioters want the police to do?
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What damage was caused by a crowd in the middle of a street?
 
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