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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    ...social issues like domestic violence are based on socio-economic issues, not genes. And yes, there are still some male-dominated cultures that find it ok to abuse women...that's about men of all colors and ethnicities. And it's wrong. Period. It's not a diversity issue, that's pure BS. And who cares if there are less white people? I live in the US under the Constitution. I appreciate diversity. Why do we need more white people? Why do white people need to be a majority? It's obvious that some kind of insecurity about needing that majority, that 'supremacy' is what's driving the continued racism in the US even when educated people know better. The cure for just about everything is less people and higher quality of life, period. Crowding, lack of jobs, resources, etc is the cause of strife and resentment, not race or ethnicity. If everyone felt secure socio-economically, we'd see such strife reduced significantly.
    Bravo! Your intelligent, yet respectful dismantling of the original poster is a thing of beauty!
    Based on the cogent points you made, my guess is that you must teach sociology. Glad to meet you here.

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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by dcaraz View Post
    Bravo! Your intelligent, yet respectful dismantling of the original poster is a thing of beauty!
    Based on the cogent points you made, my guess is that you must teach sociology. Glad to meet you here.
    Not even close, I barely like people

    My first degree is a BS in Natural Resource Management...protecting the environment, not people. I did study sociology in college tho and have read alot of evolutionary biology which delves into social and cultural issues, believe it or not.

    But thank you, I appreciate your comment.
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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Police, experts condemn knee restraint used on George Floyd



    THIS is reality. It is blatant, it is brutal, it is illegal and he has been arrested and charged with murder and manslaughter.
    Just as you were wrong about having his hand in his pocket you are wrong in your personal assessment as well. Deal with it.
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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post
    Trump’s motto was and is inherently flawed because despite what conservatives fantasize, America never stopped being great. It certainly didn’t need a draft dodger who went after POWs to make it “great again”.

    On the other hand, the “good old days” where you could scream about how minorities having rights was “communism” are gone, and they aren’t ever coming back.,

    America didn’t really “overtake” Britain and the other European powers until after World War Two, where xenophobia and nativism left them completely wrecked(and, of course, it’s rather telling how much the nativists and isolationists here in the US admired Hitler and Nazi Germany). America didn’t emerge as a hyper power until the 1990s. So your premise is faulty...as usual.

    The delusion that everyone in America was “rowing the boat in the same directly” is pretty funny. Apparently you don’t know anything about early American history, because there were new crisises practically every other day. It’s a damn miracle the country didn’t fall apart.
    Pathological altruism is at epidemic proportions in what asians outside the US refer to as “The White Left”.
    Where do you think all this Social Justice virtue signaling nonsense comes from?

    Van Jones on Friday morning called out the white limousine liberals.

    “It’s not the racist white person who’s in the Ku Klux Klan that we have to worry about,” Van Jones said.

    EVEN VAN JONES OF CNN TIRES OF YOUR KIND:
    “It’s the white liberal Hillary Clinton supporter walking her dog in Central Park…people like that…who would
    tell you right now ‘oh I don’t see race, race is no big deal to me, I see us as all the same'”

    There is nothing more vomit inducing than a self loathing white liberal. WhIte Liberals are a bigger threat
    to white people than non-white street mobs.

    Do you realize you have over 27,000 posts that are not worth reading. Keep it up if you must, why stop now!
    There isn’t enough help in the world that could fix your level of delusion. Seriously...stop pretending to know things.
    Your mind is crippled by bias & hatred, no responsible lawyer would ever include you in a jury to judge these matters

    White Liberals have nearly ruined Western Civilization worldwide.

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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Unlike some past protests I could name, this one is without doubt fully justified by the incontrovertible evidence of a capital murder committed by an officer of the law.

    The riots, however, are not justified, and I'm appalled to see a moron like Colin Kaepernick-- whom I never cared about one way or the other before-- opine that rioting and revenge are the proper exercise of the people (I paraphrase). Some other fool was trying to compare this senseless orgy of destruction to the American Revolution, which proves how little the last couple of generations know about American history.

    In Minneapolis some idiot rioter-- white, I believe-- claimed that the riot was in revenge for all the ills of American society, like slavery and the extermination of Native Americans. Give me a break! How much does it help any poverty-stricken Native Americans to burn an AutoZone? More proof that virtue signaling is really designed as a shield to let supposedly virtuous persons get away with murder.
    Bar room brawls are not justified either--unless in self defense. However, the seething anger, resentment and personal hurt that often will explode after too much drinking
    is so much better understood than a riot. At this moment millions of black Americans are experiencing seething anger, resentment and great personal pain following a modern lynching on video.
    Explain that to your perplexed 4th grader.

    Some people will hold their temper. Some will cry at home. Some will pray. But a few will torch the damn place. And most black Americans will agree with you that rioting is wrong.
    But their pain doesn't need your justification--or mine. That rage simmers between egregious indefensible racially-motivated hate crimes because too often black human beings are made
    to feel as if they are less than the white majority. And if in America's 244th year as a democracy, we don't do a better job of addressing racial injustice, this decade could rival the 1960s as
    a time when more than 60 terrible riots rocked our nation.

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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    Yes, it's an absolute mess, as is the post I'm responding to now.
    Besides being wrong as usual, muti-quoting is not a mess, nor is taking the step I do to provided a separation between individual posters to which I am responding.

    All you are doing is complaining to complain.
    Get over it.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    I didn't see this.
    That was on you for not paying attention to that which came before.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    Was it buried in that LONG post?
    So again with the not paying attention or doing even the slightest of follow-through. Figures.
    It was quoted which provides a link to follow.
    Had you bothered to follow it you would have seen it was a single post.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    The link is a WaPo article (paywalled) and useless.
    I certainly do not have a subscription and I do not see any paywall.

    You may not like the information but it isn't useless either.
    Now if you had bothered to do some follow-through you could have searched out the first relevant line from that report in your preferred search engine and found the same AP report at other news agencies.
    Such as the following.
    Google Search


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    And clearly (as even you point out) he can be charged with a crime (s).
    No. My commentary was caveated with possibility.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    I look forward to seeing the policy, but I can't imagine it was followed here.
    Understood. You have no imagination when it comes to the possibility a police officer was doing their job, but clearly have the imagination to suggest that he wasn't. That is called a bias.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    Absolutely was cruel.
    Wrong. Keeping a person who had resisted, or is still resisting, until such time as it is reasonable to release such hold is not cruel.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    Even if he was resisting prior to the video, he wasn't then, and was restrained and on the ground. There was no reason to continue.
    Wrong. He was still resisting while cuffed.
    FFS it took four cops on top of him to secure him. And yet somehow you think he was not resisting? Doh!


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    As I pointed out - he wasn't lying. He was in obvious distress.
    He was obviously lying about not being able to breath.
    That is pretty much standard among those who resist.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    No, his airway wasn't blocked.
    And thus lying about not being able to breath.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    But he was in obvious distress. Again - classic sign of cardiac distress, which the officer, trained in first aid, should have known.
    And an ambulance was called.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    First aid should have been given,
    No, and especially not while he was still resisting.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    - not after he passed out, and certainly not minutes later.
    Please support your comment by providing the actual timeline of events.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    It is obvious this was an unnecessary use of force and the officers failed to respond to a medical emergency
    Wrong.
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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by dcaraz View Post
    Bar room brawls are not justified either--unless in self defense. However, the seething anger, resentment and personal hurt that often will explode after too much drinking
    is so much better understood than a riot. At this moment millions of black Americans are experiencing seething anger, resentment and great personal pain following a modern lynching on video.
    Explain that to your perplexed 4th grader.

    Some people will hold their temper. Some will cry at home. Some will pray. But a few will torch the damn place. And most black Americans will agree with you that rioting is wrong.
    But their pain doesn't need your justification--or mine. That rage simmers between egregious indefensible racially-motivated hate crimes because too often black human beings are made
    to feel as if they are less than the white majority. And if in America's 244th year as a democracy, we don't do a better job of addressing racial injustice, this decade could rival the 1960s as
    a time when more than 60 terrible riots rocked our nation.
    But what would this "better job" consist of?

    Is there really any philosophy, any system, that historically has been able to prevent one group of humans from doing s**t to another group?

    Or, for that matter, unpredictable individuals?

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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I just saw the devastation on the news. One burned down building after another. There's fires still burning all over the city. Why are these people being allowed to continue in this destruction? People in the area pay taxes for protection for themselves and their businesses so where is it? More than 120 businesses have been looted and destroyed. In many areas there is no police or firefighter presence. What's the governor doing? What is the mayor doing? How about the police chief? Why haven't the police officers involved in the death of Floyd been arrested?
    Derek Chauvin (the neck-kneeler) meanwhile has been.

    Charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter.

    The other three are under investigation.
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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    Pathological altruism is at epidemic proportions in what asians outside the US refer to as “The White Left”.
    Where do you think all this Social Justice virtue signaling nonsense comes from?

    Van Jones on Friday morning called out the white limousine liberals.

    “It’s not the racist white person who’s in the Ku Klux Klan that we have to worry about,” Van Jones said.

    EVEN VAN JONES OF CNN TIRES OF YOUR KIND:
    “It’s the white liberal Hillary Clinton supporter walking her dog in Central Park…people like that…who would
    tell you right now ‘oh I don’t see race, race is no big deal to me, I see us as all the same'”

    There is nothing more vomit inducing than a self loathing white liberal. WhIte Liberals are a bigger threat
    to white people than non-white street mobs.

    Do you realize you have over 27,000 posts that are not worth reading. Keep it up if you must, why stop now!
    There isn’t enough help in the world that could fix your level of delusion. Seriously...stop pretending to know things.
    Your mind is crippled by bias & hatred, no responsible lawyer would ever include you in a jury to judge these matters

    White Liberals have nearly ruined Western Civilization worldwide.
    Ethnonationalism nearly destroyed civilization— not just western civilization— outright.

    Forty million dead wasn’t enough for you lot, and so the slaughter has continued, over and over and over again, from Rwanda to Yugoslavia to Indonesia.

    Ethnonationalists have always seen members of the group who won’t join in or support thr slaughter as a bigger threat than even the minorities they want to “get rid of” so your rage against “white liberals” comes as no surprise.

    Do you realize nobody cares what you think? Seriously, your posts, other than being a mildly interesting view into a long discarded and disgraced past, have no importance whatsoever.

    So crying about how much of a victim you think you are and face the real world.

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    Re: Chaos In Minneapolis: Looting Occurring In the City, Tear Gas Being Used

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    More white folks are killed by police than black folks. 98% of murdered blacks are nurdered by other blacks.
    Blacks are 20% of the population but account for over half the people killed by police.
    • People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista
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