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Video shows Minneapolis cop with knee on neck of motionless, moaning man who later died

trixare4kids said:
I think everyone would agree with the above, but was there a reason you felt it necessary to stereotype, imply that good, decent cops would protect this monster?
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Cops get protected in these situations all the time.
 
Deuce said:
Cops get protected in these situations all the time.
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Bad cops protect bad cops, and no one said that their kind don't exist, but what percentage of bad cops who protect other bad cops do you believe exist? Got a source that says "cops get protected in these situations all the time"?

Contrary to what appears to be your own jaded position against all cops, I believe most cops are good, decent men who want nothing more than to get rid of the bad apples, like the MN. cop, who surely used the poorest judgment, from the force.
 
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PoS said:
Youre saying it was intentional murder? No, I cant believe that. Firstly, why would he do it on purpose in front of all those people? I think he just got carried away.
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That doesn't mean that he didn't kill someone and shouldn't be properly held accountable for it.
 
PoS said:
Youre saying it was intentional murder? No, I cant believe that. Firstly, why would he do it on purpose in front of all those people? I think he just got carried away.
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He's also saying that cops would protect other cops who commit willful murder. :shock:

Some, instead of examining their own personal cop bias, blather ignorant stereotypical cop hate.
 
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Ikari said:
That doesn't mean that he didn't kill someone and shouldn't be properly held accountable for it.
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Maybe you missed this?
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I would still regard it as manslaughter though. The cop who did it deserves to be charged, and at the very least-fired.
 
trixare4kids said:
Bad cops protect bad cops, and no one said that their kind don't exist, but what percentage of bad cops who protect other bad cops do you believe exist? Got a source that says "cops get protected in these situations all the time"?

Contrary to what appears to be your own jaded position against all cops, I believe most cops are good, decent men who want nothing more than to get rid of the bad apples, like the MN. cop, who surely used the poorest judgment, from the force.
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I will believe that when this result becomes the norm rather than the exception.
 
ecofarm said:
You attacked sovereign immunity.

You want to see a good cop that made a mistake in a horrible circumstance be prosecuted for malice. That's hate.
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No, most of us just want them prosecuted the same way a civilian would when they make a mistake and kill someone.
 
Deuce said:
I will believe that when this result becomes the norm rather than the exception.
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How about proving what you write for a change?
So again, I'll ask, "Bad cops protect bad cops, and no one said that their kind don't exist, but what percentage of bad cops who protect other bad cops do you believe exist? Got a source that says "cops get protected in these situations all the time"?

And your opinion means very little to me ... Show me the facts that source what you wrote above or admit it's just your own biases talking.
 
Questerr said:
No, most of us just want them prosecuted the same way a civilian would when they make a mistake and kill someone.
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No. Very few people fail to grasp the difference between a mistake made in the line of duty under stress and trying to murder someone.
 
ecofarm said:
Police hold each other responsible for this. In every group is a counter-productive, even criminal, 5%. Cops don't like it any more than we do.
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But alas they generally don't do anything about it until enough public pressure mounts on them to do something about it first.
 
Atomic Kid said:
But alas they generally don't do anything about it until enough public pressure mounts on them to do something about it first.
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A more measured objection than others.
 
HumblePi said:
[h=1]Video shows Minneapolis cop with knee on neck of motionless, moaning man who later died[/h]
A video taken by an onlooker Monday evening shows a Minneapolis police officer keeping his knee on the neck of a motionless, moaning man at the foot of a squad car. The man later died.
A police statement said officers were responding to a "forgery in progress."

"Officers were advised that the suspect was sitting on top of a blue car and appeared to be under the influence," the statement said. "Two officers arrived and located the suspect, a male believed to be in his 40s, in his car. He was ordered to step from his car.

"After he got out, he physically resisted officers. Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress. Officers called for an ambulance," according to the statement.

Video shows Minneapolis cop with knee on neck of motionless, moaning man - CBS News
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This is all very reminiscent of the Eric Garner, "I can't breathe" case in New York in 2014, a case that took five years to reach a conclusion and get rid of the NY police officer that choked Eric Garner until he died. But that's it, he got fired.

This incident in Minneapolis only shows that our police forces haven't quite learned yet that you cannot hold anyone in a position that threatens their life. Police such as these are out of control and should be prosecuted.

I know there's a video out there that's 11 minutes long, I couldn't watch it but I did hear part of the audio when he was begging this officer, telling him he couldn't breathe. This makes me so ashamed of our country as a whole because this is where we've sunk and it's not good.
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These officers run toward danger while you run away from it. Instead of blaming the officers, ruining his life like the media does, wait for the results of the investigation. Criticize after all the evidence has been presented.
Remember the Darren Wilson case. You got that one wrong.
 
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ecofarm said:
Making a mistake on the job under stress is not the same as murdering someone.
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Killing someone, even if on accident, is manslaughter though and a person should be prosecuted for it.
 
ecofarm said:
No. Very few people fail to grasp the difference between a mistake made in the line of duty under stress and trying to murder someone.
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Sure they do. It's why murder and manslaughter are different charges. But the point is that they cops should be charged if they commit either crime, the same way a civilian would.
 
A big part of the problem is that prosecutors are motivated to keep good relations with the police. Without police cooperation, prosecutors don't get convictions, and if they don't get convictions they don't get promoted or re-elected.

That's why there should be a completely separate and independent body to investigate and prosecute suspected police crime.
 
Fledermaus said:
Your EVIDENCE that he INTENDED to kill?



No defense was presented....

Simply trying to quit using words that don't apply. Along the same line as the "Treason" word being thrown about ignorantly.
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You don’t need to have intended to kill the person to be charged with murder.

For example in NY even if you didn’t intend to kill the person you can be charged with 2nd degree murder if


“2. Under circumstances evincing a depraved indifference to human life,
he recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to
another person, and thereby causes the death of another person; “

Don’t know about this case but the idea that you had to intend to murder to be charged with murder is false.
 
ecofarm said:
No. Very few people fail to grasp the difference between a mistake made in the line of duty under stress and trying to murder someone.
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Police need to be held to some standard of care in performing their jobs. Right now it’s virtually impossible - thanks to immunity and union contracts - to hold police to any standard.
 
ecofarm said:
A more measured objection than others.
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And the underlying truth to that is that there are certainly many more cases of police brutality that haven't been documented by videos such as this that have gone unnoticed by the public.
 
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