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Federal judge hires high-powered D.C. attorney to defend his actions in Flynn case Judge Emmet G. S

1. he violated his own precedent and other scotus rulings on his amicus hunting.

He has not violated his own precedent. In fact Sidney Powell in a brief before the court praised Judge Sullivan for a precedent ruling of his in the Stevens case, where he appointed an independent a investigator to investigate prosecutorial misconduct, after the case had been dropped by the AG in light of that misconduct. So not only did Sidney Powell recognize that Judge Sullivan has the authority to appoint an amicus, she recognized that Sullivan has the authority to do much more than that.

2. he stood in front of the court and said that flynn should be charged for treason. that right there is cause for mistrial or a new judge.

Judge Sullivan did not say that Flynn should be charged with treason. After viewing the statements of offenses by Mr. Flynn in the Special Counsel's sentencing memorandum, much of which is redacted, Judge Sullivan said that he would not and could not withhold from expressing his "disgust and disdain" for the criminal conduct of the defendant and then wondered aloud to the prosecutor if there's a point where conduct of that sort would be considered treasonous. Which was a rhetorical point really for expressing his level of outrage with Flynn's conduct and has he had already accepted the charges and the pleas and had entered them into the record and with that the trial phase of the case was over.

3. he is in violation of a dc court ruling that said it is up to the executive to prosecute. not him.

The prosecution was over with. Pleas entered and accepted and a judgement rendered. Barr was too late.

4. he purposely ignored evidence that proved flynn innocent.

There was no new or exculpatory evidence presented in the motion. Zero of the documents cited in it were new to the DOJ. Indeed almost all of those documents were dealt with by the prosecutors in Powell's Brady demand, at a time when Bill Barr was the AG, so even Sullivan knew of them.

5. for all his ranting about perjury he sure doesn't hold the prosecutor that lied to him for months accountable.

What lies did the prosecutor make? Can you cite any? Or is that just your own rant?



facts say otherwise that is why we have them.
if you think they are a lie then prove it.

i say so is not an argument.

'I say so' is all you do. You ask others for proof for your false claims while never providing or citing any proof for any of them yourself. You have at best a elementary school kid's understanding of the law and the Constitution. So arguing with you often feels pretty much like arguing with a child.
 
Sorry it is not when it is a judge.
you lose.

it is a cause for a mistrial and for the judge to recuse himself as he cannot be a neutral party.

what you are sharing with us is that a high ranking official who betrays his country is found acceptable in tRump world

only confirms what most of us have long believed
 
facts state otherwise. i have posted plenty of information.

Impeachment and Removal of Judges: An Explainer | Brennan Center for Justice

once again facts say you are wrong.

With respect to federal judges, under Article I of the United States Constitution, the House of Representatives has the power to impeach, and the Senate the power to hold a trial to determine whether removal is appropriate. The House can impeach a judge with a simple majority vote. However, a judge may only be removed from office following a trial and a vote to convict by a two-thirds majority of the Senate.

Pelosi i not never in her life going to hold a hearing against a judge going after trump.
thanks for once again proving you have no clue what you are talking about.

then again facts don't care about your feelings.
Huh...then I retract the statement about the Pelosi and the house.
The senate would never remove him
 
He has not violated his own precedent. In fact Sidney Powell in a brief before the court praised Judge Sullivan for a precedent ruling of his in the Stevens case, where he appointed an independent a investigator to investigate prosecutorial misconduct, after the case had been dropped by the AG in light of that misconduct. So not only did Sidney Powell recognize that Judge Sullivan has the authority to appoint an amicus, she recognized that Sullivan has the authority to do much more than that.

Facts prove you wrong yet again. 20 times in this trial he has ruled against amicus filings that would have been in favor of flynn.
Now he is doing what the SCOTUS ruled he can't do just a few weeks ago on this topic before he asked for amicus filings against flynn.
this very much shows a conflict of interest.

So this point is disproved if you had bothered to read facts and stop ignoring them you would have already known this.

Judge Sullivan did not say that Flynn should be charged with treason. After viewing the statements of offenses by Mr. Flynn in the Special Counsel's sentencing memorandum, much of which is redacted, Judge Sullivan said that he would not and could not withhold from expressing his "disgust and disdain" for the criminal conduct of the defendant and then wondered aloud to the prosecutor if there's a point where conduct of that sort would be considered treasonous. Which was a rhetorical point really for expressing his level of outrage with Flynn's conduct and has he had already accepted the charges and the pleas and had entered them into the record and with that the trial phase of the case was over.

The judge called him a traitor to his country. that very much is accusing him of treason. That is also conduct unbecoming and grounds for dismissal or recusal.
as a judge you are to remain neutral.

The prosecution was over with. Pleas entered and accepted and a judgement rendered. Barr was too late.

Flynn has changed his plea to not guilty based on new evidence. THis is a constitutionally protected right of an individual.
again if you would actually pay attention to facts you would know this already.

There was no new or exculpatory evidence presented in the motion. Zero of the documents cited in it were new to the DOJ. Indeed almost all of those documents were dealt with by the prosecutors in Powell's Brady demand, at a time when Bill Barr was the AG, so even Sullivan knew of them.

Actually there is a ton of new information that the judge ignored because of his bias against the defendant. He ignored perjured testimony. The evidence is clear that the former prosecutor did not turn over all evidence to the defense
including evidence that the FBI said that flynn was innocent and didn't lie.

facts do not care about your feelings. The judge ignored all of this.

What lies did the prosecutor make? Can you cite any? Or is that just your own rant?

He has lied for months that he handed over all the evidence he didn't.

Since February 2018, Van Grack -- who now heads the DOJ's Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) unit -- has been obligated to comply with D.C. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan's standing order in the Flynn case to produce all evidence in the government’s possession “that is favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment.”

What Van Grack didn’t inform the court about – and didn’t provide to Flynn – was the newly unsealed January 4, 2017 "Closing Communication" from the FBI Washington Field Office, which recommended the FBI close its investigation of Flynn, as its exhaustive search through government databases “did not yield any information on which to predicate further investigative efforts."

He lied to the court. again if you wouldn't ignore facts you would know this already, but you will ignore this as well.



'I say so' is all you do. You ask others for proof for your false claims while never providing or citing any proof for any of them yourself. You have at best a elementary school kid's understanding of the law and the Constitution. So arguing with you often feels pretty much like arguing with a child.

facts state otherwise you not only didn't disprove anything all of your arguments have already been disproved by facts.
yes talking to a leftist is like a school kid. all they do is stamp their feet and yell and scream that they are right even when they
are proven wrong.

Made you should stop projecting yourself onto other people.
 
Huh...then I retract the statement about the Pelosi and the house.
The senate would never remove him

Pelosi will never impeach anyone going after trump.
You were wrong you have no clue what you are talking about.
 
what you are sharing with us is that a high ranking official who betrays his country is found acceptable in tRump world

only confirms what most of us have long believed

What Van Grack didn’t inform the court about – and didn’t provide to Flynn – was the newly unsealed January 4, 2017 "Closing Communication" from the FBI Washington Field Office, which recommended the FBI close its investigation of Flynn, as its exhaustive search through government databases “did not yield any information on which to predicate further investigative efforts."

The FBI says you are wrong that there was no evidence or information for further investigation. IE flynn did nothing wrong.

facts do not care about your feelings.
 
What Van Grack didn’t inform the court about – and didn’t provide to Flynn – was the newly unsealed January 4, 2017 "Closing Communication" from the FBI Washington Field Office, which recommended the FBI close its investigation of Flynn, as its exhaustive search through government databases “did not yield any information on which to predicate further investigative efforts."

The FBI says you are wrong that there was no evidence or information for further investigation. IE flynn did nothing wrong.

facts do not care about your feelings.

unfortunately for you, the facts prove you wrong

before closing the investigation into flynn, the FBI became aware of the tapes of flynn lying to the government about his discussions with the russian ambassador

that was sufficient basis to continue to proceed with the investigation which then led to flynn's multiple confessions and guilty pleas before the court

but in tRump world, as you are proving, such egregious actions against our nation are deemed acceptable
 
unfortunately for you, the facts prove you wrong

before closing the investigation into flynn, the FBI became aware of the tapes of flynn lying to the government about his discussions with the russian ambassador

that was sufficient basis to continue to proceed with the investigation which then led to flynn's multiple confessions and guilty pleas before the court

but in tRump world, as you are proving, such egregious actions against our nation are deemed acceptable

i just posted the facts.
you ignoring the facts is not my issue.
yes you are wrong the FBI says you are wrong that is all that matters.
facts do not care about your feelings.
 
Pelosi will never impeach anyone going after trump.
You were wrong you have no clue what you are talking about.

I have no issue admitting when I am wrong.
I'm still waiting you to answer about flynn lying.
Did he lie to the FBI or pleading guilty .
 
unfortunately for you, the facts prove you wrong

before closing the investigation into flynn, the FBI became aware of the tapes of flynn lying to the government about his discussions with the russian ambassador

that was sufficient basis to continue to proceed with the investigation which then led to flynn's multiple confessions and guilty pleas before the court

but in tRump world, as you are proving, such egregious actions against our nation are deemed acceptable

Yeah but even if all this didnt happen Flynn either lied to the fbi or he lied to the judge in pleading guilty.

Ludin thinks because there was no need for flynn to lie that that means lying in front of a judge shouldnt count.

Because that's where we are
 
I have no issue admitting when I am wrong.
I'm still waiting you to answer about flynn lying.
Did he lie to the FBI or pleading guilty .

He didn't lie i already answered the question.
The FBI said he didn't lie.

The FBI also threatened his son and his wife if he didn't sign the plea agreement.

That is something they do in China or Russia this is the US the last time i checked
and such threats are not only illegal but criminal here.

as i said facts do not care about your feelings.
 
He didn't lie i already answered the question.
The FBI said he didn't lie.

The FBI also threatened his son and his wife if he didn't sign the plea agreement.

That is something they do in China or Russia this is the US the last time i checked
and such threats are not only illegal but criminal here.

as i said facts do not care about your feelings.

But he did lie.

They didnt threaten his son. They told him he would be arrested because they were trying to kidnap a man.

Noticed you dodged the last one.
 
But he did lie.

They didnt threaten his son. They told him he would be arrested because they were trying to kidnap a man.

Noticed you dodged the last one.

NO he didn't lie the FBI said he didn't lie.

Something seems rotten in Flynn's case — and maybe others, too | TheHill

The Department of Justice’s letter to Sidney Powell, Flynn’s current lawyer who has persisted for months to pry exculpatory evidence from DOJ, indicates that further revelations may be forthcoming. For now, the disclosure has two salient aspects.

The first involves the factual basis for the Obama-era FBI’s investigation of Flynn — or, rather, the lack of a basis. Under federal law, a false statement made to investigators is actionable only if it is material to the matter under investigation. If there was no basis to believe Flynn had committed a crime, his counsel could have argued that any false statements allegedly made by Flynn when he was questioned in January 2017 were immaterial. Ergo, Ms. Powell contends that the withholding of this information violated the government’s duty to disclose exculpatory evidence.

. But the glimpses we get are intriguing. Exhibit 1 includes an unredacted snippet of an email between two of Flynn’s C&B lawyers; in it, Robert Kelner states to Stephen Anthony: “We have a lawyers’ unofficial understanding that they [i.e., the prosecutors] are unlikely to charge Junior [Flynn’s son] in light of the Cooperation Agreement” — Flynn’s commitment to provide information and testimony in other prosecutions.

Exhibit 2 is an email from Anthony to Kelner, among others, stating: “The only exception is the reference to Michael Jr. The government took pains not to give a promise to MTF [Gen. Flynn] regarding Michael Jr., so as to limit how much of a ‘benefit’ it would have to disclose as part of its Giglio disclosures to any defendant against whom MTF may one day testify.”

“Giglio” refers to the Supreme Court’s 1972 ruling in Giglio v. United States, which requires the government to disclose to the defense any promises made or benefits given in exchange for the testimony of a witness called by the prosecution.

These passages cited in Powell’s exhibits tend to corroborate the claim of an agreement not to prosecute Flynn’s son. It is fair, then, to infer that the threat of such a prosecution was indeed used to pressure him. The exhibits also strongly suggest that the prosecutors did not want an explicit acknowledgement of such a commitment — which would make sense only if they planned not to disclose the commitment in future cases in which they anticipated calling Flynn as a cooperating witness.

again you are proven wrong because facts do not care about your feelings.
 
Either he lied to the FBI or he didn't. He swore he did. You can't undo a lie.

The FBI lied when it pursued Flynn's testimony after the FBI concluded in its Operation Crossfire Razor investigation of Flynn that there was no reason to pursue Flynn. Either the FBI concluded there wasn't a reason to pursue Flynn or there was. Or, at least, higher ups in the FBI should prove (since they haven't) there was some reason to continue the investigation of Flynn with its Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
FBI Memo Exonerating Flynn Proves It’s Time To Investigate Comey’s Corrupt ‘Confidential Human Sources’
 
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The FBI lied when it pursued Flynn's testimony after the FBI concluded in its Operation Crossfire Razor investigation of Flynn that there was no reason to pursue Flynn. Either the FBI concluded there wasn't a reason to pursue Flynn or there was. Or, at least, higher ups in the FBI should prove (since they haven't) there was some reason to continue the investigation of Flynn with its Operation Hurricane.
FBI Memo Exonerating Flynn Proves It’s Time To Investigate Comey’s Corrupt ‘Confidential Human Sources’

LOL No reason to worry about the future NSA adviser having a chummy conversation with Kislyak about Trump removing sanctions as a reward for Putin's help in the election? I'm sorry but they needed to make every effort to keep him from access to our most guarded secrets. You are complicit with this kind of sedition and should be ashamed and Flynn needs some time in jail to think about his actions. I'm confident he will get that time just not while Trump is in office.
 
LOL No reason to worry about the future NSA adviser having a chummy conversation with Kislyak about Trump removing sanctions as a reward for Putin's help in the election? I'm sorry but they needed to make every effort to keep him from access to our most guarded secrets. You are complicit with this kind of sedition and should be ashamed and Flynn needs some time in jail to think about his actions. I'm confident he will get that time just not while Trump is in office.

Put Flynn on guard from the start...That's what the FBI did. Another perjury trap, if you will. Ask Flynn about his relations with the Russians when it wasn't politically feasible to have relations with Russians because of conspiracy theories involving Russians affecting American elections and conspiracy theories about incoming presidential administrations conspiring with these Russians to affect American elections.
 
LOL No reason to worry about the future NSA adviser having a chummy conversation with Kislyak about Trump removing sanctions as a reward for Putin's help in the election? I'm sorry but they needed to make every effort to keep him from access to our most guarded secrets. You are complicit with this kind of sedition and should be ashamed and Flynn needs some time in jail to think about his actions. I'm confident he will get that time just not while Trump is in office.

Is that what happened or what we think happened? Have you heard a recording of the conversation? I haven't.

I don't necessarily disagree with the appearance, but given the fact that there's not anything in terms of emipirical evidence cited in Congressional testimony by pretty much everyone who testified, I doubt it.
 
Is that what happened or what we think happened? Have you heard a recording of the conversation? I haven't.

I don't necessarily disagree with the appearance, but given the fact that there's not anything in terms of emipirical evidence cited in Congressional testimony by pretty much everyone who testified, I doubt it.

That is what happened and I know because Trump DID try to remove Russian sanctions as soon as he took office. It scared Congress so much that they passed a bill to strip Trump of the power to remove the sanctions and made him sign it. It is as obvious as the nose on your face. Flynn was relaying Trumps message and lied to protect Trump. That lie mad him vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians. None of that can magically change because Barr has been ordered to get Flynn off.

Trump White House Made Secret Efforts to Remove Russia Sanctions
 
Put Flynn on guard from the start...That's what the FBI did. Another perjury trap, if you will. Ask Flynn about his relations with the Russians when it wasn't politically feasible to have relations with Russians because of conspiracy theories involving Russians affecting American elections and conspiracy theories about incoming presidential administrations conspiring with these Russians to affect American elections.

The only conspiracy theories I know about Russia are the ones they made up to cover what they did. Like "Ukraine has the DNC servers and they hacked them not us". Now there is a CT. As far as perjury traps, the FBI made every effort to get Flynn to tell the truth including using the same words that he said to Kislyak in the question to jog his memory. Flynn was protecting Trump and he would not budge. Flynn must have forgotten that all Russian embassy calls are monitored, he really must be a moron as well as a traitor.
 
i just posted the facts.
you ignoring the facts is not my issue.
yes you are wrong the FBI says you are wrong that is all that matters.
facts do not care about your feelings.

the point is - whether you like it or not - the FBI investigation was still open and viable when the inquiry learned about flynn's lies to the government regarding his conversations with the russian ambassador
no way to spin those facts
 
for all intent and purposes everything i have heard and read by multiple different legal experts from watergate lawyers to modern ones sullivan is in a world of trouble.

hence the defense lawyer.

Yes...that's exactly the point I'm trying to draw out. Under normal circumstances it shouldn't be an issue that requires a lot but he knows he's way out over his skies here.
 
That is what happened and I know because Trump DID try to remove Russian sanctions as soon as he took office. It scared Congress so much that they passed a bill to strip Trump of the power to remove the sanctions and made him sign it. It is as obvious as the nose on your face. Flynn was relaying Trumps message and lied to protect Trump. That lie mad him vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians. None of that can magically change because Barr has been ordered to get Flynn off.

Trump White House Made Secret Efforts to Remove Russia Sanctions

As I asked, do you have a recording of the conversation? Is there empirical evidence of a quid pro quo? It was testified under oath before Congress that there was none.

I quote the article:

"We've been reviewing all the sanctions—and this is not exclusive to Russia," a senior White House official told Yahoo News. "All the sanctions regimes have mechanisms built in to alleviate them." they said, adding they hoped "the Russians would take advantage of that" by returning Crimea to Ukraine.

When they didn't cooperate with Crimea, we kept the sanctions. When Russia didn't cooperate in Syria we sent them a message. Sometimes new blood gets things moving in a more positive direction, but the leopard doesn't change his spots...(e.g. Russia, China, NK, Iran, etc.).

Look, I honestly think there was genuine suspicion over the meetings, and Obama was likely...hell no..he was pissed that the sanctions he worked for might be negotiated away by a man he'd fired for insubordination. They certainly had every reason to look at Flynn's interactions with Kislyak. The threat of prosecuting Flynn under the Logan Act spooked him into a plea bargain even if such conversations are normal during a transition and really didn't amount to anything. He did admit to lying, but since his statements to the agents weren't germane to a violation of even the spirit of the Logan Act or collusion (once again, there was not empirical evidence of collusion regarding election interference or money as testified under oath in front of Congress by every person involved), then there really wasn't a basis for the original charges. That's the angle Barr is taking.

If you are questioning Barr's motives, ask yourself a question: What does Barr gain from being Trump's lap dog? Russian whores and golden showers? A lifetime membership at Mar-a-Lago? C'mon! The dude is a career bureaucrat.

Quite frankly, in an election year, it would make more sense for Flynn to accept his sentence, serve it until after the election, and then Trump issue a pardon. However, I think Barr is not wanting to lay every card on the table, as there are still investigations going on to determine if there was a more sinister plan in place. I hope the Durham report will be between a Wendy's single and a big nothing burger, but there's quite a bit of smoke around the behavior of the prosecution, especially as it relates to the recent revelation of the motives of interviewing Flynn. Honestly, I don't know, but Barr has been around the swamp a long time and he hasn't stayed there by being stupid.

In the meantime :coffeepap
 
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Doesn't matter where you give a deposition. You will still have the same legal exposure as if you were in a courtroom. And where is the ruling on that deposition going to come from? A court.

Lol...you continue to miss it. If he is in the right then he doesn't need to make this move and hire this lawyer. The only reason why he would do so is that he suspects he might actually be in legal trouble. This isn't about his decision anymore, it's about him. In other words, the motion to drop charges is basically locked in as going through now and this judge is now just trying to save his own ass.
 
As I asked, do you have a recording of the conversation? Is there empirical evidence of a quid pro quo? It was testified under oath before Congress that there was none.

I quote the article:



When they didn't cooperate with Crimea, we kept the sanctions. When Russia didn't cooperate in Syria we sent them a message. Sometimes new blood gets things moving in a more positive direction, but the leopard doesn't change his spots...(e.g. Russia, China, NK, Iran, etc.).

Look, I honestly think there was genuine suspicion over the meetings, and Obama was likely...hell no..he was pissed that the sanctions he worked for might be negotiated away by a man he'd fired for insubordination. They certainly had every reason to look at Flynn's interactions with Kislyak. The threat of prosecuting Flynn under the Logan Act spooked him into a plea bargain even if such conversations are normal during a transition and really didn't amount to anything. He did admit to lying, but since his statements to the agents weren't germane to a violation of even the spirit of the Logan Act or collusion (once again, there was not empirical evidence of collusion regarding election interference or money as testified under oath in front of Congress by every person involved), then there really wasn't a basis for the original charges. That's the angle Barr is taking.

If you are questioning Barr's motives, ask yourself a question: What does Barr gain from being Trump's lap dog? Russian whores and golden showers? A lifetime membership at Mar-a-Lago? C'mon! The dude is a career bureaucrat.

Quite frankly, in an election year, it would make more sense for Flynn to accept his sentence, serve it until after the election, and then Trump issue a pardon. However, I think Barr is not wanting to lay every card on the table, as there are still investigations going on to determine if there was a more sinister plan in place. I hope the Durham report will be between a Wendy's single and a big nothing burger, but there's quite a bit of smoke around the behavior of the prosecution, especially as it relates to the recent revelation of the motives of interviewing Flynn. Honestly, I don't know, but Barr has been around the swamp a long time and he hasn't stayed there by being stupid.

In the meantime :coffeepap

LOL We kept the sanctions because Congress passed a bill to stop Trump from doing it. That is the entire reason. I'm tired of this sham you guys put on so all I will say is B**L S**T. Stop acting like there is anything approaching normalcy in Trumps behavior towards Putin and that you are not a traitor yourself for giving excuses for him. Just admit that Trump tried to remove sanctions as pay back but Congress stopped him in his tracks. That is the reality. It's not like there are not plenty more examples of Trump "paying back" Putin. When you owe a debt to a thug like Putin it is not healthy to ignore it. Trump is smart enough to know that. Barr not so much....He's looking at jail time 12 months from now and I don't see how he can get out of it.
Also This "get out of jail free card" for Flynn is because he lied to the FBI to protect Trump and nothing done to protect Trump can be criminal according to Barr. ..:lol:
 
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