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Unemployment surged to 14.7% in April, highest since Great Depression, as coronavirus triggered 20.5

Once again, you can't seem to get those HTML tags right. It's starting to look like you just don't want me to respond, and are doing your best to seem like you're responding, while making sure there's less of a chance I'll answer you. I wonder why that could be...

He isn't smart enough to be doing it on purpose, but isn't smart enough to learn how to properly quote someone. My new policy is to refuse to respond to any of his posts that are bypassing notification... and once again, he's not smart enough to comprehend what i'm saying when i explain it. Good luck!
 
I think it would take a few days for the virus to incubate.

Not only that but people are starting to think if they have the antibodies they can't get it
well from reading some news articles there is a guy up around Buffalo NY that had it several months ago and now has it again
they say he got over it and was alright went back to work and came down with it again
one other thing I wonder can this stuff get into A/C systems and pass it that way
have a nice day
 
He isn't smart enough to be doing it on purpose, but isn't smart enough to learn how to properly quote someone. My new policy is to refuse to respond to any of his posts that are bypassing notification... and once again, he's not smart enough to comprehend what i'm saying when i explain it. Good luck!

Baiting, trolling, and name calling is what you do best

Trump's Methodical Destruction of Obama's Legacy | RealClearPolitics
5/12/2020 Cases Deaths

United States 1404847 83333 5.9%

Spain 271095 27104 10.0%

Italy 222104 31103 14.0%

England 229705 33186 14.4%

France 140227 26991 19.2%

Netherlands 43211 5562 12.9%

Canada 71486 5209 7.3%

Pre Pandemic results

GDP dollars and GDP dollar growth, 487 billion growth is what Trump inherited, what was it in 2017-2018-2019?

DP and Dollar change
2008 14712.8
2009 14448.9
2010 14992.1
2011 15,542.6 +804.4
2012 16197.0 +562.4
2013 16784.9 +587.9
2014 17527.3 +652.4
2015 18224.8 +697.5
2016 18715.0 +487.2
2017 19519.4 +804.4
2018 20,580.2 +1060.8
2019 21427.1 +846.9


Then there is this which Trump inherited and the comparison through February 2020. Anyone that claims the GDP growth now is similar to what Obama had is the true hack and totally has no credibility. GDP components are
The four components of gross domestic product are personal consumption, business investment, government spending, and net exports. .

Unemployment Rate 4.7% January 2017 vs. 3.6% February 2020-U-3

Employed 152.2 million January 2017 to 157.9 million today so 6 million job growth from 2008 to 2017(146 million to 152 million) is celebrated but 6.7 million growth I the last three years isn't!! LOL

U-6 in January 2017 9.3% vs 6.9% February 2020? Wow!! 2.4% better U-6 obviously meaningless to you

Part time for economic reasons, 5.7 million January 2017 vs. 4.2 million February 2020? Looks to me that incredible job growth you claim was boosted by part time jobs. Part time for economic reason jobs when the recession started 4.8 million, 5.7 million when Obama left office

African American unemployment 8.0% vs. 6.0% February 2020?
 
He isn't smart enough to be doing it on purpose, but isn't smart enough to learn how to properly quote someone. My new policy is to refuse to respond to any of his posts that are bypassing notification... and once again, he's not smart enough to comprehend what i'm saying when i explain it. Good luck!

Well...I'm glad to hear that apparently I'm not the only one he does it to.
 
Baiting, trolling, and name calling is what you do best

After more than 10 years and 94k posts, you'd think you would have figured out how to properly post and quote someone. But no... you're not capable of learning.
 
After more than 10 years and 94k posts, you'd think you would have figured out how to properly post and quote someone. But no... you're not capable of learning.

I have figured out that you have no understanding of context in anything you post and that your politics are typical of individuals in Chicago. Suggest you tell a few of your fellow liberals the same thing. How I use the quote function is irrelevant and just a diversion from the reality that the data in context makes you look foolish and wrong!!
 
How I use the quote function is irrelevant and just a diversion from the reality that the data in context makes you look foolish and wrong!!

How you communicate is certainly not irrelevant. Everyone knows you are confused with data, arithmetic, terminology, analysis, etc.... Your post history is a testament to a severe knowledge deficiency. It's why you are still confused by inflation, what it means, and how it's measured. Therefore, you don't have any business in these discussions, as you're not nearly informed enough to construct argument that are both literate and based on sound reasoning.
 
How you communicate is certainly not irrelevant. Everyone knows you are confused with data, arithmetic, terminology, analysis, etc.... Your post history is a testament to a severe knowledge deficiency. It's why you are still confused by inflation, what it means, and how it's measured. Therefore, you don't have any business in these discussions, as you're not nearly informed enough to construct argument that are both literate and based on sound reasoning.

How I communicate doesn't change the reality of WHAT I communicate and you ignore. Your arrogance makes you believe you speak for everyone but you speak for yourself and what other liberals think of me is irrelevant, I sleep well at night

You seem to be confused by context and tie everything to inflation, deficits are yearly numbers, personal expenses are yearly numbers and inflation impacts wages as well making wages higher but that never resonates with you. You don't understand the private sector at all as you clearly show in every post, incentive doesn't resonate with you nor does the reality of liberalism creating multi millionaire public servants who administer programs that imprison the American people all in the name of compassion.

Employment and unemployment are reported by various reports and you use the U-3 to tout the Obama successes, when the reality is the U-3 includes the under employed who wouldn't be under employed in a strong economy

You tout GDP percentage change ignoring the components of GDP and percentage each component adds to GDP totally ignoring the dollar growth in those components. context matters and I will keep pointing it out regardless of how I post it or if I use the wrong quote function

You telling me where I should be makes me laugh as you don't have the credibility to tell anyone else where they should be either.
 
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How I communicate doesn't change the reality of WHAT I communicate

How you communicate is a reflection of what you convey. Severe knowledge deficiencies have lead you down the path of embracing anti-intellectualism.

Your arrogance makes you believe you speak for everyone

I speak only for myself. You are the one who believes he speaks for the American people, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, etc.... And it's rather obvious you don't have a formal education that pertains to data science, nor do you have formal professional training. Therefore, when you make moronic arguments that are based on ignorance (ignoring inflation or deficits), it speaks to the lack of familiarity and quality of your posts.

You seem to be confused by context and tie everything to inflation, deficits are yearly numbers, personal expenses are yearly numbers and inflation impacts wages as well making wages higher but that never resonates with you.

More ignorance. We cannot analyze economic growth unless we strip away all of the noise, e.g. inflation and population growth. From here, we can begin to understand economic strength or weakness, and diverge into deeper analysis using additional data sets.

You don't understand the private sector at all

This is a lie. You don't represent the private sector, and you are unable to clearly and concisely communicate your ideas. It's all the same recycled garbage where you cherry pick data and ignore everything else.

You telling me where I should be makes me laugh as you don't have the credibility to tell anyone else where they should be either.

Your posts are weak tribal nonsense. The fact of the matter is, you are not nearly informed enough to be having these types of discussions.
 
How you communicate is a reflection of what you convey. Severe knowledge deficiencies have lead you down the path of embracing anti-intellectualism.



I speak only for myself. You are the one who believes he speaks for the American people, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, etc.... And it's rather obvious you don't have a formal education that pertains to data science, nor do you have formal professional training. Therefore, when you make moronic arguments that are based on ignorance (ignoring inflation or deficits), it speaks to the lack of familiarity and quality of your posts.



More ignorance. We cannot analyze economic growth unless we strip away all of the noise, e.g. inflation and population growth. From here, we can begin to understand economic strength or weakness, and diverge into deeper analysis using additional data sets.



This is a lie. You don't represent the private sector, and you are unable to clearly and concisely communicate your ideas. It's all the same recycled garbage where you cherry pick data and ignore everything else.



Your posts are weak tribal nonsense. The fact of the matter is, you are not nearly informed enough to be having these types of discussions.

Your line graphs are pretty my spreadsheets are numbers that represent people, apparently people who voted in the elections during the Obama term and people who turned the House over to Republicans in 10-12-14-16 and the senate in 14-16. Then there were fewer people turning out in 2012 than 2008 to vote for Obama. Someone with the record you claim wouldn't have generated such poor results

The rest of your post is pure partisan bull**** and personal attacks which is about the only thing you are good at. I seem to be a lot better informed than you are as the results show with context. Still over 52% of the American people support the job Trump has done with the economy even during a pandemic. Results prior were ignored as you focused on Trends, official federal data that doesn't resonate with actual people

No, you don't know the private sector as your posts show. You know how to post line and bar graphs without context. The Private sector runs this country and benefits the American people, the public sector benefits the bureaucrats and imprisons people by creating dependence. Book smart street stupid people are in the public sector looking at data and ignoring context, you fit in quite well especially with arrogance
 
I seem to be a lot better informed than you are as the results show with context.

You're not even comfortable using the English language as the comment above only confirms... let alone are you informed regarding these topics. As stated, you still are confused when it comes to inflation, and do not see the value in using statistical analysis. That makes you ignorant.

Still over 52% of the American people support the job Trump

Sure about that? :lol:

As the economic number continue to edge downward, Trump's approval rating on the economy will follow. Give the populace time to digest 14% unemployment and 40 million lost jobs. The unemployment rate for May will be above 20%.

Results prior were ignored
,

Nonsense. They were simply mediocre results, as the economy showed no real improvement.

official federal data that doesn't resonate with actual people

That's your way of saying you and your fellow Trump bots are not intelligent enough to understand basic concepts in statistics, economics, and public finance.
 
You're not even comfortable using the English language as the comment above only confirms... let alone are you informed regarding these topics. As stated, you still are confused when it comes to inflation, and do not see the value in using statistical analysis. That makes you ignorant.



Sure about that? :lol:

As the economic number continue to edge downward, Trump's approval rating on the economy will follow. Give the populace time to digest 14% unemployment and 40 million lost jobs. The unemployment rate for May will be above 20%.

,

Nonsense. They were simply mediocre results, as the economy showed no real improvement.



That's your way of saying you and your fellow Trump bots are not intelligent enough to understand basic concepts in statistics, economics, and public finance.

Get some new material, it is going to be a liberal bloodbath in November, the California and Wisconsin special elections are indications of things to come. Both candidates are just like you totally ignorant of the official data and always participating in the politics of personal destruction
 
Yes, that is true, it is a legal decision that made abortion illegal, do you have a point?

Yes, I do have a point. My point was to correct an inaccuracy in what you wrote. However, what you write here also is inaccurate, as Roe v. Wade did not make abortion illegal, but quite the reverse.

Since you are talking history here how about research the conditions in this country during the Great Depression and compare that to the conditions today, conditions today that the left wants to compare to the Great Depression. we have laws on the books protecting the American workers

No need for me to research it; it's one of my favorite periods to study thanks to my connection to the Holocaust and the need to understand what was going on in the world to understand the lead-up to European fascism.

Your point is not clear, though. Why are you raising this subject? As far as I can tell, folks on your side have been pressuring to walk back, as far as possible, the protections that arose at the end of the Gilded Age (I think there's an argument to be had that the 1920s were the final chapter in the Gilded Age, with the Depression being the inevitable result of the economics that had bled the lower classes for so long).

It's not just worker protections that are at issue (though those are at issue)--it's the whole approach to economics and society in general. So it's not clear why you're bringing up worker protections just as such.

Not even sure what to say to this other than the reality that the left and liberalism have created dependence due to spending in the name of compassion and out of that compassion has come multi millionaire public servants with career jobs due to the reality that people will never bite the hand that feeds them

1. I'm sure you're not sure what to say about it--but I am, and I've been saying it for a while. Basing a society on the notion that individual freedoms are the primary and only bedrock is foolish--as foolish, I would grant you, as doing away with legally protected rights altogether. We have to recognize that the principles on which society used to be based do not correspond well with reality any longer, and hence we must change, or experience more and more pain as time goes on.

2. It isn't leftist policies that have created this situation--it's plain ol' people using their genitals. Take the house example I used (your house loses value because your neighbor is a slob). What brings that about is just you and your neighbor living in close proximity, and when you live in that kind of proximity, of course what each of you does affects the other, and in some cases, unduly. To say that your neighbor has the right to shower their yard in used diapers is simply foolish, because, through no fault or action of your own, suddenly the value of your investment plummets (not to mention that you and others might pick up some kind of nasty disease). But to impose a law that no longer permits your neighbor to strew dirty diapers in their yard is to restrict their freedom. If everyone lived ten miles away from everyone else, it wouldn't matter so much--but there are too many people now for that to be viable.

Since you have done all that on your own why are you blaming the President for something he has no authority to do.

He has authority to do all of that, but I do not--I cannot direct the CDC, for example. Nor will any of the governors of the fifty states take my call (probably, anyway)--but they should take the call of the President.
 
Get some new material, it is going to be a liberal bloodbath in November, the California and Wisconsin special elections are indications of things to come. Both candidates are just like you totally ignorant of the official data and always participating in the politics of personal destruction

I wouldn't use those as examples at all, since the California special election was of a candidate who resigned after a sex scandal and the Wisconsin seat was the replacement of a GOP seat in a GOP district. I will say that if Trump is able to work on policy that helps reverse the downturn, then that would be a good reason to have faith in his ability to sail a ship through troubled waters. It's these kind of moments that are a real test of what leaders can do (or not).
 
Yes, I do have a point. My point was to correct an inaccuracy in what you wrote. However, what you write here also is inaccurate, as Roe v. Wade did not make abortion illegal, but quite the reverse.



No need for me to research it; it's one of my favorite periods to study thanks to my connection to the Holocaust and the need to understand what was going on in the world to understand the lead-up to European fascism.

Your point is not clear, though. Why are you raising this subject? As far as I can tell, folks on your side have been pressuring to walk back, as far as possible, the protections that arose at the end of the Gilded Age (I think there's an argument to be had that the 1920s were the final chapter in the Gilded Age, with the Depression being the inevitable result of the economics that had bled the lower classes for so long).

It's not just worker protections that are at issue (though those are at issue)--it's the whole approach to economics and society in general. So it's not clear why you're bringing up worker protections just as such.



1. I'm sure you're not sure what to say about it--but I am, and I've been saying it for a while. Basing a society on the notion that individual freedoms are the primary and only bedrock is foolish--as foolish, I would grant you, as doing away with legally protected rights altogether. We have to recognize that the principles on which society used to be based do not correspond well with reality any longer, and hence we must change, or experience more and more pain as time goes on.

2. It isn't leftist policies that have created this situation--it's plain ol' people using their genitals. Take the house example I used (your house loses value because your neighbor is a slob). What brings that about is just you and your neighbor living in close proximity, and when you live in that kind of proximity, of course what each of you does affects the other, and in some cases, unduly. To say that your neighbor has the right to shower their yard in used diapers is simply foolish, because, through no fault or action of your own, suddenly the value of your investment plummets (not to mention that you and others might pick up some kind of nasty disease). But to impose a law that no longer permits your neighbor to strew dirty diapers in their yard is to restrict their freedom. If everyone lived ten miles away from everyone else, it wouldn't matter so much--but there are too many people now for that to be viable.



He has authority to do all of that, but I do not--I cannot direct the CDC, for example. Nor will any of the governors of the fifty states take my call (probably, anyway)--but they should take the call of the President.

For your information results matter and I will take the Trump results prior to the pandemic and the recovery from the pandemic giving him my vote in November. Biden as a multi millionaire public servant is unqualified for the office as this is a private sector economy not a public sector one'

He had the authority to do what? direct the CDC during Impeachment that you would have jumped on as an attempt to divert from those Impeachment hearings and allegations
 
I wouldn't use those as examples at all, since the California special election was of a candidate who resigned after a sex scandal and the Wisconsin seat was the replacement of a GOP seat in a GOP district. I will say that if Trump is able to work on policy that helps reverse the downturn, then that would be a good reason to have faith in his ability to sail a ship through troubled waters. It's these kind of moments that are a real test of what leaders can do (or not).

California would vote for anyone with a D, the fact that he got over 70% of the north LA vote so you believe what you want to believe. I will be voting for Trump in November because of the pre pandemic results and post pandemic recovery
 
For your information results matter and I will take the Trump results prior to the pandemic and the recovery from the pandemic giving him my vote in November. Biden as a multi millionaire public servant is unqualified for the office as this is a private sector economy not a public sector one

Not sure what any of that has to do with the subject under discussion. I agree that Trump deserves some credit for a good economy pre-pandemic, and actually do not think he deserves quite as much blame as some people want to lay on him for present circumstances. However, some of his supporters (you included, apparently) have wanted to take a view that Trump deserves all of the credit for the economy he in fact inherited, and he has the power and authority to do whatever he wants...but now that things have taken a downturn, suddenly it's not his fault (or, at least as often, it's somehow Obama's fault, or Clinton's fault, or etc). The view that Trump is entirely to be credited with the good economy before the pandemic is unreasonable (just as unreasonable as the contrary view that he deserves no credit), and the view that he deserves none of the blame for the current downturn while still deserving all the credit for the good economy pre-pandemic is unreasonable because it's inconsistent.

He had the authority to do what?

Everything that I listed in my previous post, which you quoted.


direct the CDC during Impeachment that you would have jumped on as an attempt to divert from those Impeachment hearings and allegations

I don't think so--did Trump sit in a hole and do nothing during the impeachment hearings and proceedings? Presumably he continued issuing directives to various agencies in the executive branch, so I'm not sure why this one would have been viewed as a distraction.
 
California would vote for anyone with a D, the fact that he got over 70% of the north LA vote so you believe what you want to believe. I will be voting for Trump in November because of the pre pandemic results and post pandemic recovery

Not true at all. Katie Hill had flipped that seat from a GOP representative; that district was GOP for a long time. It's another scenario where a typically GOP district voted accordingly. Again, it's not about "believing what you want to believe" but just seeing the simple facts. I don't think anyone is trying to convince you to vote for anyone; you could write in Big Bird if that's where your convictions lie.
 
Unemployment surged to 14.7% in April, highest since Great Depression, as coronavirus triggered 20.5 million job losses | Fox Business



Let's see the joy from liberals today on the misery that Americans are feeling as a result of the Virus. It will be blame day over 3 years and counting as the left will completely ignore the economic data prior to the pandemic and blame Trump for these numbers created by the virus. Have fun liberals showing just how compassionate the liberal ideology is when it comes to actual people. Just another opportunity for liberalism to create dependence and grow power
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Hmmm...let’s see...who’s in change of the Federal Government?
 
Not only that but people are starting to think if they have the antibodies they can't get it
well from reading some news articles there is a guy up around Buffalo NY that had it several months ago and now has it again
they say he got over it and was alright went back to work and came down with it again

Please do not raise embarrassing points - Mr. Trump doesn't like it.

one other thing I wonder can this stuff get into A/C systems and pass it that way

Under certain circumstances, yes it can. However the time span available is quite short and the dispersal factor is quite high.
 
How you communicate is certainly not irrelevant. Everyone knows you are confused with data, arithmetic, terminology, analysis, etc.... Your post history is a testament to a severe knowledge deficiency. It's why you are still confused by inflation, what it means, and how it's measured. Therefore, you don't have any business in these discussions, as you're not nearly informed enough to construct argument that are both literate and based on sound reasoning.

Are you telling me that simply doing C&P from The Current Response And Position Bulletin which is put out by The Federal Legal And Civil Knowledge Bureau isn't sufficient and that you actually have to have some actual understanding of whatever you post?

Whoodathunkit?
 
Yes, I do have a point. My point was to correct an inaccuracy in what you wrote. However, what you write here also is inaccurate, as Roe v. Wade did not make abortion illegal, but quite the reverse.

Picky, picky, picky.

And if you REALLY want to get picky, Roe v. Wade didn't make abortions legal either. What it did do was to determine that the laws which made it illegal were unconstitutional and hence null and void from that point onward.

. . .

Your point is not clear, though. Why are you raising this subject? As far as I can tell, folks on your side have been pressuring to walk back, as far as possible, the protections that arose at the end of the Gilded Age (I think there's an argument to be had that the 1920s were the final chapter in the Gilded Age, with the Depression being the inevitable result of the economics that had bled the lower classes for so long).

The 1920s didn't end "The Gilded Age" because the 1950s saw it resurrected due to the profits and savings accumulated during WWII. That accumulation pretty much ran out by the middle of the 1970s (at the same time as the economies of America's competitors finished rebuilding from their near destruction during WWII and the US no longer had no other team on the playing field).

. . .

1. I'm sure you're not sure what to say about it--but I am, and I've been saying it for a while. Basing a society on the notion that individual freedoms are the primary and only bedrock is foolish--as foolish, I would grant you, as doing away with legally protected rights altogether. We have to recognize that the principles on which society used to be based do not correspond well with reality any longer, and hence we must change, or experience more and more pain as time goes on.

2. It isn't leftist policies that have created this situation--it's plain ol' people using their genitals. Take the house example I used (your house loses value because your neighbor is a slob). What brings that about is just you and your neighbor living in close proximity, and when you live in that kind of proximity, of course what each of you does affects the other, and in some cases, unduly. To say that your neighbor has the right to shower their yard in used diapers is simply foolish, because, through no fault or action of your own, suddenly the value of your investment plummets (not to mention that you and others might pick up some kind of nasty disease). But to impose a law that no longer permits your neighbor to strew dirty diapers in their yard is to restrict their freedom. If everyone lived ten miles away from everyone else, it wouldn't matter so much--but there are too many people now for that to be viable.

No patriotic, right-thinking, patriotic, hard working, patriotic, honest, patriotic, real, patriotic, true, patriotic, conservative, patriotic, Christian, patriotic, White, patriotic, American, patriotic, patriot will ever agree with either of those points (unless, of course, it is THEIR ox that is being gored).

He has authority to do all of that, but I do not--I cannot direct the CDC, for example. Nor will any of the governors of the fifty states take my call (probably, anyway)--but they should take the call of the President.

As before, picky, picky, picky.
 
Unemployment surged to 14.7% in April, highest since Great Depression, as coronavirus triggered 20.5 million job losses | Fox Business



Let's see the joy from liberals today on the misery that Americans are feeling as a result of the Virus. It will be blame day over 3 years and counting as the left will completely ignore the economic data prior to the pandemic and blame Trump for these numbers created by the virus. Have fun liberals showing just how compassionate the liberal ideology is when it comes to actual people. Just another opportunity for liberalism to create dependence and grow power
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This is a nonsense posting as the reason for the high unemployment number is the Federal Government choosing to close down the businesses in America. the closure has nothing to do with economic conditions. Scare tactics and liberals who want failure of something so they can win an election.
 
Hmmm...let’s see...who’s in change of the Federal Government?

Now THAT is a VERY good question.

The US federal government currently reminds me of the old

When in trouble or in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout.
For when all is said and done,
There's lots of blame for everyone.
 
This is a nonsense posting as the reason for the high unemployment number is the Federal Government choosing to close down the businesses in America.

Since Mr. Trump is in charge of the administration of the United States of America, wouldn't that mean that the current high unemployment number is the personal responsibility of Mr. Trump (who could have chosen NOT to "close down the businesses in America)?

the closure has nothing to do with economic conditions.

Not quite. While the economic conditions did not cause the closure, the closure DID cause the economic conditions.

So, once again since Mr. Trump is in charge of the administration of the United States of America, wouldn't that mean that the current economic conditions are the personal responsibility of Mr. Trump (who could have chosen NOT to "close down the businesses in America)?

Scare tactics and liberals who want failure of something so they can win an election.

Quite right, now go and tell that to the families of the

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85,333 Americans who have died due to COVID-19.
 
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