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Trump says Republicans would never be elected again if it was easier to vote

The Guardian is MSM it is a British paper that was founded 200 years ago.

Come on now, the victim class needs something to look forward to. Think about it, for many their most joyous moments come from being on the same side as a racist troll sowing hatred.
 
Funny isn't it. If capitalism is so great how come it needs a socialist bailout every ten years?

You are right. It has been proven over and over and over again that the greatest threats to capitalism are capitalists.

1) FDR and Churchill both introduced social programs into their respective governments because capitalism was unregulated and failed in 1929. With all of Europe turning to communism and fascism, both leaders introduced socialism to try to reignite confidence in the capitalist/democratic system. As a part of the New Deal, Americans saw the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, which separated banks that dealt in loans to the average American and investment banks that played with the powerful's money. Both became regulated. The New Deal also provided a safety net for the average American in case capitalism threw up all over itself again.

2) From at least the 1970s, Big Business and banks used empowered lobbyists in Washington to court politicians so that they could dismantle Glass-Steagall. Free market Republicans drove this bus and the Reagan Revolution pushed the theme into mainstream politics. But it was Clinton that signed the two key pieces of legislation that gave them what they wanted. Clinton thought it was unfair that Republicans were getting so much of the donation money from Big Business so he got into bed with free market Republicans. With companies like Enron, and so many others, actually assisting with the writing, Senators like Phil Gramm handed Clinton the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000. Armed with the idea that Big Business and the banks were responsible and could regulate themselves, he signed both with enthusiasm and tossed Glass-Steagall into the trash bin of history. This allowed for the creation of monster conglomerates like CitiGroup, which immediately led the way towards smashing the two different types of banks into one...again. Two years later the Enron scandal broke and it declared bankruptcy. Within years of this, CitiGroup was already showing signs of disaster. Without regulation, the idiots **** all over themselves...again. I don't want to digress here, but Bush and Obama made matters worse, largely, because they didn't know any better. Even Clinton admitted that he made a mistake. Obama summarized beautifully what had happened in a campaign speech, but then he would go on to appoint Clinton's deregulation team to his own economic squad to "fix" what they broke in the first place. Obama squandered a year expanding Bush's bailouts, which actually rewarded the guilty, but only temporarily introduced harsher regulation than what had existed under Glass-Steagall. By the time he wanted to do something for homeowners and small businesses, because banks and corporations did not trickle down, it was too late. The banks were back on top and there was no safety net. When Obama, McCain, and Elizabeth Warren began talking about reintroducing Glass-Steagall type legislation, the lobbyists immediately shifted campaign donation funds over to the Republicans. They showed him (and us) who was really in charge of this country. Obama retreated. Greed matters in capitalism. Left unregulated, greed will destroy it.

3) And now? Not only did 91 corporations of the Fortune 500 pay 0% taxes in 2018 on almost a trillion dollars (Tax Cut and Jobs Act of 2017), but corporations are being allowed to pressure Washington into giving them bail outs too. Free from paying taxes, and taking ours. "Too big to fail" rears its ugly head...again...as corporations fire Americans from their jobs while promoting themselves as benevolent for being paid to create some medical items that they are going to write off or be financially rewarded for through contract and/or further tax relief. In the meantime, government has significantly increased spending, significantly increased debt and deficit, and is now borrowing $2 trillion dollars to make a tiny dent in the average American's pain, and to accommodate Big Business bail-outs.

These aren't faceless and nameless corporations. These are wealthy billionaires pulling the strings and paying lobbyists to bend Senators and Presidents too their will in order to increase the revenue of upper echelon investors. From here, they manipulate the simple minded to act as a gargoyle against the left and whoever else is just "jealous" of their "hard-earned" money. "Socialism is for the rich, while capitalism is left for the rest of us."

Free market, my ass.
 
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Trump says Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote | US news | The Guardian



I like the way he calls them 'clawbacks' - like he knows the GOP has taken away the right or opportunity to vote and Dems are trying to restore these. How come his people are still making excuses for voter suppression when we keep hearing the real reason from the horse's mouth? Republicans don't want people to vote.

It is a well known fact that Democrats pander for votes by scraping the bottom of the barrel, promising them things that even Democrats don't deliver on.
 
It is a well known fact that Democrats pander for votes by scraping the bottom of the barrel, promising them things that even Democrats don't deliver on.

Umm, yeah get back to us when Mexico pays for the non-existent wall.

But at least the Dems want everyone to vote. It's a well-known fact now republicans wish to prevent minorities, millennials and democrats from voting at all. They've told us many times already. Trump's blatant confession is just the latest.
 
Restoring voting rights to who, Illegals?? Voting is a right for all Americans that should be taken seriously, most states now have early voting giving people every opportunity to exercise that right. Seems rather easy to vote now but that isn't good enough for you, is it? You want illegals to be able to cast ballots by taking away the security required to cast a ballot in this country.

No I do not. Show us how many illegals vote, vs how many legit voters have been struck off the rolls. Give us the empirical data to demonstrate it's a reasonable tradeoff.
 
No I do not. Show us how many illegals vote, vs how many legit voters have been struck off the rolls. Give us the empirical data to demonstrate it's a reasonable tradeoff.

Since states control the election process there is no way of showing you what you want to see and nothing will ever change your mind. The fact remains, California gave Hillary a 4 million plus win, the largest election victory in history for any state with immigration being the major issue. She won overwhelmingly in the major metropolitan areas with large Hispanic and illegal immigrates. Immigrants are allowed to get licenses in California and that is proof of citizenship. You cannot prove that illegals didn't vote but the speculation is quite clear except to you.

I will be voting for Trump in November as there isn't a viable alternative
 
Trump says Republicans would ‘never’ be elected again if it was easier to vote | US news | The Guardian



I like the way he calls them 'clawbacks' - like he knows the GOP has taken away the right or opportunity to vote and Dems are trying to restore these. How come his people are still making excuses for voter suppression when we keep hearing the real reason from the horse's mouth? Republicans don't want people to vote.
Its nice of them to admit it. Its scary to me that 40% of the country is fine with purposefully implementing rules that mean less people vote just for political purposes. I shouldnt be surprised though. These people think that trump is a good representative for their beliefs and morals. Bless them.

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Umm, yeah get back to us when Mexico pays for the non-existent wall.

But at least the Dems want everyone to vote. It's a well-known fact now republicans wish to prevent minorities, millennials and democrats from voting at all. They've told us many times already. Trump's blatant confession is just the latest.

Republicans want everyone to vote to, everyone that is eligible to vote. If Democrats can pander for votes why can't Republicans?
 
And now? Not only did 91 corporations of the Fortune 500 pay 0% taxes in 2018 on almost a trillion dollars (Tax Cut and Jobs Act of 2017), but corporations are being allowed to pressure Washington into giving them bail outs too. Free from paying taxes, and taking ours. "Too big to fail" rears its ugly head...again...as corporations fire Americans from their jobs while promoting themselves as benevolent for being paid to create some medical items that they are going to write off or be financially rewarded for through contract and/or further tax relief. In the meantime, government has significantly increased spending, significantly increased debt and deficit, and is now borrowing $2 trillion dollars to make a tiny dent in the average American's pain, and to accommodate Big Business bail-outs.

These aren't faceless and nameless corporations. These are wealthy billionaires pulling the strings and paying lobbyists to bend Senators and Presidents too their will in order to increase the revenue of upper echelon investors.

So in reality it's all government failure. If politicians are selling political favors to the rich, then it's a failure of government, not capitalism.

but corporations are being allowed to pressure Washington into giving them bail outs too

Wtf does this dumb crap mean? Who is "allowing" corporations to "pressure" Washington?

The answer of course, is no one. Your beloved "representatives" want to be bought out, because it benefits them to make deals with corporations. Again, this is all government failure, and has nothing to do with private property in the means of production.
 
Republicans cannot win most elections without active and strong voter suppression. Just look at the results in Georgia and Texas in the last elections.
 
But at least the Dems want everyone to vote.

Part of the reason the country is in such a mess is because everyone is allowed to vote. Voting should definitely be restricted. We can argue about the criteria, but if you let idiots vote, then they'll vote for idiots. See my username for evidence.
 
Except thats not what he said. Not sure Guardian should be considered MSM, if you scroll down they have a anti Trump ad asking for money to fight Trump.

It was on other sources as well. But nice try.
 
Restoring voting rights to who, Illegals?? Voting is a right for all Americans that should be taken seriously, most states now have early voting giving people every opportunity to exercise that right. Seems rather easy to vote now but that isn't good enough for you, is it? You want illegals to be able to cast ballots by taking away the security required to cast a ballot in this country.

Your comments are typical biased liberal rhetoric showing that legal voting isn't important to you but returning power to the entitlement mentality individual is. This is a perfect example of people who want to be catered to and have no responsibility when it comes to being an American citizen. You have gone over the cliff on this one totally ignoring as usual CONTEXT

Check out the Dakotas in the 2018 election - they closed the closest places for Native Americans to vote. Read about it in Georgia, Florida.........take the blinders off. Typical Conservative rhetoric bs.
 
Check out the Dakotas in the 2018 election - they closed the closest places for Native Americans to vote. Read about it in Georgia, Florida.........take the blinders off. Typical Conservative rhetoric bs.

Both Florida and the Dakotas have early voting and plenty of opportunities for Native Americans to get to the polls. If it was important enough for them they would make the effort. Obviously the only way suitable to you would be to go door to door to give and collect ballots. Talk about an entitlement attitude?
 
Trump is right. Without voter suppression, stacking the courts, extreme gerrymandering, and smear tactics, the GOP is toast

And he's not the only one in his party saying that. :lol:
 
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Republicans want everyone to vote to, everyone that is eligible to vote. If Democrats can pander for votes why can't Republicans?

Yeah everyone 'eligible'. And they make it harder to be 'eligible.' Then even when someone is eligible, they move or close polling stations or find ways to strike their names of rolls, while putting up hurdles to ensure they don't get reinstated in time for the next election. Horse****. They do all this because they don't want people to vote. We've heard them admit it so many times, what's the point in trying to lie.
 
Part of the reason the country is in such a mess is because everyone is allowed to vote. Voting should definitely be restricted. We can argue about the criteria, but if you let idiots vote, then they'll vote for idiots. See my username for evidence.

Sorry, even idiots can be allowed to vote. Perhaps they should be better informed, or the corporate money should be taken out of the equation because that often pays for the marketing used to sway idiots, but there's no reason every adult should not be allowed to vote. IMO even felons should - from inside jail.
 
but there's no reason every adult should not be allowed to vote.

Yes, there is a reason, and it's the same reason we don't let children vote - because they lack the mental capacity to vote intelligently.
 
Yes, there is a reason, and it's the same reason we don't let children vote - because they lack the mental capacity to vote intelligently.

And the 60 million nationwide who selected a TV game show personality who'd never held office, ran several businesses into the ground, boasted of sexually assaulting women and made up most of what he proposed on the spot because he'd been 'hearing people say things' - what of them? Should they all be stripped of their voting rights? Or does it apply only to the few thousand who voted for a freshman congresswoman in her district?

The point is who gets to define what is a 'dumb' vote and where do we start and stop cutting people off? I say the best we can do is ensure they are as informed as we can and let them choose based on that.
 
The point is who gets to define what is a 'dumb' vote and where do we start and stop cutting people off?

How about a basic civics test? Nothing partisan, just some basic questions about how the US government works, like the civics test immigrants must pass to become a US citizen.

You claim to want informed voters, this is a simple way to weed out those who are extremely ignorant regarding how our government works.
 
The title is a lie. That bill literally allowed people to vote for other people, allowed for people to vote claiming they were voting for someone else - combining this with instant registration to vote. And to do all this on the Internet. So I could vote online thru the entire election non stop every day from the moment early election starting - just saying some name authorized me to vote for him or her - even if no such person even existed.

And that is just one example of how absurd the bill was.
 
How about a basic civics test? Nothing partisan, just some basic questions about how the US government works, like the civics test immigrants must pass to become a US citizen.

You claim to want informed voters, this is a simple way to weed out those who are extremely ignorant regarding how our government works.

You do those tests, and Republicans would never win an election again.
 
Trump is a douche bag.
 
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