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Terrorist rhetoric!
Muslims have done far worse in the name of Allah and Islamic mind control.
O'rly? :roll:
Terrorist rhetoric!
Muslims have done far worse in the name of Allah and Islamic mind control.
Regardless of what so many people will tell you, there is nothing wrong with this. It is natural and right for any person to put their own tribe above other tribes-- just as within the tribe, a person should put their own family above other families.
It is the natural order of things, and our obligation as members of a tribe.
Sounds similar to the diversity within the Christian community. Imagine that!
Then you need to study history just a little bit more carefully.
There is almost as much blood on catholic hands as is there is on Muslim hands.
:rofl
Well, you may just be surprised at how many people assume we all believe one thing because we are from one religion
Most Americans have only seen a characature of Islam through the worst elements of the faith. There are more militant radicals in Islam than in Christianity, but to assume that all one billion or so Muslims in the world are radicals is an unsustainable reach. I have had a lot of interaction with Muslims in my career - most of which has been extraordinarly positive. I have found most Muslims to be kind, generous, God fearing people. The militants spoil it for everyone else.
Thats wonderful, i'd love to have the opportunity one day to travel the Muslim countries - where have you travelled so far? =]
Sadly yes, the radicals seem to have both the spotlight and stage and it tends to be mainstream moderates that take the backlash for what is done by the minority.
The only Islamic countries I have actually visited are Indonesia (which language I speak reasonably well) and Malaysia (also with a similar language). In my work in both the US and now in Taiwan, I have worked with Muslims from the Philippines, India, Pakistan, Kuwait, Iran, UAE, Somalia (I think the former Italian part), Sudan, Western Sahara, and Algeria.
Looking out for one's on tribe is one thing. For it to result in violence, especially as it has been manifested in Somalia and DR Congo/Rwanda is another entirely.
O'rly? :roll:
I'll freely admit I've developed a sort of disgust for Islam and Muslims in general. I don't really like religions in general, any of them.
I don't think it's so bad that I can't treat Muslims with respect. But it's certainly gotten to the point where I'm less sympathetic towards Islamic dogma and Muslim rhetoric in general.
I'd never want to live in a Muslim dominated country. As far as I'm concerned it's up to them to stop treating women like **** and until they do I'll hold them in contempt.
I do realize there are moderate Muslims in the world but unless they can wrestle the reputation of their religion back from the nutty misogynists it's unlikely I'll hold them in high regard. As far as I'm concerned Islam needs to grow up and apologizing for it's many many tantrums is counterproductive.
No, but it makes very little sense to be revulsed by something that happened a very long way away, that you can neither prevent nor avenge. Put me in town square with an angry mob and a young girl, and I can only hope that my answer would be different.
I never even heard of this girl before she was cold and in the ground. That makes it very difficult to care.
The Roman Catholic Church is responsible for more death than any organization in the history of mankind, as well.Wow. Bigoted ignorance from the left. Why am I not surprised?
The Roman Catholic Church is responsible for more charity than any organization in the history of mankind.
In fairness to the media, they don't just focus on negative circumstances or events, they focus on things that are out of the ordinary. A car wreck might seem rather ordinary but considering how many vehicles don't get into a wreck everyday, a wreck becomes something out of the ordinary. Same with a liquor store robbery, how many people go to the liquor store and don't rob it... There is also the fact that tragedy and out the ordinary things interest humans more than the mundane. So if you have 2 news papers with one reporting on the flowers that grew today and the cool summer breeze and 200 million people made it to work and back safely, you'd probably buy the one that had a big wreck or a blown up building on the front page.I sort of agree with Korimyr. In principle I know I shouldn't, but every day I open a news paper or read online about something heinous that happened somewhere in the world. It seems like that's all that the media reports on, and they report on it to illicit an emotional reaction from the audience. That's how they make their money and get their ratings. The same goes for television news.
The media posts stories like this for shock value, it's not really educating us about the region or telling us why things are the way they are. It's to get an empty reaction. But you know what, every day I see so many stories, both from my own country and abroad, about how something cruel happened, and I just don't have the energy to invest care in every little thing that happens. I only have control over my own life, and maybe my more immediate surroundings. Every day on my way home from school I see the same woman holding her child while sitting on the sidewalk; she is a filthy mess, her feet bitten up by bugs, and she looks completely woeful. There are other homeless people around but I can't help them all, so I choose to help her. I buy her something to eat. For me, the cost is literally less than 50 cents Canadian. I ask her how she's doing, if she and her kid have had enough to eat today. If I were not in China, I wouldn't know of her existence, and therefore I would not care.
There is plenty of injustice in my own area. I could do something to help that, and maybe, by proxy, help the entire world somehow. But sitting here and judging a story about something that happened thousands of kilometres away in an area where I have no power to help, is not conducive to any kind of improvement. Call me a pragmatist.
You care because the article tells you to care. How many other injustices in the world are you not aware of right now? If you could be apprised of even 2% of the crap going on in the world, you would forget the moral argument against apathy; you would simply be overwhelmed and not have the mental capacity to care.
I sort of agree with Korimyr. In principle I know I shouldn't...
I only have control over my own life, and maybe my more immediate surroundings. Every day on my way home from school I see the same woman... ... ...I can't help them all, so I choose to help her.
If I were not in China, I wouldn't know of her existence, and therefore I would not care.
There is plenty of injustice in my own area. I could do something to help that, and maybe, by proxy, help the entire world somehow.
The Roman Catholic Church is responsible for more death than any organization in the history of mankind, as well.
Now, show me where my response was bigoted and ignorant. Is any of what I said untrue?
I know I'm coming in this conversation late, but I have to say that apathy toward these actions even in a far off land is as bad as condoning them.
You are making the claim that the Catholic Church is responsible for more death than any organization in the history of mankind. PROVE IT!
The Dark Ages were caused by the RCCs stand against scientific advancement. How many died because medicine didn't advance? How many died from starvation because of the feudal system? How many pagans were killed in the process of conversion?
Nine Crusades
How many people have been killed by Christians since Biblical times? - ExChristian.Net - Articles
The Catholic Church DRAGGED EUROPE OUT of the Dark Ages. The Church preserved knowledge, preserved literacy in dangerous times (actually improving on the writing system at the time), was PRO-SCIENCE, and PRO-EDUCATION.
Get your head out of your bigoted biases and actually look at the accomplishments of the Church.
GALILEO - What were Galileo's scientific and biblical conflicts with the Church? - ChristianAnswers.NetA major work published in 1632 resulted in Galileo's conviction on suspicion of heresy and a lifetime house arrest. The Galileo affair provides important lessons and applications to the Church and to science today.
You are making the claim that the Catholic Church is responsible for more death than any organization in the history of mankind. PROVE IT!