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Trump approval rating at all-time high

Is that your excuse for Trump's lack of integrity? Have your leadership standards always been so low?

Integrity to you now seems to be important but it wasn't the last 8 years under Obama, your ideology has led you to continued negative posting and bashing of a President that is serving no purpose other than to see your screen name in a forum. You aren't changing any minds here. You will have a chance to remove Trump on November, I don't see that happening but I do see your constant bashing of the President 24/7 not serving any purpose
 
what I was doing is irrelevant...he should not have destroyed the Pandemic team in 2018...that is what set him up for the situation he is in now...the Pandemic team would have saw this coming and would have assisted him in preparing..

Exactly! Trump worshipers refuse to accept reality and hard facts, if their fantasy King will fulfill their dreams of a greater (whiter) America. They care nothing about their fellow man, and the Christian worshipers are hypocrites. They put their new King and their failed party The Trump Klan Party over the United States of America. They have no patriotism whatsoever!
 
You really have a love for Obama that hides your ability to comprehend reality. You think creating part time jobs for economic reasons and only having 6 million new jobs created from the beginning of the recession warranted the 842 billion dollar stimulus? Were there enough new jobs created to fund that stimulus? You keep diverting and running from tough questions

This isn't about Republican or Democrat, this is about the Obama incompetence in dealing with the recession by not creating policies that created new taxpayers to fund his 842 billion stimulus and growing the economy outside of gov't spending

PLEASE LEARN TO READ
I was and have been talking about the debt and how YOU and a lot of other Republicans love to blame Obama for the debt that went up when he was in office but YOU don't want to Blame Trump for the debt when he is in office
and YES I have been talking about the debt and how much it has gone up in the last 10/11 years for a lot of YEARS
we need a Balanced budget adm, and it needs to have some teeth in it , the only time we could run a deficit would be in a deep recession/ depression or a war like WWII and ONLY then
I have even suggested that we have a 1% sales tax on everything NO exceptions for anybody or any Corp.
that is because everybody got some benefit from running up the debt so we all should help pay it off ( and I have been saying that for years now ) and when the debt is paid off it would be suspended and could only be used to pay off the debt and only brought back if we needed to run another debt because of a recession/depression or war
have a nice afternoon
 
PLEASE LEARN TO READ
I was and have been talking about the debt and how YOU and a lot of other Republicans love to blame Obama for the debt that went up when he was in office but YOU don't want to Blame Trump for the debt when he is in office
and YES I have been talking about the debt and how much it has gone up in the last 10/11 years for a lot of YEARS
we need a Balanced budget adm, and it needs to have some teeth in it , the only time we could run a deficit would be in a deep recession/ depression or a war like WWII and ONLY then
I have even suggested that we have a 1% sales tax on everything NO exceptions for anybody or any Corp.
that is because everybody got some benefit from running up the debt so we all should help pay it off ( and I have been saying that for years now ) and when the debt is paid off it would be suspended and could only be used to pay off the debt and only brought back if we needed to run another debt because of a recession/depression or war
have a nice afternoon

Are you suggestion a Federal VAT to pay off debt? Hmmm interesting
 
Lives aren't going to be saved your constant whining and complaining about a President who is doing his job and has a 60% approval rating on the handling of it. what do you hope to accomplish by the 24/7 negative posts regarding Trump. Step down for what reason 67,000 cases in NY?? Your biased opinion is based upon total and complete hatred and ignorance for no apparent reason.

I have zero power, it doesn't matter if I complain or not...the power I hold is in the election box, but my complaining along with others makes it eventually to the attention of the president and other elected officials....and they should be paying attention to what the public is complaining about. Step down, because he made a huge mistake...one that cost people their lives.
 
why my focus is now, is because lives are being lost....he needs to step up and stop being an immature brat. He wanted to be president...so now it is time to act like one or step down and allow someone else to take the lead.

I been watching politics 40 years. I have a degree in History, just going off historical precedents I would say China has made Trump a one term President. The nail in the coffin will be the recession that follows. He is toast
 
PLEASE LEARN TO READ
I was and have been talking about the debt and how YOU and a lot of other Republicans love to blame Obama for the debt that went up when he was in office but YOU don't want to Blame Trump for the debt when he is in office
and YES I have been talking about the debt and how much it has gone up in the last 10/11 years for a lot of YEARS
we need a Balanced budget adm, and it needs to have some teeth in it , the only time we could run a deficit would be in a deep recession/ depression or a war like WWII and ONLY then
I have even suggested that we have a 1% sales tax on everything NO exceptions for anybody or any Corp.
that is because everybody got some benefit from running up the debt so we all should help pay it off ( and I have been saying that for years now ) and when the debt is paid off it would be suspended and could only be used to pay off the debt and only brought back if we needed to run another debt because of a recession/depression or war
have a nice afternoon

Look this is getting old and tiring as your constant posts showing complete ignorance of the budget and spending is staggering. I really do feel sorry for people like you with such loyalty to Obama and such ignorance of context in the data. Nothing is ever going to change your mind which makes this a waste of time for anyone posting to you. I am still waiting for you to explain the difference between a part time job and a full time job when it comes to federal revenue and your acknowledgement that the stimulus of 842 billion not only contributed to the debt but never generated the promised taxpayers to fund that stimulus or create strong economic growth.

Your basic problem remains, you ignored that there were 146 million Americana paying taxes when the recession started and until April 2008 of which 4.8 million were part time employees for economic reasons then at the end of the Obama term there were 152 million employed and 5.8 million part time for economic reasons. Think 6 million new jobs created in 9 years is enough to pay for the Obama spending on the stimulus?? Didn't think so

Obama's problem and yours is you don't understand the private sector and incentive. You want to credit Obama from the bottom and not what he was hired to do, return us to pre recession levels then grow from there, He failed miserably as he focused on the public sector bailing out unions and teachers neither of which were his responsibility.

In 2009 AFTER the stimulus was signed 4 million jobs were lost, 1 million of them came back in 2010 leaving us with 139 million employed. That is a failed stimulus as it didn't do what was intended. Reality sucks as does your argument
 
I have zero power, it doesn't matter if I complain or not...the power I hold is in the election box, but my complaining along with others makes it eventually to the attention of the president and other elected officials....and they should be paying attention to what the public is complaining about. Step down, because he made a huge mistake...one that cost people their lives.

Your complaining hasn't affected the President at all and in fact it has improved his popularity where it matters in the Electoral college. you have been giving 24/7 negative attention to the President since his election in 2016 and it doesn't seem to do your ideology any good. He didn't make a mistake, you continue to do that believing that 24/7 negativity solves problems. Trump isn't going to step down nor should he. He is doing the job he was hired to do, generated the results I voted for and will vote for again. You can continue to whine and complain during his new four year term
 
I been watching politics 40 years. I have a degree in History, just going off historical precedents I would say China has made Trump a one term President. The nail in the coffin will be the recession that follows. He is toast

and it is one that had he had the foresight to listen to the experts, he would have avoided it entirely. The only thing we would be dealing with at the moment would be bailing out the oil industry that would be collapsing over the oil war between Russia and Saudi Arabia...that we could face and deal with, it is one industry. However, a fired pandemic team resulted in us not having the preparation we needed to avoid the fallout we are seeing now. I am entirely against us running a deficit, any true fiscal conservative would be...I think we need to balance the budget and agree with a direct tax to do so....however, cutting corporate welfare and stopping loopholes that help industries avoid tax would be a start.
 
A national crisis? 160,000 cases in a country of 328 million in which 67,000 are in the state of NY. Do you think placing blame on the President is constructive and offers any value? looks to me like you need a civics education

That's actually a really good tactic to use. Just pretend this isn't a big deal and that the executive branch shouldn't be in charge with the final say.

Bravo for toeing the company line.
 
Your complaining hasn't affected the President at all and in fact it has improved his popularity where it matters in the Electoral college. you have been giving 24/7 negative attention to the President since his election in 2016 and it doesn't seem to do your ideology any good. He didn't make a mistake, you continue to do that believing that 24/7 negativity solves problems. Trump isn't going to step down nor should he. He is doing the job he was hired to do, generated the results I voted for and will vote for again. You can continue to whine and complain during his new four year term

The electoral college isn't being affected by this. The economy is toast and the fault sits in Trump's lap.
 
I been watching politics 40 years. I have a degree in History, just going off historical precedents I would say China has made Trump a one term President. The nail in the coffin will be the recession that follows. He is toast

You have the same credibility with predictions as you do in your posts. There isn't a Democratic Candidate presently that will win the electoral college in November, you know it and I know it but the difference is my predictions will come true, yours won't
 
The electoral college isn't being affected by this. The economy is toast and the fault sits in Trump's lap.

The economy is only toast for liberals who want a massive central gov't. your opinions mirror your credibility, none at all
 
Look this is getting old and tiring as your constant posts showing complete ignorance of the budget and spending is staggering. I really do feel sorry for people like you with such loyalty to Obama and such ignorance of context in the data. Nothing is ever going to change your mind which makes this a waste of time for anyone posting to you. I am still waiting for you to explain the difference between a part time job and a full time job when it comes to federal revenue and your acknowledgement that the stimulus of 842 billion not only contributed to the debt but never generated the promised taxpayers to fund that stimulus or create strong economic growth.

Your basic problem remains, you ignored that there were 146 million Americana paying taxes when the recession started and until April 2008 of which 4.8 million were part time employees for economic reasons then at the end of the Obama term there were 152 million employed and 5.8 million part time for economic reasons. Think 6 million new jobs created in 9 years is enough to pay for the Obama spending on the stimulus?? Didn't think so

Obama's problem and yours is you don't understand the private sector and incentive. You want to credit Obama from the bottom and not what he was hired to do, return us to pre recession levels then grow from there, He failed miserably as he focused on the public sector bailing out unions and teachers neither of which were his responsibility.

In 2009 AFTER the stimulus was signed 4 million jobs were lost, 1 million of them came back in 2010 leaving us with 139 million employed. That is a failed stimulus as it didn't do what was intended. Reality sucks as does your argument

Obama hasn't been president since 2016...this but Obama is an old tactic...we are focusing on the here and now.
 
PLEASE LEARN TO READ
I was and have been talking about the debt and how YOU and a lot of other Republicans love to blame Obama for the debt that went up when he was in office but YOU don't want to Blame Trump for the debt when he is in office
and YES I have been talking about the debt and how much it has gone up in the last 10/11 years for a lot of YEARS
we need a Balanced budget adm, and it needs to have some teeth in it , the only time we could run a deficit would be in a deep recession/ depression or a war like WWII and ONLY then
I have even suggested that we have a 1% sales tax on everything NO exceptions for anybody or any Corp.
that is because everybody got some benefit from running up the debt so we all should help pay it off ( and I have been saying that for years now ) and when the debt is paid off it would be suspended and could only be used to pay off the debt and only brought back if we needed to run another debt because of a recession/depression or war
have a nice afternoon

I gave you the right answer, you ignored it and continue on your tangent of ignoring the actual data and context. When you address the context of the official data then I will respond again to you, until then I am no longer going to beat my head against the wall educating someone who is incapable of understanding federal spending and the budget
 
PLEASE LEARN TO READ
I was and have been talking about the debt and how YOU and a lot of other Republicans love to blame Obama for the debt that went up when he was in office but YOU don't want to Blame Trump for the debt when he is in office
and YES I have been talking about the debt and how much it has gone up in the last 10/11 years for a lot of YEARS
we need a Balanced budget adm, and it needs to have some teeth in it , the only time we could run a deficit would be in a deep recession/ depression or a war like WWII and ONLY then
I have even suggested that we have a 1% sales tax on everything NO exceptions for anybody or any Corp.
that is because everybody got some benefit from running up the debt so we all should help pay it off ( and I have been saying that for years now ) and when the debt is paid off it would be suspended and could only be used to pay off the debt and only brought back if we needed to run another debt because of a recession/depression or war
have a nice afternoon

Well, they never truly cared about the debt and the Tea Party was just the South attempting to rise due to circumstances in the Executive Branch.

These people will look no different than those people who supported the worst politicians in the 1940s-50s.
 
Obama hasn't been president since 2016...this but Obama is an old tactic...we are focusing on the here and now.

No he wasn't thus he hasn't generated the following results through February 2020 but the comparison is there

DP and Dollar change
2008 14712.8
2009 14448.9
2010 14992.1
GDP dollars and GDP dollar growth, 487 billion growth is what Trump inherited, what was it in 2017-2018-2019?

2011 15,542.6 +804.4
2012 16197.0 +562.4
2013 16784.9 +587.9
2014 17527.3 +652.4
2015 18224.8 +697.5
2016 18715.0 +487.2
2017 19519.4 +804.4
2018 20,580.2 +1060.8
2019 21427.1 +846.9

Then there is this which Trump inherited and the comparison today. Anyone that claims the GDP growth now is similar to what Obama had is the true hack and totally has no credibility

Unemployment Rate 4.7% January 2017 vs. 3.6% today

Employed 152.2 million January 2017 to 157.9 million today so 6 million job growth from 2008 to 2017(146 million to 152 million) is celebrated but 6.7 million growth I the last two years isn't!! LOL

U-6 in January 2017 9.3% vs 6.9% today? Wow!! 2.4% better U-6 obviously meaningless to you

Part time for economic reasons, 5.7 million January 2017 vs. 4.2 million today? Looks to me that incredible job growth you claim was boosted by part time jobs. Part time for economic reason jobs when the recession started 4.8 million, 5.7 million when Obama left office

African American unemployment 8.0% vs. 6.0% today? That explains the surge in support from African Americans for Trump
 
Americans do have a history of rallying behind a POTUS during times of crisis. I remember Bush after 9/11. Although, I don't remember how long that lasted.

At Trump's finest hour in approval ratings, it's worthy to note, I suppose, that over 1/2 of American still think he sucks. Still.

It's kinda like winning a blue ribbon at the Special Olympics. Sure, you get a nice ribbon but you're still "mentally challenged."

You guys hunker down and stay well.
 
Well, they never truly cared about the debt and the Tea Party was just the South attempting to rise due to circumstances in the Executive Branch.

These people will look no different than those people who supported the worst politicians in the 1940s-50s.

You seem to care more about the federal gov't getting more of the taxpayer dollars than the taxpayers keeping more of what they earn. That is classic liberalism and why liberals aren't very successful in any private sector economy. It never is about social spending cuts for you, is it?
 
Is that your excuse for Trump's lack of integrity? Have your leadership standards always been so low?

It's Ukraine all over again with Trump. :twisted:

 
Doom and gloom predictions are all that you are good at. Doesn't seem that the blame for the potential lost jobs is on the President

it isn't my prediction...it is the fed prediction...meaning Trump's own department is saying that. It is indeed his fault...you touted he was responsible for the economy...thus he is responsible in the good, bad and ugly dude.
 
Breaking News too:

A president unfit for a pandemic - The Boston Globe

"While the spread of the novel coronavirus has been aggressive around the world, much of the profound impact it will have here in the United States was preventable. As the American public braces itself for the worst of this crisis, it’s worth remembering that the reach of the virus here is not attributable to an act of God or a foreign invasion, but a colossal failure of leadership."
 
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