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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    No, that is how you like to think of it. In the case of Social Security, the amount you pay in has a relationship to the amount you qualify for. In the case of Medicare, it doesn't. For example, let's say that Bob works his whole life for the minimum wage and Bill is in the top 10% of wage earners. The difference in the amounts that each of them paid into the Medicare system while they worked is irrelevant to their Medicare benefit. In either case, if they paid into the Medicare system for at just 10 years, they both qualify for it.

    This is a very simple concept, it's troubling that you can't seem to grasp it.
    Oh, I grasp it quite well, you apparently don't. It is my money, I contributed to Medicare for 35 years paying premiums that I am now collecting on and entitled to. Seems like a rather simple concept that you refuse to acknowledge. In addition I am paying $180 a month in addition and have used none of that since retirement as my health has been very good. The fact that you begrudge people for getting benefits out of their investment is quite telling. Who in the hell are you to tell anyone that their social security benefits(entitlements funded by FICA taxes) aren't entitled to a return on that investment with interest and aren't entitled to healthcare benefits through their Medicare premium payments during their work career. This has to be an act as no education system is this poor to create people like you and the other poster

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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, I grasp it quite well, you apparently don't. It is my money, I contributed to Medicare for 35 years paying premiums that I am now collecting on and entitled to. Seems like a rather simple concept that you refuse to acknowledge. In addition I am paying $180 a month in addition and have used none of that since retirement as my health has been very good. The fact that you begrudge people for getting benefits out of their investment is quite telling. Who in the hell are you to tell anyone that their social security benefits(entitlements funded by FICA taxes) aren't entitled to a return on that investment with interest and aren't entitled to healthcare benefits through their Medicare premium payments during their work career. This has to be an act as no education system is this poor to create people like you and the other poster
    Please cite the law that says the money you contributed to Medicare in taxes was your money and not as I point out, paying into the system for those that were drawing Medicare at the time.

    Also, 180 a month is nothing for health insurance. Typical premiums for a young family these days run 12k to 18k a year. For someone your age, it would be 3 times that much or more.

    You paid into a socialized medicine program while you worked. That then qualified you for that socialized medicine program. It is no different than any other socialized medicine program on earth in that people pay taxes for. You just like to construct your own alternate reality that somehow for you its different...
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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes it was, it is called thinking ahead and taking personal responsibility for myself and my family.

    Yes, why would I opt out of insurance for my family during my employment? Is this a joke or an act on your part. Your questions make no sense. I paid 35 years of Medicare premiums while also paying private sector premiums. Now I am retired no longer paying private sector premiums and getting insurance coverage for my Medicare Premiums plus I am paying for a supplemental. Your post makes no sense at all
    you said you were forced and that you didn't receive a due benefit....sorry, can't have it both ways...you were certainly free to choose not to take on that bill.

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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, I don't think you do. What federal taxes fund teachers, fire departments, hospitals? What federal taxes fund state and local highways and infrastructure? What taxes fund national defense, Congress, the VA, HHS, Commerce, etc?

    Waiting for why you think it is appropriate to deduct your state and local taxes from your federal return thus reducing your federal tax liabilities?
    who says we are only talking about federal funds? Hospitals and schools indeed get federal funds...do you know what they are funded through? They also receive state funds..but they do receive federal.

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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Please cite the law that says the money you contributed to Medicare in taxes was your money and not as I point out, paying into the system for those that were drawing Medicare at the time.

    Also, 180 a month is nothing for health insurance. Typical premiums for a young family these days run 12k to 18k a year. For someone your age, it would be 3 times that much or more.

    You paid into a socialized medicine program while you worked. That then qualified you for that socialized medicine program. It is no different than any other socialized medicine program on earth in that people pay taxes for. You just like to construct your own alternate reality that somehow for you its different...
    I think he really believes he was paying private insurance rates...what he doesn't realize is that a group rate is deeply discounted and even with that deep discount, the employer pays part of that premium for him. A private insurance premium for me would cost around $1500 a month...just for me.

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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Please cite the law that says the money you contributed to Medicare in taxes was your money and not as I point out, paying into the system for those that were drawing Medicare at the time.

    Also, 180 a month is nothing for health insurance. Typical premiums for a young family these days run 12k to 18k a year. For someone your age, it would be 3 times that much or more.

    You paid into a socialized medicine program while you worked. That then qualified you for that socialized medicine program. It is no different than any other socialized medicine program on earth in that people pay taxes for. You just like to construct your own alternate reality that somehow for you its different...
    I don't have to quote a law, I can show you my bank account and the withdrawals. Socialized medicine when I retired?? I was forced into this program not by choice which you seem to ignore. Have a good one, this is a waste of time and has nothing to do with the OP. Your massive support for the liberal massive central govt/ defies logic and common sense

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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraD View Post
    you said you were forced and that you didn't receive a due benefit....sorry, can't have it both ways...you were certainly free to choose not to take on that bill.
    Are you really this clueless or is this an act? I choose when to take SS not so with Medicare. Cannot believe how poorly educated the left is

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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraD View Post
    who says we are only talking about federal funds? Hospitals and schools indeed get federal funds...do you know what they are funded through? They also receive state funds..but they do receive federal.
    They get federal funds but not for what you think, why don't you find out where those funds go and stop making an ass out of yourself

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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Are you really this clueless or is this an act? I choose when to take SS not so with Medicare. Cannot believe how poorly educated the left is
    you decided to take both of them...it isn't automatci...but I was referring to your employer based insurance...not Medicare. If you don't want Medicare, you don't sign up for Social Security...you can opt out as well...my step father did.

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    Re: Trump approval rating at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    They get federal funds but not for what you think, why don't you find out where those funds go and stop making an ass out of yourself
    you said they don't receive federal funds...you do realize that fed funds are from taxpayer money right? I don't need to find out why the hospital got them...not my concern..not my concern why the schools get them either.....you however, stated they don't get federal tax payer money...at least you admit your error finally.

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