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China hints at denying US coronavirus drugs

Grand Mal said:
The US also sent supplies to China. And it was a positive, praise-worthy move then.

The US Sent Tons of Medical Supplies to China Even as Senators Warned of Virus Threat Here
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So did Australia. [url]https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/australia-was-drained-of-masks-for-china/3981857/ Inside Australian factory packed with coronavirus supplies being sent to CHINA | Daily Mail Online

But who do the insular and insecure Canadians focus on? Donald Trump! Is there never any sense of embarrassment among the Canadian leftists?
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
So did Australia. Australia was drained of masks for China | Chronicle Inside Australian factory packed with coronavirus supplies being sent to CHINA | Daily Mail Online

But who do the insular and insecure Canadians focus on? Donald Trump! Is there never any sense of embarrassment among the Canadian leftists?
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So did Canada

Canada sent 16 tonnes of medical equipment to China, now faces shortage | The Post Millennial - News, Politics, Culture, and Lifestyle

Embarrassment? We didn't elect a scummy fraudster scam artist. You did. You Trumpelievers have embarrassed your whole country.

Uh, did you actually read my post you quoted? The part where I said, "positive, praise-worthy move"?
 
Grand Mal said:
So did Canada

Canada sent 16 tonnes of medical equipment to China, now faces shortage | The Post Millennial - News, Politics, Culture, and Lifestyle

Embarrassment? We didn't elect a scummy fraudster scam artist. You did. You Trumpelievers have embarrassed your whole country.

Uh, did you actually read my post you quoted? The part where I said, "positive, praise-worthy move"?
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Canadians elected a teenager whose reputation rests on his going Blackface to public events and wearing inappropriate costumes while visiting a foreign country. He's the joke who heads up the International Cultural Appropriation Commission. A canadian compromise who couldn't decide which gender their leader should be.

Sending medical supplies to China was not a "positive, praise-worthy move". It was idiotic and should be investigated, with names being named and those responsible held accountable.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Canadians elected a teenager whose reputation rests on his going Blackface to public events and wearing inappropriate costumes while visiting a foreign country. He's the joke who heads up the International Cultural Appropriation Commission. A canadian compromise who couldn't decide which gender their leader should be.

Sending medical supplies to China was not a "positive, praise-worthy move". It was idiotic and should be investigated, with names being named and those responsible held accountable.
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I'm no fan of Trudeau Lite and lots of Canadians aren't but damned if he isn't head-and-shoulders above anyone the US has put forward for President since gawd-knows when. You guys had a choice between leprosy and syphilis last time around. You chose leprosy but your whacky-do system gave you syphilis anyway. And this time, damn, no wonder Trudeau looks like a teen-ager to you. Do you have anyone under 75 in your politics?
Wanna bet nobody investigates and takes names? Might show up in a Democratic campaign ad, though, especially if your death toll rises for lack of supplies. Now that the red states are starting to get hit, by November that shipment might take some 'splainin'.
 
Grand Mal said:
I'm no fan of Trudeau Lite and lots of Canadians aren't but damned if he isn't head-and-shoulders above anyone the US has put forward for President since gawd-knows when. You guys had a choice between leprosy and syphilis last time around. You chose leprosy but your whacky-do system gave you syphilis anyway. And this time, damn, no wonder Trudeau looks like a teen-ager to you. Do you have anyone under 75 in your politics?
Wanna bet nobody investigates and takes names? Might show up in a Democratic campaign ad, though, especially if your death toll rises for lack of supplies. Now that the red states are starting to get hit, by November that shipment might take some 'splainin'.
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Your medical analogies don't work. Try using some facts rather than sharing your childlike feelings.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Your medical analogies don't work. Try using some facts rather than sharing your childlike feelings.
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That's it? That's all you've got?
Not very good at this, are you.
 
Grand Mal said:
That's it? That's all you've got?
Not very good at this, are you.
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How can anyone respond to your post about syphilis and whatever? Make a valid point, based on facts, and I'll happily respond.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
How can anyone respond to your post about syphilis and whatever? Make a valid point, based on facts, and I'll happily respond.
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Did you vote for Trump or against Clinton? See, a lot of people I know (from here mostly) held their noses while they voted to take a SCOTUS nomination away from the Democrats and now they're having a tough time supporting the punkin-headed lardass. Me, were I American I probably would have sat it out. That's what I do when I don't like the Liberal Party leader. That's what I did in a our last election.
That's what the leprosy-syphilis analogy meant. A choice between two bad options. And once again the Democratic Party is liable to offer you leprosy and you'll get syphilis again.
 
Grand Mal said:
Did you vote for Trump or against Clinton? See, a lot of people I know (from here mostly) held their noses while they voted to take a SCOTUS nomination away from the Democrats and now they're having a tough time supporting the punkin-headed lardass. Me, were I American I probably would have sat it out. That's what I do when I don't like the Liberal Party leader. That's what I did in a our last election.
That's what the leprosy-syphilis analogy meant. A choice between two bad options. And once again the Democratic Party is liable to offer you leprosy and you'll get syphilis again.
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Your feelings are of no interest to me, nor are your simple analogies. There's nothing to debate in your posts.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Your feelings are of no interest to me, nor are your simple analogies. There's nothing to debate in your posts.
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Oh damn. Imagine my chagrin. Hey, lemme try again, I bet I can come up with something you'll like, something that will give you a backboard you can bounce your opinions off of.
Stay put and lemme think on it...
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Yeah, Canada was certainly ahead of the curve. Canada sent 16 tonnes of medical equipment to China, now faces shortage | The Post Millennial - News, Politics, Culture, and Lifestyle
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I totally agree, there is absolutely no place for compassion or sympathy for the plight of others in the world today.

BTW, the updated figures (as of 0001 Z 03 APR 2002) are

COUNTRYTOTAL CASES
(A)		TOTAL DEATHS
(B)		CASES PER
1,000,000		DEATHS PER
1,000,000		MORTALITY RATE
(B)/(A)
CHINA81,6203,3225720.041
USA276,9657,391837220.027
CANADA12,37520832860.017

Quite frankly I consider the Canadian figures to be MUCH worse than they should have been. You, on the other hand, are (I suspect) almost content because the US comes **F*I*R*S*T** in four out of the five metrics (although coming **F*I*R*S*T** in all five is what the US really should be doing and would be doing if it wasn't for Obama/Clinton and their left-wing, loony, liberal, socialist, pinko, commie conspiracy to destroy America).

PS - The numbers for China should be regarded with some skepticism, but they ARE the only official numbers available.
 
Grand Mal said:
The US also sent supplies to China. And it was a positive, praise-worthy move then.

The US Sent Tons of Medical Supplies to China Even as Senators Warned of Virus Threat Here – Mother Jones
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Picky, picky, picky.

What you have to remember is that it wasn't Mr. Trump who sent those supplies, it was the Clinton/Obama Deep State Conspiracy doing it to aid their commie brothers and to set America up for massive deaths due to the germ warfare attack that the ChiComs had launched against America.

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Fred C Dobbs II said:
So did Australia. Australia was drained of masks for China | Chronicle Inside Australian factory packed with coronavirus supplies being sent to CHINA | Daily Mail Online

But who do the insular and insecure Canadians focus on? Donald Trump! Is there never any sense of embarrassment among the Canadian leftists?
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I don't recall any Canadians complaining about the US (or Australia) sending medical aid to China. Could you please provide me with some links to show that they did so?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
I don't recall any Canadians complaining about the US (or Australia) sending medical aid to China. Could you please provide me with some links to show that they did so?
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Why not familiarize yourself with the thread before asking goofy, and unrelated, questions? The post you're responding to mentions Donald Trump. Can you not see that?
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
Canadians elected a teenager ...
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Mr. Trudeau was born on December 25, 1971 and assumed office on November 4, 2015. At that time he was one month and three weeks short of his 44[sup]th[/sup] birthday. Possibly in the United States of America those who are 43 years old are viewed as "teenagers", but the term is reserved for those over the age of 12 and under the age of 20 in Canada.

[ASIDE - Mr. Trudeau was NOT "elected" to the office of Prime Minister, he was elected as the member for the riding of Papineau and he was selected as the head of the Liberal Party of Canada by the active members of the Liberal Party of Canada.

Fred C Dobbs II said:
...whose reputation rests on his going Blackface to public events and wearing inappropriate costumes while visiting a foreign country.
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Quite right, provided that you totally ignore the fact that he actually had to work his way up the ranks of the Liberal party and that doing so requires that you exhibit your qualities of intelligence and leadership.

Fred C Dobbs II said:
He's the joke who heads up the International Cultural Appropriation Commission.
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I'm not really going to differ with you on "cultural appropriation" (a term originated in the United States of America).

Fred C Dobbs II said:
A canadian compromise who couldn't decide which gender their leader should be.
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Really? I rather suspect that Canada's ONCE married and devout chUrch goer Prime Minister is somewhat surer of his gender than a national leader who has to (essentially) purchase trophy wives.

Fred C Dobbs II said:
Sending medical supplies to China was not a "positive, praise-worthy move". It was idiotic and should be investigated, with names being named and those responsible held accountable.
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Please let me know how your campaign to have the Trump administration investigated, the names of those in the Trump Administrationresponsible being publicly released, and those in the Trump administration who were responsible being held responsible comes along.
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
How can anyone respond to your post about syphilis and whatever? Make a valid point, based on facts, and I'll happily respond.
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I'll take a stab at it.

In 2016 the American electorate was offered a choice between

  1. a probably over aged unsuitable person (but one whose support for their chosen political party and its platform had been consistent for decades) who DID had the training and skills for the job of President of the United States of America;
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    and
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  2. a probably over aged unsuitable person (but one whose support for their chosen political party and its political platform was based solely on whether or not they might win the nomination in that political party [and which support was about as stable as a willow in a hurricane]) who DID NOT have the training and skills for the job of President of the United States of America.

Due to the operation of the laws of the United States of America, and even though more Americans chose Option 1 than chose Option 2 the American people elected Option 2 as the President of the United States of America.
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Fred C Dobbs II said:
Why not familiarize yourself with the thread before asking goofy, and unrelated, questions? The post you're responding to mentions Donald Trump. Can you not see that?
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Fred C Dobbs II said:
So did Australia. Australia was drained of masks for China | Chronicle Inside Australian factory packed with coronavirus supplies being sent to CHINA | Daily Mail Online

But who do the insular and insecure Canadians focus on? Donald Trump! Is there never any sense of embarrassment among the Canadian leftists?
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also mentions Canada, Australia, COBID-19, China, medical supplies, and other things.

You are the one who is complaining because non-Chinese governments sent humanitarian aid to China in response to COVID-19. I am not complaining about the US government sending humanitarian aid to China in response to COVID-19 (especially not when America's foremost medical expert knew that the whole thing was vastly exaggerated and that there was absolutely no possible threat to the United States of America).

Since the US government also sent humanitarian aid to China in response to COVID-19, and since you hold that it was a shameful thing for the US government to send desperately needed humanitarian aid to China in response to COVID-19 when any normal, rational, reasonably well educated person could clearly see how much of an existential threat it posed to the United States of America, please let me know how your campaign to have the Trump administration investigated, the names of those in the Trump Administration responsible being publicly released, and those in the Trump administration who were responsible being held responsible comes along.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
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also mentions Canada, Australia, COBID-19, China, medical supplies, and other things.

You are the one who is complaining because non-Chinese governments sent humanitarian aid to China in response to COVID-19. I am not complaining about the US government sending humanitarian aid to China in response to COVID-19 (especially not when America's foremost medical expert knew that the whole thing was vastly exaggerated and that there was absolutely no possible threat to the United States of America).

Since the US government also sent humanitarian aid to China in response to COVID-19, and since you hold that it was a shameful thing for the US government to send desperately needed humanitarian aid to China in response to COVID-19 when any normal, rational, reasonably well educated person could clearly see how much of an existential threat it posed to the United States of America, please let me know how your campaign to have the Trump administration investigated, the names of those in the Trump Administration responsible being publicly released, and those in the Trump administration who were responsible being held responsible comes along.
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Nope. Not acceptable facts. You need to present different facts if you want Fred to respond. Fred doesn't respond to facts he hasn't responded to already. It's simple really, Fred has his rebuttals in hand organized, prioritized, alphabetized and colour-coded and if you present wrong facts- sorry, I mean inappropriate facts, he'll kindly inform you that you have given him nothing he can discuss.

And besides, the USA has no business being proactive in a foreign commie slant-eyed country. Especially one hovering over the big seat at the head of the table.
 
Felis Leo said:
I do not know what your thought on this is, but I believe that the best time to face down Fascist China is now. Our dependency on using them as our factory must end and it might as well be at this nadir in our countries' relationship.
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let's please fight one war at a time. We shouldn;t be kissing or kicking anyones ass while we are trying to get control of this virus.

Once the dust has settled, there will be plenty of time to discuss strategic health storage and supplier/supplier chains.

ANy company/s 100% sources from a country, INCLUDING OURS, needs to reevaluate their risk equations.
 
Grand Mal said:
Nope. Not acceptable facts. You need to present different facts if you want Fred to respond. Fred doesn't respond to facts he hasn't responded to already. It's simple really, Fred has his rebuttals in hand organized, prioritized, alphabetized and colour-coded and if you present wrong facts- sorry, I mean inappropriate facts, he'll kindly inform you that you have given him nothing he can discuss.

And besides, the USA has no business being proactive in a foreign commie slant-eyed country. Especially one hovering over the big seat at the head of the table.
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You may have a point. Some people will simply refuse to admit that they posted what they actually posted.

Mind you, "Fred" does have the germ of a good idea.

As soon as he announces the formation of his

"Patriotic, Right-thinking, Patriotic, Hard working, Patriotic, Honest, Patriotic, Real, Patriotic, True, Patriotic, Conservative, Patriotic, Christian, Patriotic, White, Patriotic, American, Patriotic, Patriot's Committee To Investigate The Treacherously Treasonous Anonymous Sending Of Desperately Needed By Americans Like Me Medical Aid To China At The Known Incredibly High Risk To The Lives Of Americans Like Me"
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that will investigate and punish the guilty, I will announce the formation of my

"Canadian Committee To Acknowledge The Care, Concern, And Compassion Of Those Who Didn't Make JUGE Public Relations Statements When The Provided Desperately Needed Medical Aid For Those Suffering From COVID-19"
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that will honour their anonymous good deed.
 
charliebrown said:
let's please fight one war at a time. We shouldn;t be kissing or kicking anyones ass while we are trying to get control of this virus.
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You REALLY don't pay any attention to how the politics game is played in the US.

charliebrown said:
Once the dust has settled, there will be plenty of time to discuss strategic health storage and supplier/supplier chains.
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That will only be undertaken when the people who deliberately created the shortage admit that they are traitors and voluntarily turn themselves in to be shot like all traitors should be. For the "Republicans" (whatever that means) that means 100% of the "Democrats" (whatever that means) and for the "Democrats" (whatever that means) that means 100% of the "Republicans" (whatever that means).

charliebrown said:
ANy company/s 100% sources from a country, INCLUDING OURS, needs to reevaluate their risk equations.
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That's a good point and one that I have been attempting to get Canadians to pay attention to for decades.
 
joko104 said:
There is no reason to believe any claims by the Chinese government - none.
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I agree with that, and the evidence supports it.

On the other hand, evrewunknoz that so-called -"2,702"- "7,406" is pure fake news put out by the lying, liberal, left-wing, socialist, commie, pinkos who are trying to overturn the results of the 2016 elections so that they can impose a **S*O*C*I*A*L*I*S*T** **D*I*C*T*A*T*O*R*S*H*I*P** (where abortion is compulsory and the only form of marriage that is allowed would be "same-sex, interracial, marriage") - right?

BTW, the updated figures (as of 0001 Z 04 APR 2002) are

COUNTRYTOTAL CASES
(A)		TOTAL DEATHS
(B)		CASES PER
1,000,000		DEATHS PER
1,000,000		MORTALITY RATE
(B)/(A)		TESTS PER
1,000,000
CHINA
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81,639

3,326

57

2

0.0407

UNKOWN
USA 277,607 7,406 841 22 0.02674,097
CANADA 12,549 2083326 0.01668,021

NOTE – Chinese figures are _NOT_ reliable at this time.

The fact that the Chinese are reported to be thinking about "denying" the US something that doesn't exist is just another horrendously terrible action by a horrendously evil commie country. Mr. Trump is leading the world in making sure that the United States of America does everything humanly possible to help every country that claims that it needs so-called "assistance" in dealing with the so-called "COVID-19 Crisis" and is thus showing America's true spirit of concern and compassion - right?
 
Grand Mal said:
Nope. Not acceptable facts. You need to present different facts if you want Fred to respond. Fred doesn't respond to facts he hasn't responded to already. It's simple really, Fred has his rebuttals in hand organized, prioritized, alphabetized and colour-coded and if you present wrong facts- sorry, I mean inappropriate facts, he'll kindly inform you that you have given him nothing he can discuss.

And besides, the USA has no business being proactive in a foreign commie slant-eyed country. Especially one hovering over the big seat at the head of the table.
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I'll happily respond to facts but not the irrational feelings of goofy Canadian leftists. Start talking facts, rather han your feelings about the US President and we can get started. But, as explained earlier, responding to your OTT emotions is not worth my time.

Is it common for Canadians to refer to Chinese people as "slant-eyed"? Are they really that ignorant?
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
I'll happily respond to facts but not the irrational feelings of goofy Canadian leftists. Start talking facts, rather han your feelings about the US President and we can get started. But, as explained earlier, responding to your OTT emotions is not worth my time.
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Yet here you are quoting my reply to someone else.
You guys are a hoot. It's a guaranteed grin every time one of you takes the time to say you don't have time to reply. And a big part of the humour is you just don't get how dumb that looks.
 
Relsdm said:
The US has allowed our medical drug production to be outsourced to a level that threatens availability.

China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs | Fox News

This has been known for some time and was pointed out during swine flu outbreak, yet nothing has been done.
Start at 3:44 point
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I thought they aren't proven to work just yet. Have we heard of a study that indicates anything factual?
My other question is, why would they withhold drugs but send ventilators and masks?
 
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