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    Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Here we go again... This time it's about wedding invitations.

    As with the Colorado baker, I agree with this decision. The constitution supersedes any state law.


    Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    A Phoenix ordinance that protects lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people from discrimination cannot be used to force artists to create custom wedding invitations for same-sex couples, the Arizona Supreme Court ruled Monday.

    The high court's decision overturns multiple lower-court decisions that protected the portion of Phoenix's nondiscrimination ordinance that applies to the LGBTQ community.

    An attorney for Phoenix insisted that the ruling was narrow and did not strike down the city law. Rather, the court ruled that "one company" could refuse to make "one type of product" for LGBTQ couples, he said.

    "Today's decision is not a win, but it is not a loss. It means we will continue to have a debate over equality in this community," Mayor Kate Gallego said.
    Arizona Supreme Court rules on Phoenix LGBTQ wedding invitation case
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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Here we go again... This time it's about wedding invitations.

    As with the Colorado baker, I agree with this decision. The constitution succeeds any state law.



    Arizona Supreme Court rules on Phoenix LGBTQ wedding invitation case
    This would be very different than any of the other cases if it involves the creation of custom products and/or services. Of course a business owner has a right to say they aren’t going to create an entirely new product they don’t otherwise sell. They just don’t have a right to refuse the same product or service they sell to everyone else.

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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    .....good
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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Here we go again... This time it's about wedding invitations.

    As with the Colorado baker, I agree with this decision. The constitution succeeds any state law.



    Arizona Supreme Court rules on Phoenix LGBTQ wedding invitation case
    I admit I didn't read the article, but I'm assuming this will be appealed all the way to the trump Supreme Court -

    where the law will be ratified
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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    .....good
    Because gay people are yucky, right, Love?
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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Here we go again... This time it's about wedding invitations.

    As with the Colorado baker, I agree with this decision. The constitution succeeds any state law.



    Arizona Supreme Court rules on Phoenix LGBTQ wedding invitation case
    Good to see that the courts ruled in favor of artistic businesses.
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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by lurchadams View Post
    Because gay people are yucky, right, Love?
    They are? I am all for things like " no shoes, no shirt, _______, no service. It is a free country after all. If one business doesn't offer what one wants, go to another, instead of being a fascist about it.
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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Don't believe in free speech protections for artistic and religiou business owners?

    This case has nothing to do with Gay people being yucky. There are plenty of other calligraphy companies that are willing to do their wedding invites.

    Put the bigot card back in your pocket. It won't work here.
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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Silly bastards...there are 4.2 MILLION people in the Phoenix metro area...what...they couldn't find one other person that wanted their business? Maybe an entrepreneur that happened to be gay that could use the work?

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    Re: Phoenix artists don't have to make LGBTQ wedding invitations, Arizona Supreme Court rules

    Short of required services like electricity, heat, water, ect people should be allowed to refuse service to anyone. Wedding invitations are not a necessity. There are countless vendors who will gladly fill this order. I don't feel like this couple is being deprived of anything.

    I don't agree with the business decision, but a private business should be free to make their own decisions, no matter how stupid. It is unfortunate these people still exist but the court ruling is correct IMO.

    I would feel the same if an atheist card maker refused to make cards for a baptism. Or if a private business choose to only choose to do business with people in the LGBTQ community. It is their choice.
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